Hi guys! After almost making the cut at Madrid Regional with my "Not-so-sharp Attani List", ( batrep here ), I decided to give it a name, and take the list to the Tatooine Open, to see if it had potential. Last faq had arrived like 10 days befor the Open, and my list remained untouched by the nerf bat, so I guessed it would be a bit stronger.

Reminder of my list:

Palob, Attani, TLT, Dengar, Cloak

Kaa'to Leeachos, Attani, Thread tracers, Chips

Tansarii Point Veteran, Attani, Heavy Scyk Title, HLC

Tansarii Point Veteran, Attani, Heavy Scyk Title, Mangler

Onto the games!

Rd 1: Vs Fernando de Torres de la Cruz, with 4x T70 X-Wings , R2, IA

First game of the day, and I'm facing 4 T70 x wings. They set up for a joust, which is fine by me as I can probably take one out in the first engagement before it fires. If I work well on the "Rule of Eleven", I can take advantage of it.

We march forward and I end up in R2-3 of all his ships, which is great, but my mangler scyk is in R1 of the front 2 T70s (52 and 51) and R2 of the ones in the back, which is not great. (I slightly improved my deployment for the rest of the tournament after this game). So I focus-evade with the mangler scyk and pray.

Kaa'to fires the tracers and everybody TLs one of the front T70s, which is blown up, before having a chance to fire. Nice start for me.

I'm also able to survive with the mangler on 1 hull (direct hit) so It's looking quite good.

Next turn, however, the T70s manage to cause havoc and bump Palob. It's not too bad, as only one T70 will fire at him with no modifiers, but it will be at R1. I'm repositioning so very few shots are fired by my squad. The T70 fires the unmodified R1 shot at

Palob, and gets 3 hits and a crit! Ouch! Palob blanks even with a focus, and he's hanging on 1 hull with the stunned pilot crit. Not good at all.

With the 3 T70s surrounding Palob, and with the awful HWK dial, I'm unable to avoid the block, and Palob bits the dust. My HLsCyk also loses its shield and takes a damage. My opponent loses all the shields on one of the T70s, and another one is on 1 shield. The third one is untouched.

A few rounds later another big moment goes my opponent's way as I'm able to bring down one of the T70s to one hull and no droid with Kaa'to, and the HLsCyk at R1 gets 2 damage through.

If he doesn't evade both shots he'll be dead... Of course he rolls 2 natural evades on 2 dice and not only he's not dead, but he deals the final blow to the HLsCyk. Kaa'to can't do much against 3 T70s...

...and he's finally brought down.

Loss: 100-25

Rd 2: Vs KolirioKolapso with Manaroo/Fenn/Teroch

Opponent's list

Manaroo, Attani, K4, Plasma Torps, chips

Fenn Rau, Attani, Title, Autothrusters

Teroch, Attani, Title, Autothrusters

So after last game I hoped I could do better, or my slim chance of making the cut would evaporate pretty soon. It's not my favorite matchup, and I played my opponent last month in a local store torunament with that same list, (I had Torkil instead of Palob), and lost hard to it. He's a good player, he even traveled to Worlds last year and made it to the 2nd day.

He was a bit upset as he had lost the previous match on the very last roll, and he took initiative without giving it much thought, which later he regretted.

So we had our first shots at R3 and he went after Kaa'to with all his ships, but as I had a focus and had stolen an evade, I was able to only lose one shield. Manaroo lost all four shields.

Next turn Manaroo did a 3 bank to try to block all my ships and TL'd the Mangler scyk with the 4k security droid, and focused (good for me).

Luckily I had seen it coming, and the Mangler Scyk did a 5k, which left him behind Manaroo, and behind both Protectorates. Kaa'to bumped Manaroo, and Palob bumped Kaa'to, but the HLsCyk didn't, so he evaded. Both Protectorates avoided the Mangler Scyk's block, but flew past him. Both focused. Manaroo passed a 3rd focus and the TL to Fenn (perfect, as I was going after Teroch) and received one back. I then stole one of Teroch's 2 focuses with Palob, so Atanni Mindlink triggered, and I got a focus for each of my my ships

Fenn and Teroch fired R2 (yeah) at Kaa'to, who had Focus+Evade, but he bit the dust.

So this time no tracers could be fired, but it turned out I didn't need them! Palob did 2 damage on Teroch, as he couldn't use AT (he was R2 IN arc) and the HLsCyk killed him (No AT's either). The Mangler scyk then went after Manaroo, as Fenn had 4 evade dice and 3 focuses, and did one damage and a shaken pilot crit. Awesome start!

Next round I guessed Manaroo's movement correctly (3 right bank) and Palob hard turned to the right getting away from the R1 doughnut hole to fire the TLT, and the HLsCyk hard turned one to the left, and BR'd to the right to get out of R1 and possibly block Fenn. The Mangler scyk did a 2 straight and was bumped by Fenn, as the block from the HlsCyk was successful. Fenn got only 1 hit on a R1 FIVE (unmodified) dice on the HLsCyk, which I easily evaded, so I could use my focus for the attack. Manaroo exploded.

So it was 3 healthy ships vs Fenn Rau. Could he pull it through?

Fenn couldn't focus, as Palob would steal it, so if he wanted to modify his attack dice he had to go for the TL, and would have no defensive mods.

After a few poor rolls on my opponent's side, I was able to get a crit through, which was damaged sensor array, which, by the time he was able to flip it up, it was too late, and Palob's TLT did the last 2 damage.

Won 100-17

Rd 3: vs Roberto Pérez with Backstabber/Deathfire/OL/Carnor

Carnor Jax, PTL, Title, AT, Targetting computer

OL, Juke, Comms

Backstabber

Deathfire, Cluster Mines, LRS, EM, Flechette torps

Ok so now we're back on the winning track! I didn't like my opponent's list, as Carnor shuts my focus and evades, and OL is a beast in the late game, but I definately had to take Deathfire out in the first engagement as all those bombs and missiles are pretty scary.

I played the Rule Of Eleven right, and managed to bring all the pain into Deathfire at R3 with all my ships. Tracers hit, and TLs were handed out. After the dust had settled, Deathfire was no more. I lost the mangler's shield with a Backstabber shot. Next turn I tried to go for Carnor, doing a 5k with the mangler Scyk to try to get distance. The mangler scyk had been TLd by OL last turn.

My mangler scyk took 2 damage from Backstabber, as I blanked, even with a focus, and stayed on 1 hull. Carnor was too close to my ships so I couldn't use my focuses and my attacks were crippled. Palob stole OL's evade, which proved crucial as she couldn't use Juke. Carnor destroyed my HLsCyk after a R1 shot as I couldn't use my focus. Palob did 2 damage into OL, and the mangler scyk did one more, leaving her on 1 hull.

Next turn OL avoided my Scyk block, and BRd into Palob's R1 doughnut hole to survive the TLT. Backstabber was blocked by the Mangler scyk. We had to call a judge to see if OL had a shot on Palob. Luckily for me, they ruled in my favor.

Carnor boosted to get into Palob's R1 as well, and shut dow my focuses, but ended up having no shot. I had him with the mangler, but elected to take an unmodified shot into a 1 hull OL. I got 2 hits, and she only got one evade, so OL was gone. Palob's TLT left Backstabber o 1 hull.

Palob lasted 1 more round as Carnor got into his tail and killed him at R1 despite being cloaked, and with 8 minutes on the clock, I killed backstabber, to take the lead on points. Carnor was untouched vs a 1 hull mangler scyk and a full health Kaa'to. I just had to survive to win. So I planned my maneuvers as fast as usual, but just waited until he placed his dial to quickly place mine, and the time was called, and last round started. I had blocked Carnor with the scyk and fired 3 TLd dice on Carnor with Kaa'to last turn taking him down to 1 hull, while only losing 1 shield on Kaa'to, so I got greedy, and instead of playing it safe by making Carnor bump me again, I tried to take him out. I did a 5k with the scyk to get distance, and Kaa'to flew away to try to get out of the R1 bubble of pain to give the scyk a focus. It didn't end well as Carnor did a 2 bank and a boost, and ended up R1 of the scyk, who died, netting me my 2nd loss of the day. Awful last turn, throwing away the game, and probably my chances of making the cut to day 2.

Loss: 83-67

Loving the list, the detailed accounts, and the pictures!

I tried to take pics of my game once. They looked at me funny even though I asked. Haven't tried it since.

I like these Battle Reports.

Thanks for the cool report. It's very entertaining with the pictures. Well done!

I also like your list! I have already read your last report and it actually made me take out my Scyks for a flight recently ;-)

Looking forward to the next round (and hopefully the report of day 2)

Nice report. Seems like a nice diversity of ships being flown (which is not something I would think reading these boards).

12 hours ago, Kleeg005 said:

Loving the list, the detailed accounts, and the pictures!

Thanx! I really like doing these batreps. It's something I used to do back when I was playing Warhammer 40k

10 hours ago, Force Majeure said:

I tried to take pics of my game once. They looked at me funny even though I asked. Haven't tried it since.

I like these Battle Reports.

Thanks! I always ask for permission. Up to now, no one has complained

9 hours ago, cybu said:

Thanks for the cool report. It's very entertaining with the pictures. Well done!

I also like your list! I have already read your last report and it actually made me take out my Scyks for a flight recently ;-)

Looking forward to the next round (and hopefully the report of day 2)

Thanks! Nice to hear about you taking the scyks for a spin! How did it go? Next round coming up!

3 hours ago, Darth Meanie said:

Nice report. Seems like a nice diversity of ships being flown (which is not something I would think reading these boards).

Thanks! I faced mostly Scum, but very diverse lists, which is nice. Asajj was the most common one, as well as Fenn Rau

Congratulations on your finish! And thank you for the thorough write-ups. So, how many total games would you say you have now flown with this list, both practice and competitive?

Nice write up. What are your thoughts on improving the list?

Did you find cloaking device useful in majority of games, or would something like EMP on Kaato be better to ion ships? If it can save you shots against for just 1 round, that could be a game changer. Or what about BMST on both Palob and Kaato?

When C-ROC is released are you planning on using named pilots? 2pts from cloak can get you Genesis Red.

2 hours ago, Kleeg005 said:

Congratulations on your finish! And thank you for the thorough write-ups. So, how many total games would you say you have now flown with this list, both practice and competitive?

Thanks! I've played the main core of the list for 69 exact games, with a 47/22 record. Most of my losses have been in tournaments. Maybe half of all those 69 games I was using Torkil instead of Palob. And at the beginning I used 2 HLsCyks, but dropped one to a Mangler after 3-4 games to get Dengar, and the TLT on the hawk, instead of the ABT, which I could rarely use. Kaa'to has remained untouched from the beginning, he's just perfect like that.

30 minutes ago, wurms said:

Nice write up. What are your thoughts on improving the list?

Did you find cloaking device useful in majority of games, or would something like EMP on Kaato be better to ion ships? If it can save you shots against for just 1 round, that could be a game changer. Or what about BMST on both Palob and Kaato?

When C-ROC is released are you planning on using named pilots? 2pts from cloak can get you Genesis Red.

Thanks! I think there isn't much room for improvement. There's always 2 points left that have been hanging loose, and I tried VT on Palob, or Cloak, but none has proven vital. I thought maybe scavenger crane on Kaa'to could do it, but I haven't tried it yet, and now that I look back, I don't think it will work too often... Vectored Thrusters on Kaa'to can be crucial to make someone bump, but I'm not sure, as he usually dies first. BMST on both Kaa'to and Palob can be good, I'll have to try it. Didn't think of EMP device, but if it works, it can be devastating! Also thought about putting the new "receive-Ion-recover-shield" upgrade coming in the C-ROC ln the HLSCyk But thinking deeply into it, I think having initiative can be game changing against all the other attani builds, as most of the ones I faced also went to 100p, and I had to hope to win the initiative roll or wait for the opponent's mistake to finally go 2nd...

Maybe I'll just leave it at 98p and 2p bid

What would you do?

9 minutes ago, RoockieBoy said:

Thanks! I think there isn't much room for improvement. There's always 2 points left that have been hanging loose, and I tried VT on Palob, or Cloak, but none has proven vital. I thought maybe scavenger crane on Kaa'to could do it, but I haven't tried it yet, and now that I look back, I don't think it will work too often... Vectored Thrusters on Kaa'to can be crucial to make someone bump, but I'm not sure, as he usually dies first. BMST on both Kaa'to and Palob can be good, I'll have to try it. Didn't think of EMP device, but if it works, it can be devastating! Also thought about putting the new "receive-Ion-recover-shield" upgrade coming in the C-ROC ln the HLSCyk But thinking deeply into it, I think having initiative can be game changing against all the other attani builds, as most of the ones I faced also went to 100p, and I had to hope to win the initiative roll or wait for the opponent's mistake to finally go 2nd...

Maybe I'll just leave it at 98p and 2p bid

What would you do?

I would really look into EMP device on Kaato. It will mess with your opponents engagement decisions, even if you dont ever use it, it will get use He can get a block, and then EMP a ship and keep it there while your group surrounds it. Large ships will have to be careful engaging near a board edge or an asteroid. Can be a game changer vs Miranda's or Poes by ioning and then focus firing. Will makes small ships worry about k turning or PTLing if Kaato is neardby. I love having my opponent worry all game long about a card I may or may not use. I fly Ketsu and Teroch in same list and you wouldnt believe the maneuvers some people do to stay away from Ketsu and Teroch, flying comepletly different than they are use to, because if you end up range 1, you are dead. I think EMP can have the same effect. You could essentially EMP and entire Biggs squad, yikes!

14 hours ago, wurms said:

I would really look into EMP device on Kaato. It will mess with your opponents engagement decisions, even if you dont ever use it, it will get use He can get a block, and then EMP a ship and keep it there while your group surrounds it. Large ships will have to be careful engaging near a board edge or an asteroid. Can be a game changer vs Miranda's or Poes by ioning and then focus firing. Will makes small ships worry about k turning or PTLing if Kaato is neardby. I love having my opponent worry all game long about a card I may or may not use. I fly Ketsu and Teroch in same list and you wouldnt believe the maneuvers some people do to stay away from Ketsu and Teroch, flying comepletly different than they are use to, because if you end up range 1, you are dead. I think EMP can have the same effect. You could essentially EMP and entire Biggs squad, yikes!

That looks awesome! I'm definately trying that next time.

Took my RoockieTTANI out for a spin yesterday to a 16 player tournament. My first games after the Tatooine Open. I tried wurms suggestion and changed cloaking device on Palob for EMP device on Kaa'to. I liked it.
I forgot I had it in the first game, and it would have been nice. I used it in my 2nd game, and It was crucial, and I couldn't use it on the third game as Kaa'to died before he had a chance to. So I think it's a good change.

Round 1 vs imperials with 3x Tie/sf

Of all the players I was paired with my cousin, the one I play the most in my practise games, and one who knows my list very well. I got him into the game but he's already beaten me several times. His exact list was:

Quickdraw, crackshot, FCS, LWF, PA, Title
Backdraft, VI, FCS, LWF, PA, Title
Zeta Specialist, FCS, LWF, PA, Title

I tried to lure him out of the rocks and when we engaged, he couldn't kill Kaa'to, (R2 and R3 with focus-evade), so I was able to get the tracers on Backdraft. I got 4 hits with the HLsCyk to his 0 evades. Then a direct hit from the mangler meant Backdraft was out, and Palob took 2 shields off Zeta, losing 1 shield in return. Pretty crappy greens for Backdraft there...
Next turn both Quickdraw and Zeta went after Palob and killed him, but only after QD had lost all shields, and received 1 more damage. A few turns later Quickdraw was killed, and Kaa'to as well. A couple of turns later Zeta was gone.
Win 100-49

Round 2 vs Scum with Guri/2 HLsCyks

Guri, Attani, AdS, ID, Title, AT
TPV, attani, heavy scyk title, HLC, shield
TPV, attani, heavy scyk title, HLC, shield

Another scyk lover! It was awesome seeing 4 scyks on the table!
I won the initiative roll and gave it to him, so Palob and Kaa'to could do their tricks after Guri. I played the "rule of eleven" perfectly and as one scyk was right behind the other, only the first one was in range when we entered combat. Guri was out as well. His scyk fired at Palob and got hit, focus, focus, blank. He saved the focus for defense and it was ok for me, as I blanked with Palob, so only lost a shield. I had TLd the scyk with Kaa'to and it turned out it was a good call, as I blanked complety on my missiles. After the reroll I got 3 hits. He blanked his greens with focus-evade and the alpha strike began. HLsCyk did 4 damage and he blanked again! 6 blanks in a row! He saved the evade token for a possible crit, and the scyk was on 1 hull. But then, the tides changed. I got hit, crit with the mangler and he got 3 pure evades. Palob got 3 hits with the TLT and he got another 3 pure evades. Last TLT shot was also 3 hits and he got evade, focus, blank, so he spent the focus and the evade and survived! What did just happen? Next turn Palob killed the damaged scyk and the healthy one lost its shields, got a major hull breach crit, and was later killed by a direct hit. Guri got ion'd by Kaa'to's EMP device while facing the wrong way, which allowed me to surround her and destroy the starviper. I didn't lose a ship.

Win 100-0

Round 3 vs Imperials Quickdraw/Carnor/Bren

Quickdraw, DTF, LWF, title, FCS, targetting sync
Carnor, Adapt, AT
Tomax Bren, CS, EM, Ion Torps, prockets

I deployed on my right and he deployed QD and Bren in the middle, with Carnor trying to flank. I made a fast approach, trying to start combat before Carnor could join the fight and ruin my day, but he got there fast, and boosted into R1 shutting Kaa'to's focuses. He didn't make it to next turn, and Palob and the mangler scyk were Ion'd, but so was Carnor. I wasn't sure if all my ships had a shot on QD so I went after Bren. I did 3 damage with the HLsCyk, and one hit (turned to crit) with the mangler, which turned out to be a mistake, as QD used DTF to absorb the crit and fire at Palob. Palob then decided to take both shields off QD to avoid suffering her ability again. Next turn i barrel rolled my ion'd scyk to successfully block carnor, but Palob was ion'd again by the Ion torps and finally died. My HLsCyk fired at a tokenless Carnor and got him down to 1 hull. I was finally able to kill Carnor after a few turns, and time was called with me having the HLsCyk on 1 hull, as well as Tomax Bren. QD still had 3 hull, and my mangler scyk was intact. So we played last turn and QD guessed wrong and had no shot, my 1 hull-focus-evaded HLsCyk had no shot, and my mangler scyk was very lucky Bren was at R2 so he couldn't fire the prockets. I survived the primary shot and saved my focus for a hit, crit shot. Bren was on 1 hull and had 2 green dice with focus, but he got focus blank and died, allowing me to win the game, and the tournament!

I got the Ketsu Onyo Card, Swarm Tactics, and the TB token.

Great report. I'm gonna try this format of battle report for the Utah CAC.

Question? Was Dengar and cloaking device worth it? I've got a very similar build but Palob has intel agent, vectored thrusters, and BMST. I'm just curious what you think, not trying to suggest differently. You fly you.

20 hours ago, RoockieBoy said:

Took my RoockieTTANI out for a spin yesterday to a 16 player tournament. My first games after the Tatooine Open. I tried wurms suggestion and changed cloaking device on Palob for EMP device on Kaa'to. I liked it.
I forgot I had it in the first game, and it would have been nice. I used it in my 2nd game, and It was crucial, and I couldn't use it on the third game as Kaa'to died before he had a chance to. So I think it's a good change.

I got the Ketsu Onyo Card, Swarm Tactics, and the TB token.

Glad the EMP worked out! Nice loot! I really want that Ketsu card. Havent made it to any LGS tourneys this quarter though.

18 hours ago, Sir13scott said:

Great report. I'm gonna try this format of battle report for the Utah CAC.

Question? Was Dengar and cloaking device worth it? I've got a very similar build but Palob has intel agent, vectored thrusters, and BMST. I'm just curious what you think, not trying to suggest differently. You fly you.

Thanx! I'm glad it has inspired you to write one of you own. It's important to take many pictures and write down what you remember of each match as soon as you can, while it's still fresh. I write everything down in my phone, and just coly paste it later.

Cloaking device can be a life saver when you have to run away and survive to protect your MOV, but I only used it in 2 or 3 games of the 10 I played in the Open. I wouldn't say it's really necessary. Dengar, on the other hand, is MANDATORY for me. I seem to have like a 90% chance of getting 3 hits for both attacks with Dengar rerolls and 2 focuses. I just don't imagine myself not using him. I tried IA before, because I had ABT and cloak, and used him more as a blocker. But like I said, TLT with Dengar and 2 focuses... it's awesome. I haven't tried BMST yet. Maybe I will next time.