Pattern analyzer and stress

By balindamood, in X-Wing Rules Questions

If I have Pattern Analyzer on a ship, and his has a stress token at the start of activation and performs a white maneuver, can that ship perform an action, or does PA only work when you perform a red maneuver?

PA only delays the "Check Pilot Stress" step. If you've already got stress it doesn't do anything for you.

I need a Tycho Analyzer.

Side note: it works very well on green manoeuvres, too. Green -> PtL -> clear stress -> profit!

It's worth noting, perhaps, that the Check Pilot Stress step is a bit of a misnomer - it's not a step where you check to see if your pilot is stressed, it's a step where you check the colour of the move you just did and adjust your stress accordingly. It's an entirely understandable confusion.

9 minutes ago, thespaceinvader said:

It's worth noting, perhaps, that the Check Pilot Stress step is a bit of a misnomer - it's not a step where you check to see if your pilot is stressed, it's a step where you check the colour of the move you just did and adjust your stress accordingly. It's an entirely understandable confusion.

I've seen a lot of people say this and I dislike it because I think it adds confusion. The Check Pilot's Stress step is where you check to see if the pilot gains or loses stress. I don't really see how it's any kind of misnomer.

I totally get that people aren't assuming that just from the title, but I don't think it's fair to say that step is in any way unreasonably titled.

Because 'Check Pilot Stress' sounds much more like 'check whether your pilot is stressed' than it does your thing...

Update Pilot Stress would be a much less ambiguous title.

6 hours ago, thespaceinvader said:

It's worth noting, perhaps, that the Check Pilot Stress step is a bit of a misnomer - it's not a step where you check to see if your pilot is stressed, it's a step where you check the colour of the move you just did and adjust your stress accordingly. It's an entirely understandable confusion.

It's not just about the color of your maneuver... If you move through a debris, you can perform your action before you get the stress if you have PA.

8 minutes ago, Thormind said:

It's not just about the color of your maneuver... If you move through a debris, you can perform your action before you get the stress if you have PA.

Debris isn't relevant to the name of the step though; that's just a timing cue. It's relevant to pattern analyser but only in that the step Debris happens at is the one PA moves. It's coincidental that debris adds stress of its own, though the timing is intentional so you can't clear the stress from debris by doing a green move through it.

21 hours ago, thespaceinvader said:

Debris isn't relevant to the name of the step though; that's just a timing cue. It's relevant to pattern analyser but only in that the step Debris happens at is the one PA moves. It's coincidental that debris adds stress of its own, though the timing is intentional so you can't clear the stress from debris by doing a green move through it.

Not sure i understand what you are saying... Without PA if you get stressed from debris you cant take an action. With PA, you can. "Check pilot stress" is not just about the color of the maneuver you are doing. Otherwise PA would not work on stress from debris. The card as the step named explicitly and it has been said to work with stress from both debris and maneuver. The only way this could happen is if stress from debris is assignes during the "check pilot stress" step. Unless i'm missing something...?

My point is that Debris could happen after the fleebleglarb step for all that the name of the step makes a difference to its function.

Edited by thespaceinvader

The stress from debris is applied after the Check Pilot Stress step. Pattern Analyser moves the Check Pilot Stress step until after the Perform Action step.

So usually:

Execute Manoeuvre -> stress from debris -> Perform Action

With Pattern Analyser:

Execute Manoeuvre -> Action Step -> Check Pilot Stress -> stress from debris.

23 hours ago, InquisitorM said:

The stress from debris is applied after the Check Pilot Stress step. Pattern Analyser moves the Check Pilot Stress step until after the Perform Action step.

So usually:

Execute Manoeuvre -> stress from debris -> Perform Action

With Pattern Analyser:

Execute Manoeuvre -> Action Step -> Check Pilot Stress -> stress from debris.

Ahhh, ok!