So now with the major changes to some tier one lists, what is going to fill the gaps? The new changes made some ships and cards susceptible to tilt and stress. So which is going to see more of an influx into the meta, turrets or dealing stress?

I haven't a clue....I just hope flying, repositioning and evading bubble to the top; this is, at its core, about fighters piloted by trained pilots right?

My local meta seems to be shifting towards ordnance a lot, with more and more TIE Bombers. Also, TIE/Ds started to emerge.

It was a nasty surprise when I brought the Ghost and faced 3 ordnance-heavy lists in a row, on our recent local event. Getting 10 damage off two Cluster Missiles wasn't exactly good for my morale that day.

I would really like to run more imp aces stuff. I was bad at it in the past. Then it became a bad idea to even try.

I'd like to try again

Ah, man. I thought this was about a new device to really clean up the meta.

Bomber k-wings are as good as ever.

Defenders won't actually go very far, once people get over the Chicken Little syndrome; they're as efficient as they always were.

The same effect is likely to happen with palp aces, eventually, though the change in balance there was more substantial. So it'll never get quite so big again, but maybe triple aces will take its slot instead.

Expect a resurgence of TLT lists with the new in vogue vehicle for imperials.

Oh, and rebel regen will probably win something big. It usually does. ?

Tie/X7's are gonna stay good, just a little less dominating.

TLT is going to take the meta over again.

Dash Rendar and Rey are gonna make some waves.

I don't think the meta changes too much but I think stress control now comes back into it.

Just watching stream from Tatooine and the Miranda/Warden/Stress Y list is 5-0 and looks full of tricks. No BTL on the Y-Wing, which I like.

Mindlink is the most unfair thing you can do in X-Wing right now.

9 minutes ago, Mangipan said:

Mindlink is the most unfair thing you can do in X-Wing right now.

K Wing Bombers beg to differ.

1 minute ago, thespaceinvader said:

K Wing Bombers beg to differ.

Hopefully they will reverse the Cluster Mines errata.

32 minutes ago, Stay On The Leader said:

Hopefully they will reverse the Cluster Mines errata.

... Is that the big deal, though? Connors nets seem to be the real joy, though in truth neither would be so special without Sabine.

(Who is seriously scummy. C'mon, surely it's scum that should be sneaking in bonus bombs everywhere, eh?)

TLTs and stress and going to be present in the meta in fairly high levels so anything with Autothrusters and some stress-resilience is going to be popular (perhaps people will start flying Psycho-Tycho again ). Will this be enough to bring back classic Imperial Aces? I am not sure. Ordnance makes their lives risky, particularly as Palp is no longer as reliable as he once was.

W-Wing blocker shooter space denier meta!

4 hours ago, Mef82 said:

My local meta seems to be shifting towards ordnance a lot, with more and more TIE Bombers. Also, TIE/Ds started to emerge.

It was a nasty surprise when I brought the Ghost and faced 3 ordnance-heavy lists in a row, on our recent local event. Getting 10 damage off two Cluster Missiles wasn't exactly good for my morale that day.

No, I still don't see any of the builds that made R-3 Agro+Deadeye U-boats the terror that they were before all these "corrections" were made.

Yeah there's a lot of help to missiles and torpedoes, but there also has been a lot of repo from that help.

2 hours ago, Reiver said:

... Is that the big deal, though? Connors nets seem to be the real joy, though in truth neither would be so special without Sabine.

(Who is seriously scummy. C'mon, surely it's scum that should be sneaking in bonus bombs everywhere, eh?)

Now that the cat's out of the bag regarding significant card alterations, if Sabine bombers prove dominant I have little doubt she'll get intimately acquainted to the nerfhammer. Probably a restriction to only the ship she's on.

The meta in the Tatooine Open, in Madrid, with 360 players, is full of triple scout with attain mind link.

This proves that the nerf, just set the meta back one year.

FFG Nerfed, and the players run back to what is easy and efficient to play.

People want to win games. In the end of the day, everyone knows who wins and no one remembers what did he used to win.

Brace yourselves for the return of the triple u-boat, for the alpha strike lists and for the 4x TLTs.

20 minutes ago, pflrocha said:

The meta in the Tatooine Open, in Madrid, with 360 players, is full of triple scout with attain mind link.

This proves that the nerf, just set the meta back one year.

FFG Nerfed, and the players run back to what is easy and efficient to play.

People want to win games. In the end of the day, everyone knows who wins and no one remembers what did he used to win.

Brace yourselves for the return of the triple u-boat, for the alpha strike lists and for the 4x TLTs.

What it really shows to me is that the Jumpmaster is probably the worst designed expansion since the K Wing, with the exception of Tel and possibly Dengar pilots, virtually every bit of it is super OP.

1 hour ago, pflrocha said:

The meta in the Tatooine Open, in Madrid, with 360 players, is full of triple scout with attain mind link.

This proves that the nerf, just set the meta back one year.

FFG Nerfed, and the players run back to what is easy and efficient to play.

People want to win games. In the end of the day, everyone knows who wins and no one remembers what did he used to win.

Brace yourselves for the return of the triple u-boat, for the alpha strike lists and for the 4x TLTs.

uh, triple U-boat has been killed a while ago. The R4-Deadeye no linger works and Manaroo has been smashed in the face and she don't look pretty anymore.

But now with TLTs you have you choice of:

• Agressor TLT
• Stresshog TLT
• Thug life TLT

1 hour ago, pflrocha said:

The meta in the Tatooine Open, in Madrid, with 360 players, is full of triple scout with attain mind link.

How does this work? Attani and unhinged to help clear the Stress with one overclocked to keep feeding tokens?

17 minutes ago, Marinealver said:

uh, triple U-boat has been killed a while ago. The R4-Deadeye no linger works and Manaroo has been smashed in the face and she don't look pretty anymore.

But now with TLTs you have you choice of:

• Agressor TLT
• Stresshog TLT
• Thug life TLT

They did specify mindlink Uboats.

They don't manage nearly the same firepower on round 1, but they keep the firepower up just fine on subsequent rounds - and I can only imagine Inspiring Recruit helps out there more than ever.

7 minutes ago, Reiver said:

They did specify mindlink Uboats.

They don't manage nearly the same firepower on round 1, but they keep the firepower up just fine on subsequent rounds - and I can only imagine Inspiring Recruit helps out there more than ever.

mindlink is no substitute for dead-eye when it comes to torpedo boats.

16 minutes ago, Marinealver said:

mindlink is no substitute for dead-eye when it comes to torpedo boats.

On the contrary, trip Us are still pretty viable and mindlink is an excellent substitute. You have one set up as a bumpmaster that takes the focus action, and the other two set up with torps that take TLs. It works just ifne.

56 minutes ago, Marinealver said:

uh, triple U-boat has been killed a while ago. The R4-Deadeye no linger works and Manaroo has been smashed in the face and she don't look pretty anymore.

But now with TLTs you have you choice of:

• Agressor TLT
• Stresshog TLT
• Thug life TLT

Coming soon: Scurrg TLTs and Scurrg Deadeye Missile Boats.

7 hours ago, Stay On The Leader said:

Hopefully they will reverse the Cluster Mines errata.

Cluster Mines are fine faq'd as they are. They just become very powerful with sabine. I hope theyll not nerf them, since that would just make them unplayable for imps (and scum).