5 hours ago, sonovabith said:

I guess the words "super laser" just make me a little jittery.

Remember that the stats for this ship were determined a very long time ago. The comic the ship comes from is literally almost 25 years old, and the Dark Empire Sourcebook where the hard numbers came from was published in 1993. If you want to blame someone for its silliness, blame the original creators...

4 hours ago, Jon D said:

Assuming it's not accompanied by a support fleet and you can handle the obscene number of fighters, just sit behind the bugger and pound the engines.

You mean where the 100 aft heavy turbolaser batteries, 25 aft twin heavy laser cannons, and 5 aft tractor beams are still able to get at you?

Also, if anything 700 fighters is a tiny number for a ship this big. A hangar for 72 TIE fighters is not actually that big, to the point where it's essentially a greeble on ships above 5 km in length. Fractalsponge made one for the Assertor-class project (remember, he's the original designer of the thing, his art is what the ship really looks like and not fanart), and ended up putting 24 of them on the ship to make it look less bare inside the hangar bay cavities - plus other larger hangars with room for even more TIEs. Just through those, it has enough space to carry 1728 fighters, and it's probably actually more given that the ship has more and bigger hangars beyond the standard 72-fighter ones.

The Executor for example has much more room to stick hangar bays into than the Assertor class...

On 3/17/2017 at 6:12 PM, Winchester3 said:

Remember that the stats for this ship were determined a very long time ago. The comic the ship comes from is literally almost 25 years old, and the Dark Empire Sourcebook where the hard numbers came from was published in 1993. If you want to blame someone for its silliness, blame the original creators...

You mean where the 100 aft heavy turbolaser batteries, 25 aft twin heavy laser cannons, and 5 aft tractor beams are still able to get at you?

Also, if anything 700 fighters is a tiny number for a ship this big. A hangar for 72 TIE fighters is not actually that big, to the point where it's essentially a greeble on ships above 5 km in length. Fractalsponge made one for the Assertor-class project (remember, he's the original designer of the thing, his art is what the ship really looks like and not fanart), and ended up putting 24 of them on the ship to make it look less bare inside the hangar bay cavities - plus other larger hangars with room for even more TIEs. Just through those, it has enough space to carry 1728 fighters, and it's probably actually more given that the ship has more and bigger hangars beyond the standard 72-fighter ones.

The Executor for example has much more room to stick hangar bays into than the Assertor class...

Compared to the number of weapon systems available to the Eclipse, riding it's ass and only having a hundred batteries abd assorted weapons to deal with us still the better plan.

Even when you're using minion rules to quarter the number of weapons firing, even a Victory class is too clumbersome to use in actual combat. It's not even an issue of 'can the party actually destroy this', it's a matter that a single round of combat would take up an entire session.

40 minutes ago, Enjeryuu said:

Even when you're using minion rules to quarter the number of weapons firing, even a Victory class is too clumbersome to use in actual combat. It's not even an issue of 'can the party actually destroy this', it's a matter that a single round of combat would take up an entire session.

Or you get a program that can resolve all of those rolls with only a few clicks.

Or you use the barrage rules...

On 16/3/2017 at 2:48 AM, HappyDaze said:

Dark Empire. The really stupid post-Endor crapsack that only now is beginning to look good in comparison to TFA's craptastic timeline of alternative facts.

I can not believe that I got to the point when I say "Dark Empire is not so bad after all"