Asajj & Ketsu

By CubsFanSean23, in X-Wing Squad Lists

Not sure about a two ship mindlink. PTL might be better?

Points wise, Mindlink fit, I figure having one focus for both allows one to do another action each round....Dengar is basically a target lock for Ketsu giving him that second action............I get your point but that was my thinking, ideally it's 3 ships but it's like 1 and half actions for each for 2 points less on each ship, if that makes any sense.

I just think that with only two, you might not get your money's worth, especially because they're going to have a variety of action needs. Asajj needs to rotate arc, Target Lock, boost. Ketsu really needs to rotate arc, boost. I think that you will often not see Attani triggering. If you're ok with that, full steam ahead. Otherwise, I think you could probably drop the Hot Shot blaster and maybe give one PtL, the other Lone Wolf? Or something similar.

I think I will have both versions available and I like the ideas, I agree I action efficency being key.

Maybe I am missing something, isn't that the same list I posted?

14 hours ago, CubsFanSean23 said:

Maybe I am missing something, isn't that the same list I posted?

I think he accidentally pasted the link to your list.

Not a huge fan of mindlink + glitterstim. they both achieve the same thing (free focuses) and glitterstim has an even more negative effect with mindlink. If you really want to keep mindlink i'd try to find other more action efficient ways to spend the points. You can ditch the engine upgrades for countermeasures or gyroscopic targeting (hard to use well, but you can get away with never taking a "rotate firing arc" action if you have good positioning and foresight.)

Here's my take on double shadow caster. Ketsu wants to hit no matter what so you can push more damage through with asajj. without gunner you're going to have a hell of a time pushing damage through on token stackers. Asajj is built to be tanky. You'll want lone wolf because it's beyond awkward to fly the higher PS large base ship right in front of the lower PS large base ship.

https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Scum and Villainy&d=v4!s!219:98,190,194,215:-1:12:;218:220,21,-1,202:44:28:&sn=Unnamed Squadron

Also remember that you're doing far less damage than dengaroo or brobots. double shadow casters are already at a disadvantage because they need so much more skill to use effectively (rotating firing arc vs turret, 2 green dice vs brobots 3, no gunner or dengar double tap, no crazy action economy from ig88C or manaroo.) You do have the control factor in your favor. If you do land the tractor beam tokens and stress you can lay down some serious hurt from a control standpoint. not getting shot at because your opponent got tractor beamed onto an asteroid is better than rolling 4 greens with autothrusters in my book.

Edited by Redavhtrad

My inclination for this is definitely PTL over Mindlink. You can expect to lose a ship quickly in many if not most games, and when you do, your other ship loses its EPT. It's a bit more expensive but it makes them a lot more durable.

IME Ketsu's fine with just Dengar crew - she doesn't have much trouble pushing damage onto token stackers because she blocks them so they don't stack tokens, then tractors them so they die.

Interesting, why the 2 point bid??

Mainly to give Ketsu a chance to attack before other ps9 pilots, giving her a potential 2 tractor beams before anyone else shoots, not to mention asteroid placement. I go for the biggest two rocks and 1 debris I can find and try and keep them as centralised as possible, the lancer dial really shines when orbiting the edge of the board. If you aren't happy with the bid you can go for stims or rigged cargo shoot on Assaj but I like the bid because of the aggressive way I play Ketsu.

dunno about ketsu but we just had a tourney won with an asajj/dengar mindlink combo using the new faq...... Looking back over the results apparently i was the only one to even down a ship on him (dengar) using twin autoblaster vcx100's

Edited by Ralgon

Can you post the build?

wont see him for a while but from memory (not complete)

assajj

latts

title

glitterstim

attani

Dengar

countermeasures

k4

attani