More strategy threads during down times

By Blail Blerg, in Star Wars: Armada

I know that our community is a little small, without proper flame-bait the forum can be kinda quiet. However, I'm asking, can we try and fill the gaps with more strategy threads. Right now, I think we are back to the point where the entire first half the page is non-strategy related discussion. Either fluff, tournament signups or ranting (or podcasts, which kinda count as strategy, but aren't being discussed a lot.

Let's make this forum less clique-y and more about sharing information relevant to the game and the community at large. One of the things I don't like about the forum is that generally there is not as much strategy discussion to go around and sharing of information and strong builds and strong ideas. Some good players also just keep their stuff secret, which is human nature for competition, but saddening for the nurturing of the game. Some of its hidden in sub forums also (which is fine), but these are probably the most relevant possible topics that could benefit the community at large.

I agree,

38 minutes ago, Blail Blerg said:

One of the things I don't like about the forum is that generally there is not as much strategy discussion to go around and sharing of information and strong builds and strong ideas. Some good players also just keep their stuff secret, which is human nature for competition, but saddening for the nurturing of the game.

This especially.
Would be nice to see more strategy talk on the forums, it would only improve everyones overall game.

It's generally not worth writing out detailed strategy threads on the forum. The churn is too great and something you spent hours writing will vanish in a week at the most. That's why most of the best strategy articles are on blogs.

I agree with Snip. I've seen some very long, well thought posts that generate no discussion. And then you get jokers like me who tell everyone to make up acronyms and people want to participate. I've even tried to write them to no avail, so I stopped.

It's hard to write a strategy about Armada. There are so many variables, and you inevitably get those people that say your idea doesn't work if you have counter X. Then a circle jerk starts where everyone throws out theoretical counters to counter the counter, and the initial thought is gone.

A better approach would be to write about a specific fleet, but the same thing happens. "Rieekan aces kills you. You have no anti-squad play." or "How to you deal with Demo and Admo? What about an ISD? What's your main source of damage? What if someone bids 20 points and makes you go second?" Or people say the list is bad and tell you to put in the thing that they play. "Paragon isn't great because it's conditional. Just get Admo instead."

Idk, it's hard to generate a discussion with so many people, where anyone can read it without pissing people off. If you don't have a point to argue, the post becomes a bulletin board that people just read and have nothing to say about it.

I also have a pretty short attention span for the forums and don't like reading a wall of text, especially if I can't find the main points easily.

24 minutes ago, Snipafist said:

It's generally not worth writing out detailed strategy threads on the forum. The churn is too great and something you spent hours writing will vanish in a week at the most. That's why most of the best strategy articles are on blogs.

As one who's been blogging for awhile a great way to encourage more strategy articles is to comment on what's out there.

I reaaly like it when people take the time to ask for clarification or more info about something I wrote. It's shows they cared enough to ask more.

Now, discussions in the comments section are great, but they can also be brought here. Recently some dug up a thread about an old formation flying blog post of mine and that set off a nice discussion. That was cool.

My suggestion is to find your favorite blog post and post a link with some of your thoughts. See if anyone else will join the conversation.

32 minutes ago, Undeadguy said:

I also have a pretty short attention span for the forums and don't like reading a wall of text, especially if I can't find the main points easily.

Half my jokes are just in there as islands in the sea of text. I need pics or jokes in there myself to keep from getting bogged down in "head up my own butt analysis." Reading a whole bunch of my own strategy about Armada and basic ships/commanders? Dry. Fancy pictures and Futurama references? Just what the Internet wanted!

Just now, geek19 said:

Half my jokes are just in there as islands in the sea of text. I need pics or jokes in there myself to keep from getting bogged down in "head up my own butt analysis." Reading a whole bunch of my own strategy about Armada and basic ships/commanders? Dry. Fancy pictures and Futurama references? Just what the Internet wanted!

This will sound arrogant, but part of the reason is because I already understand the topic and don't need someone to reinforce the points, so I don't bother reading. I don't enjoy reading about things I already know. I'll read the intro, but if I deem it's written for a new player, I don't want to read it. That said, the content in a lot of posts is good and insightful. I'm just not interested.

2 minutes ago, Undeadguy said:

This will sound arrogant, but part of the reason is because I already understand the topic and don't need someone to reinforce the points, so I don't bother reading. I don't enjoy reading about things I already know. I'll read the intro, but if I deem it's written for a new player, I don't want to read it. That said, the content in a lot of posts is good and insightful. I'm just not interested.

I don't mind. I will say that the benefit of writing this all up is that I get to ACTUALLY learn new things and see different combinations and ways of trying out ships. I actually fell back in love with the assault frigate after writing my last article haha, and am debating trying out some combinations with it.

I agree with most of the replies here (despite my recent wall of text). A blog would have made that wall of text much easier to organize, especially when it came to pictures.

I just don't have a blog, and I don't particularly care to start one. Though if I did, it would have a very military/doctrinal theme to it. The old FMs and other related documents actually offer fantastic thinking models for miniatures games, especially when it comes to EA Dev.

Well get your arse in gear and write some then Blail.

This pisses me off. The solution isnt to discuss what we could do. Thats mindless beaurocracy.

Just do it.

I wrote some in the past few months. Thanks for your negativity.

Be the change you want to see in the world.

My only complaint about the transition to serious tactical posts is that they tend to be the equivalent of hardtack:

Dry, dense, and hard to get through. Even if you're starving.

Knowledge is good, but when all you want is a light read and some entertainment... Woof! But I seriously am glad people are doing the legwork for those who'd like to get better. I mean, we could be screaming Armada is dead way more. :ph34r: :lol:

Made a thread to support this ;)

20 hours ago, Snipafist said:

It's generally not worth writing out detailed strategy threads on the forum. The churn is too great and something you spent hours writing will vanish in a week at the most. That's why most of the best strategy articles are on blogs.

Is there a good list or thread out there for strategy blogs to read?

17 minutes ago, Hydralisk101 said:

Is there a good list or thread out there for strategy blogs to read?

At this point I only know of two that are updated with any regularity due to some recent "blog mergers" which has a 3-man team working on Steel Squadron now (Biggs, shmitty, and Truthiness, I believe).

Steel Squadron and Cannot Get Your Ship Out (which @geek19 and I work together on).

51 minutes ago, Hydralisk101 said:

Is there a good list or thread out there for strategy blogs to read?

People were unwilling to support a complication thread either.

32 minutes ago, Blail Blerg said:

People were unwilling to support a complication thread either.

Compilation?

49 minutes ago, Blail Blerg said:

People were unwilling to support a complication thread either.

That's a shame, a pinned post with resources such as that would a great addition to our forums. One stop shopping for new and experienced players alike, plus encourages community support! Having played X-Wing too, it seems FFG really thrives with all of the channels, blogs and other fan-made projects.

poor Blail, is it me or people are hard on him? Anyway, I agree with the general feeling. I think Blail what you want is what you get in the battle report sub forum. I think if that sub forum didn't exist, your Armada strategy itch would be scratched here.

But, I think it's nice to talk strategy and whatnot, especially about stuff people don't use often! The redemption thread is a good example of what I'd like to see more of.

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19 hours ago, Ginkapo said:

Just do it.

<insert Shia leBeouf meme here>

For me, just watching the game of WWPDSteven on Youtube is enough for looking at new strategy and combo.

Just so entertaining and the comments during the play so funny :)

I find the community funny in this regard.

We cry out for content like strategy threads to be made.

People will go to the effort to make blogs, articles, podcasts and videos.

And the thread will die into obscurity within the first hour in favour of next wave prediction threads, obligatory squadrons/demo is OP thread, what would you add to the game threads etc

6 hours ago, Irokenics said:

the thread will die into obscurity within the first hour in favour of next wave prediction threads

This. It seems like there's a new one every week, or somebody brings up an old one. And they pick up steam fast.

12 hours ago, Madaghmire said:

Compilation?