Is there any situation where Shyla Varad could whip one figure (not attack) and then perform her regular attack on a different figure?

On Jabba's Palace, lets say she starts her activation adjacent to one hostile figure and a neutral token (Rancor Pit), with another hostile figure 1-3 spaces away. If Shyla used Mandalorian Whip to move the further figure to the neutral token (forcing the figure to fall into the Rancor Pit), would she be unable to complete the second half of her rule ("Then, perform an attack targeting that figure")? Without performing that attack from the special action, would she be allowed to perform her regular attack on the adjacent hostile figure?

When Shyla performs Mandalorian Whip, the chosen figure must be pushed adjacent to her so that she would be able to perform the attack on the pushed figure. The attack is not optional, so she must perform the attack if able. The attack still isn't a requirement to use the ability.

If the figure is not there to be attacked, then the attack cannot be performed. Here a mission rule would relocate the figure when the figure enters the space adjacent to Shyla. The attack is skipped because there is no valid target (the pushed figure). I would see this as valid.

She could then spend an Attack action to attack normally.

It seems like it will be a very fringe case, but I wasn't sure if you lost the ability to take a regular attack just by declaring a special action that includes an attack, even if you don't get to perform that attack for some reason. Thanks for the clarification!

Oh, I have apparently not thought about the mercenary non-hero Shyla. But anyway, an action that didn't perform an attack probably is not considered an action containing an attack, but that only applies after the fact.

A Nexu could use Pounce, but not perform the attack, and then perform the Attack action. But the other way around is shady, because the potential to attack exists in Pounce.

See https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1708229/mandalorian-whip

So is the situation with the Rancor Pit a fringe example where this is applicable; to perform a special attack that included an attack, be unable to attack the target, then use your regular attack? Or are you saying it cannot apply in Skirmish at all?

When talking about the attack action restriction, it of course applies to skirmish as well as non-heroes in campaign.

For non-heroes the deciding factor is that the action did not in actuality allow the non-hero to perform an attack. So, performing an action that contains an attack is still possible during the same activation. See the linked thread for more discussion.

I assume this could happen on say.. the first mission of JR. If Shyla whips a figure within 3 but there is impassable terrain (non mobile figure) then it may not be able to be put adjacent to Shyla

Shyla must be able to push the figure adjacent to herself. If she can't do it, she can't perform any part of the push. And if she can't, then she loses the attack, and thus she would not use the Mandalorian Whip in the first place.

I thought you execute as much of the ability as possible?

target within 3 space and LOS

push 3 spaces, to adjacent

perform an attack

The ability is "Push that figure upto 3 spaces to a space adjacent to you." No commas, just one sentence.

If Shyla cannot push that figure to an adjacent space, is she then automatically allowed to push the figure the other way and not towards her?

I am pretty certain that the intent of the wording is to prevent that kind of use. (Unfortunately there is no space on the skirmish card for a longer explanation, and the hero sheet uses the same wording.)

You are right, the push part is all in 1 sentence.

so you could target a figure within 3 spaces and LOS (first sentence). But can't push unless you can get it adjacent. Finally perform a melee attack vs that figure (likely void since it's not in range)

On ‎4‎/‎4‎/‎2017 at 10:58 AM, frotes said:

I assume this could happen on say.. the first mission of JR. If Shyla whips a figure within 3 but there is impassable terrain (non mobile figure) then it may not be able to be put adjacent to Shyla

Impassible terrain doesn't block adjacency does it? RRG:

Two spaces that share only an edge that is a wall, blocking terrain, or a door are not adjacent.

Impassable terrain space and edge only prevents figures (without mobile or massive) moving into or through. (Push is a form of movement, and also mentioned explicitly.)

I think the example setup was imagining the impassable edge one space away from Shyla so the figure would not be adjacent. But the wording prevents using the push in that case.