Question 1

Ship 1 has ISYTDS on and Ship 2 (at range 1) has Draw Their Fire with some shield left. Your opponet get a crit on ship one and ship 2 uses Draw Their Fire. What happens? IMO the card on ISYTDS stays on it and ship 2 loses 1 shield. Am i correct? What happens if ship 2 has no shield? From my understanding the card stays on ISYTDS and ship 2 draws a crit from the damage deck. ISYTDS say it happens when you (the ship with the card on) suffers a crit. Since its ship 2 that gets the crit, it never trigger. Am i correct?

Question 2

Quickdraw has 1 shield and 3 hull left. A ship with a different PS hits him for four dmg. Does Quick ability trigger before he is destroyed? Does he get his free attack?

Quickdraw specifically doesnt care how or why she loses a shield, she lost a shield, so unless its in the middle of someone's attack (per faq she waits until thats done) she may now attack.

If i understand Draw Their Fire correctly, it would ignore somethingsomethingdarkside because afaik the original ship did not suffer a crit (unless there were multiples). An uncancelled crit is required, but that sounds really messy if hes still considered to have suffered a crit when nothing happens because DTF took it.

Yup. DtF ignores ISYTDS.

If QD is killed by damage that removes her last shield she gets to trigger her ability before she is removed, per the FAQ timing chart. If the damage did any meaningful crits to her however (i.e. Blinded Pilot or Weapons Failure) those would take effect first, however.

20 minutes ago, thespaceinvader said:

Yup. DtF ignores ISYTDS.

If QD is killed by damage that removes her last shield she gets to trigger her ability before she is removed, per the FAQ timing chart. If the damage did any meaningful crits to her however (i.e. Blinded Pilot or Weapons Failure) those would take effect first, however.

The most impactful crit in this case would be Blinded Pilot, preventing Quickdraw's attack. Quickdraw's ability could flip Blinded Pilot face down, but there's no point unless Simultaneous Attack Rule applies. (Which it doesn't since the original post specified a situation with different PS.)

So if we put the ISYTDS condition on Quickdraw, who has DTF, and land a crit on one of Quickdraws buddies, does ISYTDS assign it's card to Quickdraw if Quickdraw suffers the uncanceled crit for his friend with DTF?

I would image that it doesn't as the critical damage that is being suffered doesn't come from the attack but comes from DTF.

I think the issue here is that ISYTDS only affects the ship it's assigned to, so it can't trigger on somebody else suffering a critical damage, even if that damage was originally intended for ISYTDS's target.

On 17/03/2017 at 4:06 PM, WWHSD said:

So if we put the ISYTDS condition on Quickdraw, who has DTF, and land a crit on one of Quickdraws buddies, does ISYTDS assign it's card to Quickdraw if Quickdraw suffers the uncanceled crit for his friend with DTF?

I would image that it doesn't as the critical damage that is being suffered doesn't come from the attack but comes from DTF.

Was looking for this answer. My feeling is ISYTDS doesn't go off as the source of the crit is an ability not an attack.

On 3/17/2017 at 0:37 PM, digitalbusker said:

I think the issue here is that ISYTDS only affects the ship it's assigned to, so it can't trigger on somebody else suffering a critical damage, even if that damage was originally intended for ISYTDS's target.

I'd agree. ISYTDS is assigned to a given ship and if that ship suffers critical damage, then you trigger it. But DtF in this case would stop the ship it's assigned to from suffering critical damage, so ISYTDS wouldn't trigger, unless there's another source of critical damage.

On 3/17/2017 at 0:06 PM, WWHSD said:

So if we put the ISYTDS condition on Quickdraw, who has DTF, and land a crit on one of Quickdraws buddies, does ISYTDS assign it's card to Quickdraw if Quickdraw suffers the uncanceled crit for his friend with DTF?

I would image that it doesn't as the critical damage that is being suffered doesn't come from the attack but comes from DTF.

I believe the answer is yes, Quickdraw will receive a crit from the assigned condition, as the damage is still from the attack, DtF only changes the recipient of the damage. (I asked this question to one of the judges at Naboo as I was flying DtF squad). Also the relevant FAQ ruling is Bodyguard Prince Xizor ability.

EDIT: Actually after rereading ISYTDS FAQ entry, its even more simple as the trigger is "suffer a critical damage during an attack" and a crit pulled in by DtF certainly qualifies as a crit suffered during an attack (as it does not need to be an attack on DtF ship itself)

Edit: I think I misread the original question...

6 minutes ago, VanorDM said:

But the ship in question didn't suffer a critical damage.

Based on the wording of the ISYTDS only the ship that that condition has been assigned to suffers the results of it. It's not like anytime any ship on the table suffers critical damage ISYTDS triggers, only when the ship that condition has been assigned to suffers critical damage.

Prince Xizor is not the same thing, since that is about getting Hit, and not suffering damage, which are two completely different things.

The situation I'm analyzing is the one where the condition was assigned to Quickdraw itself (And Xizor situation is more about pulling the crit with DtF to cancel TLT or Tractor Beam. Nope, can't be done)

Just now, pt106 said:

The situation I'm analyzing is the one where the condition was assigned to Quickdraw itself (And Xizor situation is more about pulling the crit with DtF to cancel TLT or Tractor Beam. Nope, can't be done)

Yeah I read the question the wrong way. I was thinking it was someone pulled a <crit> from Quickdraw using DtF, not that QD was using DtF to pull the crit. In that case yes QD would suffer the effect since they suffered a uncanceled <crit> result.