22 hours ago, Kiwi Rat said:

AF1

That's all I have to say about the next rebel medium ship

I think that thing is quite ugly.

1 hour ago, TallGiraffe said:

I think that thing is quite ugly.

Yes...and the 2.0 version continued the trend

5 minutes ago, Kiwi Rat said:

Yes...and the 2.0 version continued the trend

I like it more than the dreadnought with an evil goatee and big fish tail.

maybe in rebel thrawns isd will be destroyed and he will get the chimera 2 being an allegiance class star destroyer. it will give them an excuse to add the alliagance or it could be a tector. Either way it gives us another large empire and the mc75 could be the medium d-caps the rebels want

considering we got squadrons in wave 1 & 5 I could see them turning up in wave 9. i'm guessing a wave 7 announcement in august with a release sometime around the release of the last jedi in theaters.

as for the wave 7 release:

the Empire: Vindicator Class I and II

Dreadnought Class or

Gozanti Flotilla 2 (scout/comm & transport)

The Rebellion: Dreadnought Class

DP-20 Flotilla (Gunship & scout/raider)

(3rd faction: Dreadnought Class)

(Marauder Class Corvette (strike & missile)

(DP-20 Flotilla [gunship & raider])

the 3rd faction is just wishful thinking.

Bring back the Venator! (Imperial paint scheme)

4 hours ago, Shadow345 said:

Bring back the Venator! (Imperial paint scheme)

This is my vote, I find it far more likely than something like the Allegiance - it's both too darn big and was *barely* even canon in the EU.

While I would like the Dreadnought, I really can't see FFG deciding to go the dual-faction route with the ship - they have tried pretty hard thus far to keep both factions distinct, so giving both Imperials and Rebels the same ship would defeat the purpose. Instead, I think they may instead give the Dreadnought to the Imperials and the AF1 to the Rebels in the same wave. Both would likely be fairly similar in the "jack of all trades" route, but maintain enough differences to keep them separate. Mind, this would be for a later wave - the next one is almost certainly to include the MC-75 for the Rebels!

12 hours ago, TallGiraffe said:

I like it more than the dreadnought with an evil goatee and big fish tail.

This is one of the reasons I like the AF1, with need more evil goatee and big fish tail ships for the Rebels

You know, there is the twin-chin AF1 that looks like a Neb-B's big brother. The Rebs could use A Medium Lancer with max fire out the front.

Honestly, I think the AF1 would look good next to the Neb-B and MC-75

I honestly can't see the Venator being in the next wave. It's such a fighter heavy ship it would make the quasar seem redundant.

10 hours ago, Diabloelmo said:

This is my vote, I find it far more likely than something like the Allegiance - it's both too darn big and was *barely* even canon in the EU.

While I would like the Dreadnought, I really can't see FFG deciding to go the dual-faction route with the ship - they have tried pretty hard thus far to keep both factions distinct, so giving both Imperials and Rebels the same ship would defeat the purpose. Instead, I think they may instead give the Dreadnought to the Imperials and the AF1 to the Rebels in the same wave. Both would likely be fairly similar in the "jack of all trades" route, but maintain enough differences to keep them separate. Mind, this would be for a later wave - the next one is almost certainly to include the MC-75 for the Rebels!

the game has been taken over by small ships and flotillas which brought the activation bar from 3 all the way to 5. bring back big ships and also the empire has only one large ship and the rebels have 2. not fitting for the imperials.

4 hours ago, GrandAdmiralCrunch said:

You know, there is the twin-chin AF1 that looks like a Neb-B's big brother. The Rebs could use A Medium Lancer with max fire out the front.

looks like a neb-b2

3 minutes ago, starbat861 said:

the game has been taken over by small ships and flotillas which brought the activation bar from 3 all the way to 5. bring back big ships and also the empire has only one large ship and the rebels have 2. not fitting for the imperials.

Yea but that one large is the Imperial class Star Destroyer. They don't need another large.

Just now, starbat861 said:

the game has been taken over by small ships and flotillas which brought the activation bar from 3 all the way to 5. bring back big ships and also the empire has only one large ship and the rebels have 2. not fitting for the imperials.

Indeed - which is why I am hoping for the Venator at large and the MC-75 at medium. By "too large" in regards to the Allegiance, I was referring to the whopping great 2200m length of the thing, a full kilometer longer than the ISD. Even with FFG's scaling, that would be a monsterous and quite unwieldy miniature, and quite possibly too large for the "Large" category

55 minutes ago, TallGiraffe said:

Yea but that one large is the Imperial class Star Destroyer. They don't need another large.

more options is better and would be cool if it got a tittle to give it a third attack so it could pop tons of small ships

56 minutes ago, Diabloelmo said:

Indeed - which is why I am hoping for the Venator at large and the MC-75 at medium. By "too large" in regards to the Allegiance, I was referring to the whopping great 2200m length of the thing, a full kilometer longer than the ISD. Even with FFG's scaling, that would be a monsterous and quite unwieldy miniature, and quite possibly too large for the "Large" category

no the mc80s are 1200m to my knowledge and the isd is 1600. it would not be too long and could fit. also the venator was smaller than the interdictor

57 minutes ago, starbat861 said:

no the mc80s are 1200m to my knowledge and the isd is 1600. it would not be too long and could fit. also the venator was smaller than the interdictor

The allegiance isn't canon anymore (thank heavens for Disney! The proliferation of ever-larger star destroyer types was one of the most ridiculous parts of the old EU), and I'd rather not have any further non canon ships in the game.

The Venator is 50m shorter than the mc80 liberty. At 1155 meters, it would be ridiculous to be a medium ship. The Interdictor was 900m, IIRC. If you want to assert that it was larger than the Venator, I will need actual cited sources (non - legends!) for that argument to have any sort of credibility.

Also, I really don't think that the mc75 is a good fit for a medium ship. It would be a very large stretch for that, and I feel that arguments in favor of a medium mc75 are driven more by a desire for another medium ship than by fidelity to the source material. Even more so with arguments that the Venator should be a medium ship.

1 minute ago, Onidsen said:

The allegiance isn't canon anymore (thank heavens for Disney! The proliferation of ever-larger star destroyer types was one of the most ridiculous parts of the old EU), and I'd rather not have any further non canon ships in the game.

The Venator is 50m shorter than the mc80 liberty. At 1155 meters, it would be ridiculous to be a medium ship. The Interdictor was 900m, IIRC. If you want to assert that it was larger than the Venator, I will need actual cited sources (non - legends!) for that argument to have any sort of credibility.

Also, I really don't think that the mc75 is a good fit for a medium ship. It would be a very large stretch for that, and I feel that arguments in favor of a medium mc75 are driven more by a desire for another medium ship than by fidelity to the source material. Even more so with arguments that the Venator should be a medium ship.

the interdictor in cannon is barely smaller than the isd and maybe thrawn gets a prototype resurgent class

12 minutes ago, starbat861 said:

the interdictor in cannon is barely smaller than the isd and maybe thrawn gets a prototype resurgent class

Citation please. You are making an assertion with no evidence.

And there is no way that thrawn gets a prototype resurgent. Because the writers of star wars rebels actually care about writing a good story. And because the lucasfilm story group cares about continuity, and actually looks at the implications of their decisions.

Just now, Onidsen said:

Citation please. You are making an assertion with no evidence.

And there is no way that thrawn gets a prototype resurgent. Because the writers of star wars rebels actually care about writing a good story. And because the lucasfilm story group cares about continuity, and actually looks at the implications of their decisions.

it was a theory of mine that he would get an allegiance class after the chimera was destroyed and since people for some reason don't like the allegiance i suggested the resurgent

15 minutes ago, Onidsen said:

Citation please. You are making an assertion with no evidence.

On regards to the Interdictor (and this is on Starwars.com, so it is Canon information) :

http://www.starwars.com/tv-shows/star-wars-rebels/stealth-strike-trivia-gallery



"The Interdictor design in this episode is much larger than what was originally posited in the Legends description of this vehicle, suggesting this is a more powerful model than previous depictions."

I don't recall the exact figures, but someone on the forums did a size comparison and worked out that the Interdictor's size, came out to a shade over 1000m. Silly large for a medium, but then FFG seems to use more metrics for determining base size than simply hull length - part of which I suspect being that they didn't want to allow Motti to provide 3 extra hull, or allow something that can get full tractor-beam effects on all targets *twice*.

At 1155m, the Venator is all of 45m shorter than the MC80, and so well within the realms of being a large-base ship. It's also such a **** pretty-looking ship!

6 minutes ago, starbat861 said:

it was a theory of mine that he would get an allegiance class after the chimera was destroyed and since people for some reason don't like the allegiance i suggested the resurgent

A couple of issues with that - first, the Resurgent is a design that came along rather later than the period of the Galactic Civil War in which Armada is set, and *much* later than the approximate 2-3 BBY setting of Rebels. FFG has shown zero indication whatsoever that they desire to step into the TFA period, which is a choice I really hope that they continue to make and do not get pressured into by the Disney overlords.

Secondly, if the Allegiance is probably too large for a large-base ship, then the Resurgent is most *certainly* too big. I'm not really a supporter of the "epic-scale" idea that is constantly floating about with people wanting a Super Star Destroyer, since to make any of these vessels remotely playable they would need to be scaled down pretty dramatically - the same concept applies.

It's not that I have anything against the Allegiance-class in particular, by the way, but it is a design that is fairly close to the bottom of the barrel that FFG would even consider scraping for a new wave - very low Legends presence, a large and expensive model that is unlikely to sell well due to the aforementioned lack of exposure, and plenty of far more juicy options for big Imperial ships such as the canonical Tector and Venator. I certainly cannot see the writers of Rebels to suddenly decide that the Allegiance needs to be brought into the new canon, either - they (and Disney as a whole) have been *very* selective in what they do and don't cherry-pick out of Legends material, and so would need a pretty good reason to canonize it.

I'm fairly sure "Because it looks cool" isn't justification enough, either!

21 minutes ago, Diabloelmo said:

I don't recall the exact figures, but someone on the forums did a size comparison and worked out that the Interdictor's size, came out to a shade over 1000m. Silly large for a medium, but then FFG seems to use more metrics for determining base size than simply hull length - part of which I suspect being that they didn't want to allow Motti to provide 3 extra hull, or allow something that can get full tractor-beam effects on all targets *twice*.

At 1155m, the Venator is all of 45m shorter than the MC80, and so well within the realms of being a large-base ship. It's also such a **** pretty-looking ship!

A couple of issues with that - first, the Resurgent is a design that came along rather later than the period of the Galactic Civil War in which Armada is set, and *much* later than the approximate 2-3 BBY setting of Rebels. FFG has shown zero indication whatsoever that they desire to step into the TFA period, which is a choice I really hope that they continue to make and do not get pressured into by the Disney overlords.

Secondly, if the Allegiance is probably too large for a large-base ship, then the Resurgent is most *certainly* too big. I'm not really a supporter of the "epic-scale" idea that is constantly floating about with people wanting a Super Star Destroyer, since to make any of these vessels remotely playable they would need to be scaled down pretty dramatically - the same concept applies.

It's not that I have anything against the Allegiance-class in particular, by the way, but it is a design that is fairly close to the bottom of the barrel that FFG would even consider scraping for a new wave - very low Legends presence, a large and expensive model that is unlikely to sell well due to the aforementioned lack of exposure, and plenty of far more juicy options for big Imperial ships such as the canonical Tector and Venator. I certainly cannot see the writers of Rebels to suddenly decide that the Allegiance needs to be brought into the new canon, either - they (and Disney as a whole) have been *very* selective in what they do and don't cherry-pick out of Legends material, and so would need a pretty good reason to canonize it.

I'm fairly sure "Because it looks cool" isn't justification enough, either!

well the mc80s are 400m away from the isd and the allegiance is 600m away from the isd. it is still in possibility and would be cool if not the allegiance maybe the tector

16 minutes ago, Diabloelmo said:

I don't recall the exact figures, but someone on the forums did a size comparison and worked out that the Interdictor's size, came out to a shade over 1000m. Silly large for a medium, but then FFG seems to use more metrics for determining base size than simply hull length - part of which I suspect being that they didn't want to allow Motti to provide 3 extra hull, or allow something that can get full tractor-beam effects on all targets *twice*.

At 1155m, the Venator is all of 45m shorter than the MC80, and so well within the realms of being a large-base ship. It's also such a **** pretty-looking ship!

A couple of issues with that - first, the Resurgent is a design that came along rather later than the period of the Galactic Civil War in which Armada is set, and *much* later than the approximate 2-3 BBY setting of Rebels. FFG has shown zero indication whatsoever that they desire to step into the TFA period, which is a choice I really hope that they continue to make and do not get pressured into by the Disney overlords.

Secondly, if the Allegiance is probably too large for a large-base ship, then the Resurgent is most *certainly* too big. I'm not really a supporter of the "epic-scale" idea that is constantly floating about with people wanting a Super Star Destroyer, since to make any of these vessels remotely playable they would need to be scaled down pretty dramatically - the same concept applies.

It's not that I have anything against the Allegiance-class in particular, by the way, but it is a design that is fairly close to the bottom of the barrel that FFG would even consider scraping for a new wave - very low Legends presence, a large and expensive model that is unlikely to sell well due to the aforementioned lack of exposure, and plenty of far more juicy options for big Imperial ships such as the canonical Tector and Venator. I certainly cannot see the writers of Rebels to suddenly decide that the Allegiance needs to be brought into the new canon, either - they (and Disney as a whole) have been *very* selective in what they do and don't cherry-pick out of Legends material, and so would need a pretty good reason to canonize it.

I'm fairly sure "Because it looks cool" isn't justification enough, either!

You say it so much more eloquently! That's exactly what I was getting at.

20 minutes ago, Drasnighta said:

On regards to the Interdictor (and this is on Starwars.com, so it is Canon information) :

http://www.starwars.com/tv-shows/star-wars-rebels/stealth-strike-trivia-gallery



"The Interdictor design in this episode is much larger than what was originally posited in the Legends description of this vehicle, suggesting this is a more powerful model than previous depictions."

That's the best source I was ever able to find. It's certainly larger than the 600m immobilizer cruiser, but I hadn't found official hard numbers on it. 900m was my recollection of the best guess, but it could maybe be 1000m. Eventually we'll have a Star Wars: Rebels sourcebook that gives us official dimensions on it.

My sense is that the Interdictor is on the very largest edge of a medium ship.