So....looks really solid all around, heck, maybe great; it'll have certainly a better dial than our struggling Punisher. Just another better ordinance carrier to punch actual "Bombers" further down the food chain? What the **** FFG??

well, this one is atleast a bomber technically.

This costs at least 8 points more than the cheapest TIE Bomber, which, as long as the dial is comparably, isn't too far off the mark. The important bit, though, being that's 8 points' worth of ordnance you can't afford.

5 minutes ago, ObiWonka said:

This costs at least 8 points more than the cheapest TIE Bomber, which, as long as the dial is comparably, isn't too far off the mark. The important bit, though, being that's 8 points' worth of ordnance you can't afford.

But the stat line is WAAYYY better...and talon rolls?? Droids or Crew??

Looks like a pretty tasty dial since it has a Talon roll. Also has 4 more Hp, a 3 dice primary, and some more slots so yeah. Looks more of a better punisher than a better bomber but that's not really saying much.

T-Rolls. But I stand by what I said.

If this ship isn't better than a TIE bomber, why would you ever bother buying it?

39 minutes ago, Mep said:

If this ship isn't better than a TIE bomber, why would you ever bother buying it?

Well, besides the fact that, y'know, it's for Scum and one unique pilot for Rebels.

Also yeah, no joke it's got better stats than the TIE Bomber, the H-6 is grossly over-engineered. The original design is from the TPM era and was so over-equipped and costly (and was like WW1 and 2 heavy bombers it needed like 5-6 guys to fly it, the TIE/sa takes 1 man) that Naboo passed on it and Nym was able to fly his custom version that is the Havoc for decades after. Gee, it's almost like the Imperials have a completely different fighter doctrine which has resulted in a carry over into the game mechanics.

That said, other than maybe better maneuverability and, oh my god it has shields (but 1 less hull - despite the fact that the Bomber is ~8-9 meters long and the Havoc is 22 meters long) there's nothing to say it's really "better". It has one more red, and one less AGI. It's a heavy bomber, like the Punisher and the K, comparisons to the Bomber aren't really proper.

It also looks like it has some sort of unique bomb upgrade in the second row of upgrade cards. I see "Bom... Gener...".

Also some sort of system upgrade that looks like it is about "Mines". It also has bomb icons in the text I think.

7 minutes ago, John Rainbow said:

Also some sort of system upgrade that looks like it is about "Mines". It also has bomb icons in the text I think.

I've got a crazy idea for the OP. Stay with me now... what if TIE Punishers had system slots?

Nerf, amirite?

11 minutes ago, John Rainbow said:

Also some sort of system upgrade that looks like it is about "Mines". It also has bomb icons in the text I think.

the system slot looks like it might let a ship drop a bomb somewhere inside the play area at place forces step with some range restriction of some sort

No, but it's a better missile boat than the Assault Gunboat.

So a list of all Bombers in X-wing.

• Firespray-31 ; has the most versatility but cost too much and aux arc doesn't make up for the poor dial
• TIE Bomber ; the original bomber and original munitions point sink. Torpedoes, missiles, and bombs were all too underwhelming to affect meta.
• VT-49 Decimator ; again cost a lot of points but with PWT why waste points on bombs.
• Y-wing; Gives up next to useless <torpedo> slots for next to useless <bomb> slots. No EPT slots except for scum which has a few upgrades to make bombs better if they ever become any good.
• Aggressor ; Seen in pairs but their double cannon shots (not slots) and high agility makes bombs not necessary.
• TIE-Punisher; TIE Bomber's bigger cousin that fixes none of the problems the TIE-Bomber has. More of a mediocre thing does not make it any better. Also no EPT slot.
• K-wing ; The B-17 flying fortress of X-wing. Not only does it have double bomb slot that can be up with EM but PWT/turret slots and a slam for fast movement.
• QuadJumper ; It turns out slow moving helecopters don't make for good bombers. Maybe they should have made a zeppelin GR-75 instead. Of course their track record in WW1 was shot-down by areo-planes.

Also I should mention SabenWren crew the only human that can roll down the passenger window of a space ship to throw out a grenade at people.

• HWK-290- no torpedo slots for EM so one time use only
• B-wing- requires useless modification that is better spent on making torpedoes better
• YTs 1300s and 2400s- missile slot means one time use only
• Attack Shuttle- see HWK-290 but with fewer hit points.
• VCX-100- Better use of her which is naturally as it is the expansion she comes in.
• TIE Fighter- No torpedo slot, nuff said
• ARC-170- a better bomber platform, more like a cheaper Firespray but still has some of the same issues
• U-wing- Sort of like the B-1 with the sweeping wings.

....plus any Rebel ship with a crew slot...

Chimps is better on this ship. First ordnance oriented ship with 3 red primaries!

36 minutes ago, FTS Gecko said:

....plus any Rebel ship with a crew slot...

Edited before the post

but yeah I mentioned them and again not that good for bombers, except maybe the U-wing. So really Rebel scum is insurgents since they are always using dirty tricks such as mines and bombs, too soon?

6 minutes ago, Pewpewpew BOOM said:

Chimps is better on this ship. First ordnance oriented ship with 3 red primaries!

B-Wing says hai.

Just now, FTS Gecko said:

B-Wing says hai.

K, thx bye.

- Firespray 31

To be fair, the Bomber is a name, not a primary role. It's primary role is as a general purpose ordnance delivery ship. Jack of all trades, master of none, but cheap and capable. Several ships mentioned above are better bombers, but few are better missile/torpedo platforms, and none are more cost effective.

2 hours ago, Mep said:

If this ship isn't better than a TIE bomber, why would you ever bother buying it?

Because you fly Scum.
Or Rebels.
Or like the upgrades.
Or the way the ship looks.

Not everything has to be power creep.

Or think it can bring back the triple Deadeye missile boat list ...

5 hours ago, ObiWonka said:

Because you fly Scum.
Or Rebels.
Or like the upgrades.
Or the way the ship looks.

Not everything has to be power creep.

Alex, What are things that make it better than a TIE bomber.

4 hours ago, Mep said:

Alex, What are things that make it better than a TIE bomber.

The 'ordinance' phenomenon is soon to reach the 'rouge' one... Just a personal observation...