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I didn't expect to see the A Wing right down at the bottom, but I guess they get crunched by Sabine K Wings just as much as other aces.

And man, if this doesn't show that jumpmasters are fscking broken I don't know what will.

How are the rankings calculated?

Does 'X-wing' need to be replaced with 'Biggs' or am I just being cynical?

5 minutes ago, FlipmodeSH said:

Does 'X-wing' need to be replaced with 'Biggs' or am I just being cynical?

ALmost certainly given that attack shuttle and ghost are nearby.

What surprises me is that attack shuttle is higher than ghost, which presumably means that more people are using shuttles without ghosts than ghosts without shuttles o_O

A-wing at 40 probably makes Ryan Farmer sad. Heck it makes me sad.

I´d like to hear those players´ comments who said that nerfing Palpatine doesn´t have that much of an impact, that he´s still good compared to the points you pay. And how many threads we have had claiming that Rebels are underdogs and Imperials OP?

Please do share your thoughts again.

It's encouraging to see the TIE/sf creep gently up, too - LWF has helped it a lot, but even then, I think it's taken some time for people to get used to how WEIRD a ship it is to fly compared to most.

I know it has for me.

Jumpmasters...

Go TIE/sfs, though! Great to see them picking up some steam.

1 minute ago, Pretty Green said:

I´d like to hear those players´ comments who said that nerfing Palpatine doesn´t have that much of an impact, that he´s still good compared to the points you pay. And how many threads we have had claiming that Rebels are underdogs and Imperials OP?

Please do share your thoughts again.

It has been 10 days. Thats really not a lot of data. All this tells us that in the week after the nerfs players didn't want to risk their 300+$ travel-investments on nerfed cards whose effect they couldn't comprehend, yet.

Is it possible to separate out factions of multi-faction ships?

I think the shuttle's fall is largely to do with Palp but also to do with /x7. Palp got worse but the meta also moved away from ships that he's best with.

When the meta moves back around to suit what he does I think the shuttle's ranking will rebound a bit.

5 minutes ago, thespaceinvader said:

Is it possible to separate out factions of multi-faction ships?

Yes but I'm lazy.

The next step is to run pilot rankings and then co-relate the data for stuff like "Biggs X-Wings" and "Non-Biggs X-Wings". That would also split out factions except for Boba/Kath Firespray.

Biggs/!Biggs and Rebel vs Scum seem the most useful measures.

The reason for asking is that I got confused by the absence of the fifth wave ten ship, then realised it was because it was lumped in with 'TIE FIghter'.

26 minutes ago, Pretty Green said:

I´d like to hear those players´ comments who said that nerfing Palpatine doesn´t have that much of an impact, that he´s still good compared to the points you pay. And how many threads we have had claiming that Rebels are underdogs and Imperials OP?

Please do share your thoughts again.

It's been 5 minutes.

Pretty crazy that A-Wings are even lower than Punishers and that B-Wings are lower than TIE Bombers. You would think at least someone would fly Snapswarms. They do look rather good, especially with OpSpec TIEs in the mix.

Thanks for putting this together.

I think it does paint a very inaccurate picture of what is competitive however.

Examples:

Attack shuttle over the ghost

A-wings at the bottom though making the cut at 2/3 opens

Aggressors in the bottom 5....

Just now, Timathius said:

I think it does paint a very inaccurate picture of what is competitive however.

Because it doesn't even attempt to. It shows us what is being played. The largest amount of data entered here is from 3 (european if memory serves) System Opens. In the week after nerfs. In a region where Jumpmasters are more popular than anywhere else and where Attanni-Boats had been taking off.

I'd also say that as the Lambda was previously glued to the top spots maybe it was time Palpatine took a back seat for a bit.

1 minute ago, Admiral Deathrain said:

Because it doesn't even attempt to. It shows us what is being played. The largest amount of data entered here is from 3 (european if memory serves) System Opens. In the week after nerfs. In a region where Jumpmasters are more popular than anywhere else and where Attanni-Boats had been taking off.

I'm pretty sure that's not true.

It's probably worth noting that the Lambda being less-used doesn't *necessarily* mean that Palp has gone away.

My suspicion is that he will see a lot more use now buffing the offense of the Upsilon and Decimator.

THough I am sad to see the Deci dropping a bit. I guess that's just because TLTs are in the ascendant again. Sigh.

Just now, Admiral Deathrain said:

Because it doesn't even attempt to. It shows us what is being played. The largest amount of data entered here is from 3 (european if memory serves) System Opens. In the week after nerfs. In a region where Jumpmasters are more popular than anywhere else and where Attanni-Boats had been taking off.

2/3 of the opens were in the US post nerf. Also I wasn't saying anything about the jump. I 100% agree it is the most competitive ship in the game currently.

But when you title something "ships Ranking" kinda makes it seem that you are ranking the ships in terms of competitiveness. Not saying that was the goal or anything. Just that it is what could be interpreted.

32 minutes ago, Timathius said:

Thanks for putting this together.

I think it does paint a very inaccurate picture of what is competitive however.

Examples:

Attack shuttle over the ghost

A-wings at the bottom though making the cut at 2/3 opens

Aggressors in the bottom 5....

Attack Shuttle over Ghost is 100% correct and very informative! It means the Ghost's results without the shuttle are worse than with it, this dragging the Ghosts average score down.

Aggressors are poor, I think their position is fair. The A-Wing result I think may be a data flaw in meta-wing as they come out with a negative percentile performance, which can't be right. @haslo may know more. They've been constantly low-ranked though... could be right!

1 minute ago, Timathius said:

2/3 of the opens were in the US post nerf. Also I wasn't saying anything about the jump. I 100% agree it is the most competitive ship in the game currently.

But when you title something "ships Ranking" kinda makes it seem that you are ranking the ships in terms of competitiveness. Not saying that was the goal or anything. Just that it is what could be interpreted.

Entirely the goal.

Just now, Stay On The Leader said:

Entirely the goal.

That is what I thought, if that's the case then going to have to go ahead and disagree with the findings. I understand they are based on LJ but it does paint a very imbalanced picture.

I also, just checked and Hoth only has 3 lists entered. and the only one in the top 10 entered has 3 crack A-Wings.

Ok. All I can do is present the results from thousands of tournaments but you may know better.