32 minutes ago, Rune Taq said:

It's all about how you work the title card. It can be worded so it overrides the rule in the rule books.

If we were getting a title that allows rebels to use it, I am sure we would know about it already.

I doubt we will see a Rebels Quasar unless it is a campaign that has cardboard to support it along with titles along with support for imperial nebulons

17 minutes ago, Marinealver said:

Except for the color of the firing arcs. (Red for Rebels, Green for Imperials). There is a reason why in X-wing the Scuurg comes not only with a rebel and a scum dial but with a rebel tile as well as a rebel pilot card.

Yes. Exactly. It's card colors. Only card colors.

So absolutely nobody should care.

The reason X-wing has specific dials and card types associated with certain factions is that X-wing assigns specific stat lines, maneuver options and upgrade bars to their individual ships and ship tiles.

3 minutes ago, thecactusman17 said:

Yes. Exactly. It's card colors. Only card colors.

So absolutely nobody should care.

The reason X-wing has specific dials and card types associated with certain factions is that X-wing assigns specific stat lines, maneuver options and upgrade bars to their individual ships and ship tiles.

But what if the intention is to have them different as well - to have different armaments and arcs of fire, upgrade bars and such?

That'd necesstate ship tokens and cards.

42 minutes ago, mithril2098 said:

well they've confirmed the "alderaanian cruisers" are also CR-90's in some of the other Canon materials.

Per Tarkin and some of the other novels, the Empire makes use of CR-90 Corvettes in its navy. they show up mostly in the novels set in the earlier days of the empire, so i'd guess that the Republic Navy had been buying militarized CR-90's in the tail end of the Clone Wars (probably to replace the c20 refit Consular class ships used in the earlier days of the war) and the Empire continued to use them.

Good to know. Now those who want the CR-90 to be an Imperial ship as well have some ammunition. Still nothing about Nebulon-B's being anything other than rebel ships though.

36 minutes ago, Drasnighta said:

But what if the intention is to have them different as well - to have different armaments and arcs of fire, upgrade bars and such?

That'd necesstate ship tokens and cards.

Then they'll release new ship tokens and cards.

An upgrade only needs to restrict itself to a specific ship type, and at its most technical say "treat this ship as though it had a (faction) symbol instead of the symbol printed on the card."

Just now, thecactusman17 said:

Then they'll release new ship tokens and cards.

An upgrade only needs to restrict itself to a specific ship type, and at its most technical say "treat this ship as though it had a (faction) symbol instead of the symbol printed on the card."

If that is how the Rule is intended to work.

It is wholly insufficient for the assumption that you first must select a ship, and then upgrade cards for it, as can be implied from the rules as they are.

You must first select A ship. Not each ship. Add far as I can tell there is nothing preventing you from buying a flotilla and then the upgrade.

7 minutes ago, thecactusman17 said:

You must first select A ship. Not each ship. Add far as I can tell there is nothing preventing you from buying a flotilla and then the upgrade.

No, but its not explicitly permissed either.

So in which case, I took the time to look at the wording of the rulebook - that is what has flavoured my stance on the subject.

Which is:

The only view we have is that Upgrades are purchased for ships. Upgrades are not purchased in a vacuum. They are purchased and equipped to ships. Ergo, the ship must come first.

In the Corellian Conflict, we got a specific rule that allowed us to detach an upgrade from a ship and leave it hanging. If that was the intention of the base rules, it would not need to be clarified in the Conflict Rules.

Is it definitive eitehr way? No.

And as I have said many times - I'm not against the concept of it. Its just not something simple to do, without errata. Or more explanations.

It's a simple errata change though. Just change the wording to state that the status of legal ships and upgrades isn't checked until the setup phase. Done.

Also, I point out that the RRG explicitly states that upgrade cards which violate the normal rules are to be used instead when they would violate the normal rules in the RRG.

Its still a hell of a chicken/egg scenario.

ESPECIALLY in the suite of a Title Card, which even specifies it needs the matching.

And its not Violate, its Contradict. There's a big difference there

I HAVE A THEORY NOT RELATED TO GETTING A REBEL QUASAR IN AN IMPERIAL EXPANSION PACK!

So I think the blue/red dice only HH has 2 squadron. It will then give the rebels a cheaper Flight controllers option at the expense of durability.

On 16/3/2017 at 1:36 AM, BrobaFett said:

So far each wave after the first has introduced to us something new- Wave 2 was Rogue, Wave 3 was Fleet Support, Wave 4 was Experimental, Wave 5 was Fleet Command.

Wave 6 has brought us the two-slot upgrade, but when I looked at the reveal a second time I noticed a trend in them. They each had titles obscured or face down, the hammerhead had what appeared to be 4 ship cards and an extra stack of upgrades. It got me thinking, 'What do these ships have in common with each other that no other ships so far do, and could make for an interesting rule for Armada.'

Then it hit me that obviously both of these ships were stolen by the Phoenix Rebels in the show.

This leads me to theorize that the third non-unique hammerhead title is one that will allow the Imperials to run them, and the face down Quasar Fire Title is the Quasar Fire that let's a single copy be fielded by a Rebel player. Maybe that stack of 5 face down upgrades in the Hammerhead reveal and 2 un-pictured upgrade cards in the Quasar Fire reveal will be a set of unique cross faction upgrades they are saving for later as a surprise. Maybe that is also why the Hammerhead is shown with 4 ship cards.

Anyway, that is my theory and my evidence. Is it likely? Am I crazy? Would it be exciting if both these ships were cross-faction, or is it a mistake to blend factions putting us in a scenario where we could end up with some weird mirror match of Hammerheads and Quasar Fires with one being supported by X-Wings and the other by Tie Fighters. Did you totally see this right away and I am the crazy one for stating the obvious?

That would be just awesome because rebeles are in much more need of a carrier of that type than the empire does. Besides, we already play every mirror lists, specially the empire, a single cross-faction quasar would not make such an impact. Not to mention the thematic background. But hey, kallus is not following the thematic background is he?, He should be rebel and read: At the start of the first command phase choose an enemy ship that has no officer slot or support slot occupied, assign this card to that ship. That ship discards a defense token of your choosing.

Now that would be thematic.