38 minutes ago, TheRealStarkiller said:

I thought one can see the fine differences between a modified imperial Gozanti and an original one. If not used as a carrier one does not need the fortified superstructure around the propulsion level.

Imperial Gozantis carry cargo and even ground vehicles under the 'wings', so that scummie version should be able to as well. 4 Scyks would look great slung under the Scum Carrier.

6 hours ago, Kdubb said:

Cool stuff. What is that ship in the top left? Straight up UFO! lol.

I would guess it's the Flarestar Attack Shuttle. They are about the same size as the Millennium Falcon.

Rapier One

The mother ship is actually quite large--about seven times the size of the Gozanti.

Sweet. I hope this leads to getting both the Vaksai and the Minstrel in X-Wing.

Never really liked the Flarestar...only thing about Hondo I didn't like was his pirates flying those things.

Anyone know what type of freighter that is next to the Minstrel?

5 hours ago, Captain Lackwit said:

It is not heavily modded.

The one we see in X-Wing is not the stock variant. There were ~6 Kihraxz variants, this long nosed one being the most common, until the frame was later recognized and repurposed as the Vaksai, which was just a souped up Kihraxz.

Indeed. Though right behind the Vaksai-looking ship in that image is one that looks like our Kihraxz.

1 hour ago, GrimmyV said:

Imperial Gozantis carry cargo and even ground vehicles under the 'wings', so that scummie version should be able to as well.

They don't unless the have the clamps for it. Most of the C-ROCs carry cargo containers on top of their wings instead.

7 hours ago, Budgernaut said:

This is pretty neat! So many familiar Scum ships there.

That thing above the Minstrel-class yacht -- is that a modified Gallofree Yards GS-100 Salvage Ship? It looks like a longer version of the Vulture's Claw , Gha Nachkt's salvage ship in The Clone Wars.

Pretty sure I saw Gha Nachkt in a later panel (although all Trandoshans kind of look the same... is that racist?) so it's not too much of a stretch to say it IS the Vulture's Claw.

38 minutes ago, DarthEnderX said:

Sweet. I hope this leads to getting both the Vaksai and the Minstrel in X-Wing.

Never really liked the Flarestar...only thing about Hondo I didn't like was his pirates flying those things.

Anyone know what type of freighter that is next to the Minstrel?

Indeed. Though right behind the Vaksai-looking ship in that image is one that looks like our Kihraxz.

They don't unless the have the clamps for it. Most of the C-ROCs carry cargo containers on top of their wings instead.

Pretty sure that flaming Gozanti in the pic is not a C-roc.

also Hondo's saucer ship NEEDS to be in this game! It's the ultimate pancake! (I'm sure the Weequay pirates using a flying saucer had nothing to do with Klaatu, Barada or Nikto and their association with the Weequay at Jabba's palace, right?)

2 hours ago, tsondaboy said:

Using a measuring tape and first grade mathematics one can easily prove that FFG made the Tantive IV using the general specification for the CR90 corvette assuming a length of 150 m. Unless of course one wants to argue that the Tantive and Raider are not made in the same scale, since both of them are approximately 33 cm.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/CR90_corvette/Legends

Regardless, if we use the Raider as a point of reference, then the Minstrel-class yacht would only be another 1.5 cm longer than the Raider. Now the entry for the Minstrel-class does not specify if the hull only is 160 m or the total length of the ship from the fore section to the rear tip of the Maneuvering vanes is 160 m. If its the former, then the model with the fins extracted to full length will have to be another 2-3 cm longer and the hull only about the size of the Raider. If its the later then the hull of the ship will actually be shorter than the Raider. So I see no problem either way to fit this on the table in the same scale as the rest of the Epic ships we currently have.

Epic ships are not on the same scale as the rest of the game*, nor are the in scale with one another. Instead they are on a "relative scale", where their size represents their battlefield impact.

*Save the Gozanti and C-ROC.

1 minute ago, Punning Pundit said:

Epic ships are not on the same scale as the rest of the game*, nor are the in scale with one another. Instead they are on a "relative scale", where their size represents their battlefield impact.

*Save the Gozanti and C-ROC.

I knew the Epic ships are not in scale to the rest of the game, but I did not know that they are not in scale with one another. I always assumed all epic are at the same scale.

well the version of the Corellian Corvette we see in RotS is shorter. enough so that Legends called it a "CR-70" model.

2 minutes ago, mithril2098 said:

well the version we see in RotC is shorter. enough so that Legends called it a "CR-70" model.

The 'Tantive' in RotS was a worse CGI screw up than anything else in the prequels. How hard would it have been to copy the original model? And it didn't need to be the same ship anyway, since the one in ANH was Tantive IV we could have seen I, II, III or even V if you wanted to get crazy. Or come up with a new ship altogether since they didn't bother to make a proper CGI model anyway. So yeah.

accidental double post

5 hours ago, GrimmyV said:

The Tantive IV will always be 150m to me since if it was any smaller then the ISD Devastator would be far short of its 1.6km or 1 mile length, based on the amazing opening sequence of ANH.

If you believe this guy:

http://boards.theforce.net/threads/the-star-destroyer-bridges-of-the-original-trilogy.50044307/page-3#post-54213077

1 hour ago, Ironlord said:

If you believe this guy:

http://boards.theforce.net/threads/the-star-destroyer-bridges-of-the-original-trilogy.50044307/page-3#post-54213077

It would appear that the actual length of the Devastator-class varies somewhere between 2,242 and 2,400 meters. But it's pretty obvious that the one mile figure can't possibly apply to Vader's ship in ANH.

then even with a 148.8 m Tantive IV , the Devastator needs to be much more than a mile long.

I will always applaud efforts to use tru-canon footage to determine the sizes and capabilities of ships and weapons in SW, but I also tend to defer to Dr. Curtis Saxton and his corpus of work on most of these matters. There's at least one error in the analysis of the various SDs by 'Lt. Hija', that being the use of the Millenium Falcon as a size reference in relation to the Avenger and other ships since there's a discrepancy between the studio set (built undersized) and the FX models. This can lead to measurements that are too small. Similarly the Blockade Runner seems to not have a set size either but 'fortunately' never had an undersized full studio mock up to muddy the issue, only the interior corridors and such which generally agree with the FX model.

anyway, it's a mess once you start analyzing the granular aspects of SW. That said I am totally for different sizes of SDs in the OT (and R1) since it would explain how easily those two smaller ships at Scarif were dealt with by snub fighters and a corvette. The Devastator being well over a mile long is a welcome revaluation since it was Vader's flag ship after all.

1 hour ago, GrimmyV said:

anyway, it's a mess once you start analyzing the granular aspects of SW. That said I am totally for different sizes of SDs in the OT (and R1) since it would explain how easily those two smaller ships at Scarif were dealt with by snub fighters and a corvette. The Devastator being well over a mile long is a welcome revaluation since it was Vader's flag ship after all.

His theory is that the studio set is not nearly as undersized as Saxton thought it was - and that Rogue One's Falcon (34.52m) is oversized.

Personally I think the EU's decision to keep all ISDs as around the same length, while occasionally problematic in terms of some scenes, mostly keeps things simple. Especially since the two ISDs at Scarif use the same model as the Devastator when it arrives at Scarif.

A 126m Tantive IV inside a 188m bay (length of hangar on a 1600 m Devastator) might not perfectly match the above shot - but I think it's close enough.

6 hours ago, GrimmyV said:

The 'Tantive' in RotS was a worse CGI screw up than anything else in the prequels. How hard would it have been to copy the original model? And it didn't need to be the same ship anyway, since the one in ANH was Tantive IV we could have seen I, II, III or even V if you wanted to get crazy. Or come up with a new ship altogether since they didn't bother to make a proper CGI model anyway. So yeah.

And it got quickly retconned to be the Sundered Heart.

12 minutes ago, RogueLeader42 said:

And it got quickly retconned to be the Sundered Heart.

And in the newcanon, it's now the Tantive III.

30 minutes ago, Ironlord said:

And in the newcanon, it's now the Tantive III.

And the CR70 type is also part of the newcanon now.

So we have the CR90 at 126m and the CR70 at 126m. So the CR70 is now the bigger version...

Had they just stayed with the CR90 - 150m figure...

11 hours ago, Odanan said:

Now FFG needs to release a Kihraxz ace pack with the "Vaksai" miniature (showing the ship had many variations, all called Kihraxz).

Yes! Please, FFG, it's the only thing I've ever wanted!

Is everyone pronouncing Tantive correctly in their head? It's tan -tuh-vee. Say it with me tan -tuh-vee. Good...

Edit to be on topic:

I hope to see something similar to the Scyk for the old scum x-wing. Two titles that either make the ship cheaper but janky or better but more expensive. Vaksai fits into the game very nicely as a title card. Purists may get a little cranky but gameplay before fluff.

2 hours ago, gamblertuba said:

Is everyone pronouncing Tantive correctly in their head? It's tan -tuh-vee. Say it with me tan -tuh-vee. Good...

Nope. Literally have never heard anyone pronounce it that way. It's tan -tive. Just like it's gif , not jif.

13 hours ago, tsondaboy said:

Using a measuring tape and first grade mathematics one can easily prove that FFG made the Tantive IV using the general specification for the CR90 corvette assuming a length of 150 m. Unless of course one wants to argue that the Tantive and Raider are not made in the same scale, since both of them are approximately 33 cm.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/CR90_corvette/Legends

Regardless, if we use the Raider as a point of reference, then the Minstrel-class yacht would only be another 1.5 cm longer than the Raider. Now the entry for the Minstrel-class does not specify if the hull only is 160 m or the total length of the ship from the fore section to the rear tip of the Maneuvering vanes is 160 m. If its the former, then the model with the fins extracted to full length will have to be another 2-3 cm longer and the hull only about the size of the Raider. If its the later then the hull of the ship will actually be shorter than the Raider. So I see no problem either way to fit this on the table in the same scale as the rest of the Epic ships we currently have.

OK...

the scale of the epic ships is "scaled to feel" according to FFG. That's why the Raider and the Tantive IV are both 12" models even tho the raider is actually a larger ship.

What I was getting at is that the Star Jewel is a large enough ship to have separate fore and aft pilot cards like the Raider and CR-90 which is what the next epic scum ship will most likely have to be so that all three factions have access to an epic ship with those qualities...

not sure what you're getting at since its clearly known that all epic ships except the gozanti are"scaled to feel" and not the games normal 1/270.

22 minutes ago, ObiWonka said:

Nope. Literally have never heard anyone pronounce it that way. It's tan -tive. Just like it's gif , not jif.

My sarcasm detector is not functioning properly...

It's somewhere in this video . Not sure on time stamp and cannot check right now. If you want to argue against Pablo Hidalgo and Leland Chee, be my guest. (Apparently, you won't listen to Steve Wilhite about GIF so whatevs)

I know that's the correct pronunciation of Tan -tuh-vee, but I've literally never heard anyone say it that way.

Steve Wilhite is plain and simply wrong .

Also E-wing and U-wing are pronounced exactly the same way...

Maybe now the Kfighter will get some love.

I love the aesthetics of that ship, i have tried to use that thing many many times but good god is it a hot mess... outright terrible dial, squishy, expensive, lack of options AND actions (whats with the no broll or boost natively on its bar??) and the pilot abilities are pretty lousy.

20 minutes ago, Vineheart01 said:

Maybe now the Kfighter will get some love.

I love the aesthetics of that ship, i have tried to use that thing many many times but good god is it a hot mess... outright terrible dial, squishy, expensive, lack of options AND actions (whats with the no broll or boost natively on its bar??) and the pilot abilities are pretty lousy.

It was made to be the Scum X-Wing. But it doesn't even get Astros. So basically FFG shot themselves in the foot, basing it on a frame which already a nebulous all-rounder.