So was wondering, as of now I suppose it's all just speculation, but is there reason to believe that with this alleged reprint, there will be some sort of indication on the cards it's from a reprint? My brother was concerned about it as a collector, I told him there probably will not be anything different.

Thoughts?

I don't think they should. Changing the wording on cards shouldn't be done as part of a reprint.

36 minutes ago, Amanal said:

I don't think they should. Changing the wording on cards shouldn't be done as part of a reprint.

I don't think he's talking about errata or ability changes, but rather something that would indicate the print run. Decipher's SWCCG did this back in the day by changing the card border from black to white.

I doubt there will be any differences. FFG can't keep up with the players. They're probably not going to put extra effort into pleasing the (smaller) collector community right now.

Oh I hated those white borders!

I told him the same thing, that they probably wouldn't bother. From my understanding it's a one and done thing, they are probably spending their time finishing Spirits and working on the next part.

All the same, he's started purchasing singles to round out the full set...

3 minutes ago, hobomagic said:

I told him the same thing, that they probably wouldn't bother. From my understanding it's a one and done thing, they are probably spending their time finishing Spirits and working on the next part.

All the same, he's started purchasing singles to round out the full set...

Collectors are odd creatures. If he wants to buy singles, tell him to go for it. He might want to get them soon though, you know, since the reprints are probably going to be identical and reprint singles will look just like first run singles.

7 hours ago, Ywingscum said:

Oh I hated those white borders!

That was a reminder that I failed getting into the star wars card game earlier. Not only that, but the pictures and stats were different from white to black as well. Uh oh, my cat seems to be eating one of my SoR dice....

The pictures and stats from black to white border for the old Decipher CCG were identical.

Highly doubt it, as far as I am away FFG don't make differences like that on any of their other products.

15 minutes ago, gokubb said:

The pictures and stats from black to white border for the old Decipher CCG were identical.

Hrm, I don't remember this, then again that was early middle school.

They had released common versions of the rares in a box set I believe. So there was like a weaker version of Vader with white border. But I think that was in a special box.

Edit:Decipher Ccg I'm talking about.

Those were completely different cards than the ones that came out of packs. Those were from a 2-player introductory game. The limited/unlimited versions of all the cards were consistent in game stats/text and picture.

I highly doubt FFG follows any similar model. They seem to be focused on gameplay rather than collectibility.

One-and-done print runs are more than enough for collectors. I hope they never do anything else.

3 hours ago, gokubb said:

Those were completely different cards than the ones that came out of packs. Those were from a 2-player introductory game. The limited/unlimited versions of all the cards were consistent in game stats/text and picture.

I highly doubt FFG follows any similar model. They seem to be focused on gameplay rather than collectibility.

Yes that was it. It's been a long time haha

SoR had larger symbols for the dice than AW, so I could reasonably see that as something they do in the new print run.

I bet they're exactly the same. FFG doesn't seem to do the normal CCG collector stuff. If they wanted a regular CCG, they'd have had no dice in here (or had us use regular, store-bought d6's) so that the packs are flat, cheap, and can be shipped around more easily (like Magic or Pokemon).

All I'm worried about is power creep - I have a bad feeling that all the future cards will be so good that my crime lords and force throws will end up in the spokes of my bike... because that's definitely what FFG has done to the X-Wing minis game! Just being cynical though... I'm betting FFG is learning, and I'm probably still gonna buy plenty of cards in the reprint!

This is an absolutely valid question for die-hard collectors and not a mere minutia that can be overlooked.

As a first time posting here on the forum, I am not sure whether FFG developers see our posting, but Destiny as a collectible card game, it is tentamount to know whether the card will be exactly the same as the initial release or it has a graphical difference that connotes that this is a "second edition" of the Awakens cards.

Although it is a game, there are many who collects them and consider them as an investment piece. As such, the reprint and massive increase in the card production/supply has an adverse impact on the cards value. Other notable game producers did try to differentiate the reprints by having different graphics or making the border white.

Could FFG folks let us know whether such change will be made? It is dishertening to know that our cards' value will plummet due to overproduction.

37 minutes ago, The_Antiquarian said:

This is an absolutely valid question for die-hard collectors and not a mere minutia that can be overlooked.

As a first time posting here on the forum, I am not sure whether FFG developers see our posting, but Destiny as a collectible card game, it is tentamount to know whether the card will be exactly the same as the initial release or it has a graphical difference that connotes that this is a "second edition" of the Awakens cards.

Although it is a game, there are many who collects them and consider them as an investment piece. As such, the reprint and massive increase in the card production/supply has an adverse impact on the cards value. Other notable game producers did try to differentiate the reprints by having different graphics or making the border white.

Could FFG folks let us know whether such change will be made? It is dishertening to know that our cards' value will plummet due to overproduction.

Though I genuinely understand where you're coming from, please don’t consider the rest of my comments as directed specifically at you.

Collectors are such a small section of the market that FFG should actively avoid pandering to this early in the games life, especially with the supply issues they have had.

As you say its an investment, and investment always carries a risk of depreciation due to several factors. Overprinting would be one but demand for this game is such that its virtually impossible for them to print enough product at this stage for the actual demand.

Do you know what else depreciates cards? Power creep and obsolescence. Should collectors be demanding that FFG give them forewarning of future cards that are more powerful than existing cards so that you can sell off your investment cards before their value tanks?

Realistically at this stage of the games life they want to get more product out there, and hers the kicker, its actually GOOD for collectors. This game hasn’t yet hit critical mass for players, if it were to stop being printed tomorrow virtually all players would move on due to lack of product and lack of people to play with and virtually all the stock for the game would be worthless in a monetary sense. Give it several more years with sufficient product out there and the game will start to carry itself.

Only at that point should FFG consider the collector element, because right now they need to build the player base.

1 hour ago, Mace Windu said:

Though I genuinely understand where you're coming from, please don’t consider the rest of my comments as directed specifically at you.

Collectors are such a small section of the market that FFG should actively avoid pandering to this early in the games life, especially with the supply issues they have had.

As you say its an investment, and investment always carries a risk of depreciation due to several factors. Overprinting would be one but demand for this game is such that its virtually impossible for them to print enough product at this stage for the actual demand.

Do you know what else depreciates cards? Power creep and obsolescence. Should collectors be demanding that FFG give them forewarning of future cards that are more powerful than existing cards so that you can sell off your investment cards before their value tanks?

Realistically at this stage of the games life they want to get more product out there, and hers the kicker, its actually GOOD for collectors. This game hasn’t yet hit critical mass for players, if it were to stop being printed tomorrow virtually all players would move on due to lack of product and lack of people to play with and virtually all the stock for the game would be worthless in a monetary sense. Give it several more years with sufficient product out there and the game will start to carry itself.

Only at that point should FFG consider the collector element, because right now they need to build the player base.

You are absolutely right. I am just asking for a subtle difference. Something along the lines of simple date changes, or etc.

You are definitely right about FFG being more attentive to the needs of growth in player base, but it wouldn't hurt to give subtle difference to the cards not only for collectors to differentiate between the first and the reprint, but also for the historicity purpose as well.

5 minutes ago, The_Antiquarian said:

You are absolutely right. I am just asking for a subtle difference. Something along the lines of simple date changes, or etc.

You are definitely right about FFG being more attentive to the needs of growth in player base, but it wouldn't hurt to give subtle difference to the cards not only for collectors to differentiate between the first and the reprint, but also for the historicity purpose as well.

I suspect that the urgency with which the second print run of Awakenings was ordered due to the mammoth lead time on this particular product (6+ months it seems) would have meant they didn't spend any time modifying the face of the cards even a little.

Having said that even with the additional print run the supply of awakenings will be swallowed up pretty quickly.

Also depending on what rumours you believe there will be several reprints from Awakenings in the core set at the end of the year, what that means for card values from awakenings I'm not sure but its quite likely none the less.

The number print runs is crucial indetermining the values of any collectibles with limited runs or prints. Although we do not know how many are in prints for the Awakens, I am sure more reprints of exact same cards will in someway, adversely affect the value of the cards.

So venerable FFG, please! Are we able to identify initial runs from reprints?

Since there are no erratas right now, I wouldn't see them looking any different

1 hour ago, Rogue 4 said:

Since there are no erratas right now, I wouldn't see them looking any different

I assume if FFG decides to make any changes to identify reprints, they will only make a slight graphical change vs. making any erratas.

I'd love to see a different border for the reprints but doubt it will happen. I'd love them to fix the bad text on rebel trooper but probably won't happen either.