1 minute ago, starbat861 said:

well the mc80s are 400m away from the isd and the allegiance is 600m away from the isd. it is still in possibility and would be cool if not the allegiance maybe the tector

And the ISD model is already a fairly hefty chunk of plastic. FFG would need an astoundingly good reason to make something that is EVEN BIGGER, due to the financial considerations that I mentioned earlier. X-Wing can get away with piles of weird corner cases plucked from the depths of the Legends lore, since they are much, much smaller & cheaper models, and thus easier for general consumers to justify in picking one up to play around with.

We can get stars in our eyes all we like about what we would like to see in the game, but at the very end of the day, FFG is a business, and needs to be certain that any new release it makes will end up making more money than it cost to produce. A very large and expensive model that does not have broad, widespread appeal is a massive risk that I cannot see as a viable option over far safer bets such as the Tector and the ever-popular Venator, both of which are fully canon.

I'd say that the Venator holds more of that appeal than the Tector does, as it is a more immediately-recognizable design than a modified ISD hull - and thus it holds my vote for the next large-base Imperial ship we will see, regardless of what the contents of wave 7 end up actually being.

Just now, Diabloelmo said:

And the ISD model is already a fairly hefty chunk of plastic. FFG would need an astoundingly good reason to make something that is EVEN BIGGER, due to the financial considerations that I mentioned earlier. X-Wing can get away with piles of weird corner cases plucked from the depths of the Legends lore, since they are much, much smaller & cheaper models, and thus easier for general consumers to justify in picking one up to play around with.

We can get stars in our eyes all we like about what we would like to see in the game, but at the very end of the day, FFG is a business, and needs to be certain that any new release it makes will end up making more money than it cost to produce. A very large and expensive model that does not have broad, widespread appeal is a massive risk that I cannot see as a viable option over far safer bets such as the Tector and the ever-popular Venator, both of which are fully canon.

I'd say that the Venator holds more of that appeal than the Tector does, as it is a more immediately-recognizable design than a modified ISD hull - and thus it holds my vote for the next large-base Imperial ship we will see, regardless of what the contents of wave 7 end up actually being.

the venator would be medium and the tector be like a more ship combat based isd with more hull

5 minutes ago, starbat861 said:

the venator would be medium and the tector be like a more ship combat based isd with more hull

Why would the Venator be medium? It's bigger than the Interdictor, and that thing was already pushing the boundaries of what is reasonable for a medium-based ship should be. And I wasn't talking roles, since a pure battleship is exactly what the Tector is, but rather the likelihood of what upcoming ships would be based on what makes the most sense from a business perspective.

1 minute ago, Diabloelmo said:

Why would the Venator be medium? It's bigger than the Interdictor, and that thing was already pushing the boundaries of what is reasonable for a medium-based ship could be. And I wasn't talking roles, since a pure battleship is exactly what the Tector is, but rather the likelihood of what upcoming ships would be based on what makes the most sense from a business perspective.

its not bigger its the same size

5 minutes ago, starbat861 said:

the venator would be medium and the tector be like a more ship combat based isd with more hull

There is no way in Hades that the Venator will be medium. It is literally 45 meters (4% of its total length) shorter than either mc80, and it is significantly more massive.

Just now, Onidsen said:

There is no way in Hades that the Venator will be medium. It is literally 45 meters (4% of its total length) shorter than either mc80, and it is significantly more massive.

so is the interdictor and that was medium. they are literally the same length

1 minute ago, starbat861 said:

its not bigger its the same size

You keep saying that. The best analysis (see: Drasnighta above) puts it at 1000m, which is 155m shorter than the Venator and 200m shorter than the mc80

Just now, starbat861 said:

so is the interdictor and that was medium. they are literally the same length

Where are you getting the information that they are the same size?

Just now, Onidsen said:

Where are you getting the information that they are the same size?

Diabloelmo is the one saying that

Just now, starbat861 said:

its not bigger its the same size

Have you got something to back that up? The approximated length of the Interdictor IIRC sits at a shade over 1000m - and approximate values are all we have, since we have not been given a canon length as of yet - while the Venator is 1145m. And as mentioned above, it's more massive than the large-based MC80 while only being a negligible 45m shorter.

Just now, Diabloelmo said:

Have you got something to back that up? The approximated length of the Interdictor IIRC sits at a shade over 1000m - and approximate values are all we have, since we have not been given a canon length as of yet - while the Venator is 1145m. And as mentioned above, it's more massive than the large-based MC80 while only being a negligible 45m shorter.

you where the one who said it was 1155

Just now, starbat861 said:

you where the one who said it was 1155

I said the Venator was - oops, I typo'd it to being 1145 in that quoted post. The Interdictor, on the other hand, is most certainly not!

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Interdictor_cruiser

Just now, Diabloelmo said:

I said the Venator was - oops, I typo'd it to being 1145 in that quoted post. The Interdictor, on the other hand, is most certainly not!

it says it is close to the isd in length

1 minute ago, starbat861 said:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Interdictor_cruiser

it says it is close to the isd in length

That is a completely non-canon source, using incredibly vague language, referencing Legends material.

For a better reference, watch the last couple of episodes of the Rebels cartoon. It actually shows ISDs and Interdictors side-by-side, and the size difference is substantial. The approximate value of 1000m looks to be pretty well smack bang on.

Just now, Diabloelmo said:

That is a completely non-canon source, using incredibly vague language, referencing Legends material.

For a better reference, watch the last couple of episodes of the Rebels cartoon. It actually shows ISDs and Interdictors side-by-side, and the size difference is substantial. The approximate value of 1000m looks to be pretty well smack bang on.

ok

Well if Disney allowed it, FFG could slow munch their way through all the old legend and new canon ships, then there would be material enough for for them to last a decade or more of waves

But if they are forced to only stick with the new canon, then FFG will only be able to milk half the cow

18 minutes ago, Kiwi Rat said:

Well if Disney allowed it, FFG could slow munch their way through all the old legend and new canon ships, then there would be material enough for for them to last a decade or more of waves

But if they are forced to only stick with the new canon, then FFG will only be able to milk half the cow

The most recent fighter pack used Legends material, and X-Wing is still awash with it. I suspect that while there is a preference to use canon ships where appropriate, there is nothing stopping FFG from dipping into older material.

Just now, Diabloelmo said:

The most recent fighter pack used Legends material, and X-Wing is still awash with it. I suspect that while there is a preference to use canon ships where appropriate, there is nothing stopping FFG from dipping into older material.

Its the last Im hoping for, I want my AF1

I hope eventually that the Rebs also get a 9 or more hull ship.

And that we will see the first 6 shield in one hull zone ship, don't care if its Imperial or Rebel

1 hour ago, Kiwi Rat said:

I hope eventually that the Rebs also get a 9 or more hull ship.

And that we will see the first 6 shield in one hull zone ship, don't care if its Imperial or Rebel

Maybe the MC75 for 9 hull? It fought off 2 ISDs and was only disabled by the 3rd. . .

39 minutes ago, ForceGhostofNobodyInParticular said:

Maybe the MC75 for 9 hull? It fought off 2 ISDs and was only disabled by the 3rd. . .

Would not fit the SW lore, since it was only from MC80B (Mon Remonda) and unwards that the big Mon Cal cruisers became thougher.

Anyhow that is my take on it

Just now, Kiwi Rat said:

Would not fit the SW lore, since it was only from MC80B (Mon Remonda) and unwards that the big Mon Cal cruisers became thougher.

Anyhow that is my take on it

Don't crush my dreams!

I agree. I do think though that it should get some defensive bonus for that feat.

1 minute ago, ForceGhostofNobodyInParticular said:

Don't crush my dreams!

I agree. I do think though that it should get some defensive bonus for that feat.

It should most likely have four defence tokens, soa title that give it a fifth defense token?

2 minutes ago, Kiwi Rat said:

It should most likely have four defence tokens, soa title that give it a fifth defense token?

Oh, that'd be nice, though by the layout of the cards, it seems like 4 is the max any ship can have. . . maybe a really good defensive suite, like 2 braces and 2 redirects? Maybe a cheap (1 point?) non-unique title that allows contains to stop all affects (giving it DCOs for much less)?

Something defensive, so either something similar to the above, or maybe 2 defensive slots (though that's minor, as the HMC80 already has it)?

1 hour ago, ForceGhostofNobodyInParticular said:

Oh, that'd be nice, though by the layout of the cards, it seems like 4 is the max any ship can have. . . maybe a really good defensive suite, like 2 braces and 2 redirects? Maybe a cheap (1 point?) non-unique title that allows contains to stop all affects (giving it DCOs for much less)?

Something defensive, so either something similar to the above, or maybe 2 defensive slots (though that's minor, as the HMC80 already has it)?

Maybe two offensive slots, so the Rebs also has such a platform