I took Intensity Poe with Expertise Rey and got crushed by a double SF (QD & BD) + Soontir list last night.

Granted I haven't tried flying Rey in a long time, but I'm not convinced.

15 hours ago, BlodVargarna said:

I took Intensity Poe with Expertise Rey and got crushed by a double SF (QD & BD) + Soontir list last night.

Granted I haven't tried flying Rey in a long time, but I'm not convinced.

Out of curiosity, what was on the SFs? Standard Soontir plus the two pilots leaves just 9 points.

I think QD had A debt to pay, fire control systems and light weight frame.

BD had VI, FCS, and LWF.

Soontir had PTL, Targeting computer, and auto-thrusters.

I initially flew this Rey/Poe combo for a long time :

T-70 X-Wing: •Poe Dameron (HotR) (40)
Integrated Astromech (0)
Black One (1)
Push the Limit (3)
BB-8 (2)
Primed Thrusters (1)

YT-1300: •Rey (58)
Millennium Falcon (HotR) (1)
Expertise (4)
Finn (5)
Kanan Jarrus (3)

Total: 98/100

Expertise combined with the Kanan sloop rocks, very consistent damage output! Poe can be squishy but denying target locks is always very satisfying.

I have switched over to the following list though and am finding it far more competitive with a current 9-0 winning streak.

YT-1300: •Rey (58)
Millennium Falcon (HotR) (1)
Expertise (4)
Kanan Jarrus (3)
Finn (5)

ARC-170: •Norra Wexley (40)
Vectored Thrusters (2)
Alliance Overhaul (0)
Push the Limit (3)
Bistan (2)
R2-D2 (4)

Total: 98/100

Lots of synergy and opponents have a tough time choosing their first target. Both ships are resilient and hit hard!

5 hours ago, BlodVargarna said:

I think QD had A debt to pay, fire control systems and light weight frame.

BD had VI, FCS, and LWF.

Soontir had PTL, Targeting computer, and auto-thrusters.

OK, yep that would be tough, the Soontir is maybe a little easier to hit without the stealth devise but still. I see lots of crit output there.

Just played my Rey - Poe list in a tournament yesterday with one change, I took Expertise off of Poe and added an engine upgrade to Rey. Went 3 - 1 with two 100 - 0 wins (one was in only 23 min.) and only loss was to the tournament winner. Ended up 4th overall thanks to him kicking my butt (and everyone else's for that matter) so bad. I still think the list is great and I only lost the match to the winner due to two things. First he is easily the best player in the store and second I made an early mistake in my flying that let him trap me in between some rocks and hit me with an EMP that gave his Fen back to back range one shots on Rey. After that it was only a matter of time before Poe was dead. I did however manage to pull off a sweet swoop to boost in and block his Fen the next round. Only problem there was she was at only one health and at range 3 of a HWK with TLT.

Necro'ed!

I don't see a tournament I care all that much about trying to win for the next few months, so I think I might dedicate myself to Rey/Poe for a while. I think Plot Armor Poe is dreadfully boring to fly. BB-8 Poe all the way. Also, after going after the Mynock Rey bounty and failing miserably, the base slooping Rey is absolutely the way to go. I've kind of had Determination stapled on Rey because Kylo just puts her in a dumpster without it. That doesn't leave a lot of room.

• Does PS9 need a bid? (I think it does against Quickdraw and other imperial aces)
• Does PS9 matter or is PS8 okay? (See above)
• Is Intensity actually good on Poe? (as opposed to PtL?)
• etc...

Poe Dameron (PS9) (33)
Intensity (2)
BB-8 (2)
Primed Thrusters (1)
Autothrusters (2)
Black One (1)

Rey (45)
Determination (1)
Finn (5)
Kanan Jarrus (3)
Inertial Dampeners (1)
Smuggling Compartment (0)
Millennium Falcon (TFA) (1)

Total: 97

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1 hour ago, gennataos said:

Necro'ed!

I don't see a tournament I care all that much about trying to win for the next few months, so I think I might dedicate myself to Rey/Poe for a while. I think Plot Armor Poe is dreadfully boring to fly. BB-8 Poe all the way. Also, after going after the Mynock Rey bounty and failing miserably, the base slooping Rey is absolutely the way to go. I've kind of had Determination stapled on Rey because Kylo just puts her in a dumpster without it. That doesn't leave a lot of room.

• Does PS9 need a bid? (I think it does against Quickdraw and other imperial aces)
• Does PS9 matter or is PS8 okay? (See above)
• Is Intensity actually good on Poe? (as opposed to PtL?)
• etc...

Poe Dameron (PS9) (33)
Intensity (2)
BB-8 (2)
Primed Thrusters (1)
Autothrusters (2)
Black One (1)

Rey (45)
Determination (1)
Finn (5)
Kanan Jarrus (3)
Inertial Dampeners (1)
Smuggling Compartment (0)
Millennium Falcon (TFA) (1)

Total: 97

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I’ve done a similar build. Flying it on Thursday Might swap determination for Crackshot.

ReyPoe (100)

•Poe Dameron (PS8) (41) - T-70 X-Wing
Intensity (2), •BB-8 (2), Comm Relay (3), •Black One (1), Autothrusters (2)

•Rey (59) - YT-1300
Determination (1), •Kanan Jarrus (3), •Finn (5), •Millennium Falcon (1), Smuggling Compartment (0), Burnout SLAM (1), Countermeasures (3)

I like flying Rey/Poe but it is not really competitive.

Im also a fan of old title and 3PO.

Any thought to Glitterstim? With Rey's rerolls and Finn's blank, it seems like having access to multi-focus could be handy sometimes (and Kanan allows you to clear with a white next turn). A lot of that is just that I don't have much experience with Inertial Dampeners on any ship, so I don't have the best sense of how effective it is. I do know that a large part of why Expertise Rey is good is that it allows you to easily save a focus for defense, which isn't all that bad on Rey/Finn specifically. That said, I suppose several Illicits you could take are solid. Burnout SLAM is a cheap way to get a big reposition going. Inertial Dampeners (although Kanan can't clear the stress from it that turn) is also a potent tool on Rey, who really likes to keep arc on things.

Determination is a painful meta call. I don't face too many Kylos myself, so it's not one I'd make, but I totally understand if he's lurking where you play. It may be necessary based on what you face, it just feels like losing out on so much.

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Push the Limit Poe has more positioning options. When you boost after a BB-8 Barrel roll, you'll have the option to put yourself into more positions. Bending a 3-straight with a boost before moving is really cool. You may be able to avoid more shots. Intensity Poe has access to Evade tokens (Intensity an Evade after a barrel roll, then focus action for Poe's ability and to flip Intensity), so that'll be stronger against things you can't arc dodge. Intensity can also T-Roll and K-Turn far more safely, since you can Boost after with Primed Thrusters and get a Focus. The next turn, you'll still be able to BB-8 Barrel Roll as normal. Personally, I think I come down more on the Intensity side, but I'm sure there are folks who prefer the PTL playstyle and I respect that.

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Just now, BlodVargarna said:

I like flying Rey/Poe but it is not really competitive.

Im also a fan of old title and 3PO.

I like the thought of old title + 3PO (or new title and 3PO). I get the strength of white S-Loops on a ship with a strong arc preference, but sometimes Kanan feels like an over-investment in one trick. Such a build can make a far more defensive Rey, and for a ship which kind of likes to joust, that can make a pretty huge difference.

10 minutes ago, theBitterFig said:

I get the strength of white S-Loops on a ship with a strong arc preference, but sometimes Kanan feels like an over-investment in one trick.

That’s exactly how I feel about it. The MF dial is easy enough to keep people in arc. And for those times you don’t have someone in arc, you are still throwing 3-4 dice. Not shabby, just don’t make a habit of it.

I think Ray needs a movement adjuster and so would give her Engine Upgrade when possible. For points. With Poe and would probably pair well with VI (expertise is good if you have points).

So:

Rey: VI, Finn, Kanan, EU, Title (TFA)

Poe: PTL, BB8, Black One, Primed Thursters, Integrated

99 Pts

6 hours ago, gennataos said:

Does PS9 need a bid? (I think it does against Quickdraw and other imperial aces)

• Does PS9 matter or is PS8 okay? (See above)
• Is Intensity actually good on Poe? (as opposed to PtL?)
• etc...

Need a bid? I think so.

PS9? Yes, the BB-8 BR & or boost is much stronger the later you move.

Intensity? Yes.

All of these are related I think. Without R2-D2, Poe relies on arc dodging, evade tokens, and when possible getting a 3rd defense die from range or obstruction. I have found I much prefer the BB-8 Poe to the R2-D2 Poe because it's more fun to fly, and has much more offensive firepower. The offense comes from 1) getting a focus from BB-8/Intensity and using your action for Target Lock (when you are not getting shot or are only taking 1 shot with 3 defense dice and Autothrusters), and 2) Primed Thrusters / Intensity Poe can K-Turn or T-Roll then boost for focus, therefore getting much more time on target than R2-D2 Poe. Not to mention his near immunity to stress and ion (because even when he's got both he will still get boost and focus).

With Rey as partner, try to make your enemy choose between shooting a tokened up Poe or a Rey with arc.

I am itching to fly this again.

HOTR Poe Rey (100)

Poe Dameron (41) - T-70 X-Wing
Intensity (2), BB-8 (2), Primed Thrusters (1), Black One (1), Autothrusters (2)

Rey (59) - YT-1300
Expertise (4), Finn (5), C-3PO (3), Millennium Falcon (1), Smuggling Compartment (0), Burnout SLAM (1)

On the joust, Rey is incredibly tanky.

Take evade for action

Pick 0 (hopefully get 0) add one evade from 3PO, add a blank from Finn, reroll bothe blanks hopefully get 1 more evade, add evade from token. 1 agi ship gets 3 evades.

27 minutes ago, BlodVargarna said:

I am itching to fly this again.

HOTR Poe Rey (100)

Poe Dameron (41) - T-70 X-Wing
Intensity (2), BB-8 (2), Primed Thrusters (1), Black One (1), Autothrusters (2)

Rey (59) - YT-1300
Expertise (4), Finn (5), C-3PO (3), Millennium Falcon (1), Smuggling Compartment (0), Burnout SLAM (1)

On the joust, Rey is incredibly tanky.

Take evade for action

Pick 0 (hopefully get 0) add one evade from 3PO, add a blank from Finn, reroll bothe blanks hopefully get 1 more evade, add evade from token. 1 agi ship gets 3 evades.

If you make Poe PS8 then that’s my list.

Move found that the 2 point bid can help Rey on occasion (granted not often) but more frequently bumping Rey into Poe because you moved him first can help makes sure her guns are firing when they need to. And realistically, Poe at PS 9 is either getting out PS’d by other Aces or out bidded that the extra cost isn’t worth it.

This is what I've been flying lately, and I've had pretty good luck so far. When Poe gets into trouble, he can sometimes not have tokens available to flip Intensity back over.

Poe Dameron (PS9 Version) [Black One, BB-8, Primed Thrusters, Intensity, Autothrusters] (41)

Rey [Expertise, Finn, Kanan Jarrus, Millennium Falcon (Segnor's Loop Version)] (58)

Personally, I fly this Rey/Poe:

Rey w/ Expertise, Finn, Kanan Jarrus, Millennium Falcon (TFA)

Poe (PS9) w/ Intensity, R2D2, Integrated Astromech, Primed Thrusters, Black One

Or drop Kanan for EU.

Thanks for the input, everyone! You've given me a lot to consider.

On 3/17/2017 at 9:58 AM, gennataos said:

I've run into similar results. Rey wants to be aggressive, but Poe wants to pick his shots most of the time, in typical Ace fashion. That results in either Rey getting focused down without enough support or Poe getting caught and killed too early. Maybe the problem is trying to fly Rey too aggressively too early?

I’ve had success with Rey and Poe. I typically get Poe right in the think of it and kite around Rey.

First, there was something stuck in the editor from May. That's weird.

Second, nerco'd! I've been proxying Advance Optics on Poe for a week or two and I think it really gives him a fantastic boost. I'll not be surprised if Rey/Poe can make cuts. Having that "always there" focus token means that much.

This is my current baseline Rey/Poe squad. Things I'm currently considering:

• Determination on Rey to combat Kylo influx
• Drop Poe to the PS8 version and give him R2-D2

Poe Dameron (PS9) (33)
Veteran Instincts (1)
BB-8 (2)
Advanced Optics (2)
Autothrusters (2)
Black One (1)

Rey (45)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Finn (5)
Kanan Jarrus (3)
Engine Upgrade (4)
Millennium Falcon (TFA) (1)

Total: 100

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Here’s my current version.

ReyPoe (98)

•Poe Dameron (42) - T-70 X-Wing
Intensity (2), •BB-8 (2), Advanced Optics (2), •Black One (1), Autothrusters (2)

•Rey (56) - YT-1300
Veteran Instincts (1), •Kanan Jarrus (3), •Finn (5), •Millennium Falcon (1), Smuggling Compartment (0), Burnout SLAM (1)

I’m very tempted to switch to PS8 VI Poe and give Rey countermeasures. I don’t think I mind losing initiative at PS10.

I've cooked this up as an anti-alpha list that I hope still has some legs against the field.

Fear the ReyPoe

Poe Dameron (PS8) (31)
Veteran Instincts (1)
BB-8 (2)
Advanced Optics (2)
Autothrusters (2)
Black One (1)

Rey (45)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Finn (5)
Kanan Jarrus (3)
Smuggling Compartment (0)
Millennium Falcon (TFA) (1)

Scavenger Crane (2)

Countermeasures (2)

Total: 99

50 minutes ago, Estarriol said:

Here’s my current version.

ReyPoe (98)

•Poe Dameron (42) - T-70 X-Wing
Intensity (2), •BB-8 (2), Advanced Optics (2), •Black One (1), Autothrusters (2)

•Rey (56) - YT-1300
Veteran Instincts (1), •Kanan Jarrus (3), •Finn (5), •Millennium Falcon (1), Smuggling Compartment (0), Burnout SLAM (1)

I’m very tempted to switch to PS8 VI Poe and give Rey countermeasures. I don’t think I mind losing initiative at PS10.

How's Intensity along with Advanced Optics been going? I've dismissed it because if I have a token to flip it back over, that means I didn't need the Evade it'll give me or Advanced Optics is now empty.

Haven’t flown it, but the logic is it’ll be just like I fly Com Relay but a point cheaper.

1 hour ago, gennataos said:

How's Intensity along with Advanced Optics been going? I've dismissed it because if I have a token to flip it back over, that means I didn't need the Evade it'll give me or Advanced Optics is now empty.

This sounds right to me. With Intensity, if you want to spend Evade tokens for Evade results, you'll need to be spending your focus token to flip back. In which case, you won't be able to save it with AdvO. Intensity/Primed works great with BB-8, or else VI/AdvO seems strong on paper (partly because it might allow the cheaper PS8 Poe). Intensity/AdvO seems clashes hard on paper.