...with a simple card errata?

That wouldn't make sense thematically as the proton torpedo launcher and ion cannon on Slave 1 faces forward...

7 minutes ago, Stevey86 said:

...with a simple card errata?

Nope, it's still going to be bad.

Really it needs a whole new dial. But that won't happen so other ways to assist the maneuverability, native BR could help, maybe allow it to bank BR with the title.

Yeah giving it barrel roll would probably do it. Giving it barrel roll and a hard 1 would be even better.

Yeah... Would not be enough. I think to fix the Firespray, you'd have to be a little dramatic, especially with the Imperial Firesprays. You have a combination of bad pilots in a ship that's overcosted, and in a price range where you can take a Defender instead.

The Scum ones are a little better, but also suffer the "there are better options at the price," issue. The Shadowcaster is just a more flexible ship with better pilot abilities.

I just won a tournament yesterday with Imperial Kath. But I think really a second Crew slot that's discounted would solve the problem.

They did fix the firespray, it's called the lancer class pursuit craft.

As for actual fixes I still think a title enabling them to take 'small ship only' upgrades would do it. Give them access to things like juke and vectored thrusters. Their current titles aren't typically good enough to matter for overlap purposes anyway.

You may equip small ship only upgrades.

Edit: Vectored Thrusters, Illicit Cloaking Device, Deadeye, Juke, and whatever Intensity does.

I like this fix:

perform a boost action at the beginning of the combat phase. It helps swing those aux arcs and protect the blind spot and fits well with scum boba's ability.

6 minutes ago, Shenannigan said:

I like this fix:

perform a boost action at the beginning of the combat phase. It helps swing those aux arcs and protect the blind spot and fits well with scum boba's ability.

I already do that. PTL, Engine, Isard. Nearly always have a shot on something.
Admittedly you do have to have been hit a few times for it to work.

Think what people want is a 0 point title that allows you to perform a free boost action combine that with a new Firespray only mod that let's you use the 1 hard turn when boosting would go a long way towards fixing the fail and making it worth the points.

Just the latter part would probably be adequate - firespray-only mod for 4 points that gives you EU and choice of the hard 1 template when boosting.

18 minutes ago, gamblertuba said:

You may equip small ship only upgrades.

Edit: Vectored Thrusters, Illicit Cloaking Device, Deadeye, Juke, and whatever Intensity does.

Vectored Thrusters, Juke and Isard on an Imp 'Spray would be awesome!

My buddies and I were messing around with the idea of a Mod that gives EU, and lets you turn any bank into a turn of the equivalent hard turn with the same color of manuever. That way they can do 1 hards from 1 banks then boost. And it would give Imperial Boba a boost too, as it would tie in pretty well with his ability. We were thinking it would be 0-2 points for that.

43 minutes ago, PastrySandwich said:

Really it needs a whole new dial. But that won't happen so other ways to assist the maneuverability, native BR could help, maybe allow it to bank BR with the title.

Bank BR was another thing that I thought of.
Would the 1 bank template be a bit much? It was a bit of a jump with the old big ship BR rules.
FFG might need to give us a 45 degree wedge marker...

7 minutes ago, thespaceinvader said:

Just the latter part would probably be adequate - firespray-only mod for 4 points that gives you EU and choice of the hard 1 template when boosting.

I'd be OK with the 4 point coast if its a free action if not then it should have a 0 point coast

God no. Adding boost to it needs to cost what boost costs. Giving it a four point discount on boosting would be insane.

1 minute ago, thespaceinvader said:

God no. Adding boost to it needs to cost what boost costs. Giving it a four point discount on boosting would be insane.

Not really we are talking about an over coated ship with a bad dial

Just now, thespaceinvader said:

God no. Adding boost to it needs to cost what boost costs. Giving it a four point discount on boosting would be insane.

I disagree. The ship is overcosted and benefits from repositioning, so giving it a discounted boost or barrel roll would make perfect sense.

Sorry, double post.

I will shoot myself in my foot. FS 31 is not overcosted.. The FS 31 generic was OK when released. The problem is that comparing this with Lancers or UPS shuttles is lamentable.

The problem lies in the superb ships released with later "Codex". Playing Epic a FS 31 is better. The Slave I Title is too weak, I agree.

3 minutes ago, AdamGATX105 said:

Not really we are talking about an over coated ship with a bad dial

Not really. We're talking about a reasonably well costed ship with a bad dial. Scum Boba is decent, but a bit too stiff in manoeuvring.

I'd be persuadable that a small discount might be appropriate but adding not just boost but a better version of boost to a large based ship fneedssome costing. Especially to a ship that can get entirely action-free mods with Dengar and/or expertise.

2 minutes ago, thespaceinvader said:

Not really. We're talking about a reasonably well costed ship with a bad dial. Scum Boba is decent, but a bit too stiff in manoeuvring.

But that's just it the dial is why the ship is over coated. So any fix has to address that issue.

Linked Weapons systems

Mod

Firespray only

-After you perform a primary attack that hits you may perform a secondary attack and receive a stress token, may not be used if stressed.