Why don't think outside the box: Golan space defense platform (for both sides)

With new rules regarding objectives: Other player automatic has initiative. If both want to play a space station ...

i don't know, but, hey, that's FFG's job!

Commercially I would say the Venator and the MC75 make sense... but they might feel a bit redundant with the VSD and the MC80s. Not that there isn't terrain for new additions, but it would be cool to see a different type of ship.

I don't care what there is, as long as they give me a Thrawn worthy of its reputation and capabilities with a cool ship and a Chimaera title as an extra

Either another campaign with new squads for scum and villainy and squad pack 2 or a ship yard pack with more titles.

21 minutes ago, melminiatures said:

Commercially I would say the Venator and the MC75 make sense... but they might feel a bit redundant with the VSD and the MC80s. Not that there isn't terrain for new additions, but it would be cool to see a different type of ship.

I think there is enough they can do to make those two ships unique enough, so that they are not clones of the existing ships. Venator can favor Broadside and MC75 can have a balance of 4 front and 4 on the sides.

5 minutes ago, chr335 said:

Either another campaign with new squads for scum and villainy and squad pack 3 or a ship yard pack with more titles.

FTFY I think I've seen enough squads for a few waves, I still haven't used Phantoms, Decimators, or Lancers, Gamma Squad, Jonus, or acouple of the others.

And I'd really like to see the Venator and MC-75 as the new wave. Just for the models, really. I don't know how they'd make the stats unique and not clashing with the VSD/MC80, as Mel mentioned, but still, the models . . .

3 minutes ago, Rune Taq said:

I think there is enough they can do to make those two ships unique enough, so that they are not clones of the existing ships. Venator can favor Broadside and MC75 can have a balance of 4 front and 4 on the sides.

Or the MC-75 could be a blue-dice only vessel that wants to take Disposable Capacitors!

8 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

Or the MC-75 could be a blue-dice only vessel that wants to take Disposable Capacitors!

Now you're thinking! As long as it's a medium ship which at 1200m is pushing it if MC80s are both 1200m as well... I would rather see it medium but think it's really a large to be consistent with the current scale.

5 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

Or the MC-75 could be a blue-dice only vessel that wants to take Disposable Capacitors!

As long as they find a way to make it medium and not a large based ship.

Just now, ninclouse2000 said:

As long as they find a way to make it medium and not a large based ship.

Yep. I direct you to this thread where we cook up some stats for it. The link leads to page 2, as that;s when the first full list of stats is posted.

11 minutes ago, Rune Taq said:

Now you're thinking! As long as it's a medium ship which at 1200m is pushing it if MC80s are both 1200m as well... I would rather see it medium but think it's really a large to consistent with the content scale.

I too think it likely to be large, based on its length. But I hope it's medium, both so that it can have the stats we laid out in the thread I posted above (not that it's likely to actually have those, but I mean I hope it's medium so we can at least have that dream. . .) and because the rebellion needs more medium ships. Furthermore, while it may be as long as 1200 meters, its total volume is much less than the MC80s (I think), so who knows? Maybe they'll drop it down a size because of that. . .

13 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

I too think it likely to be large, based on its length. But I hope it's medium, both so that it can have the stats we laid out in the thread I posted above (not that it's likely to actually have those, but I mean I hope it's medium so we can at least have that dream. . .) and because the rebellion needs more medium ships. Furthermore, while it may be as long as 1200 meters, its total volume is much less than the MC80s (I think), so who knows? Maybe they'll drop it down a size because of that. . .

This is the only argument I've heard that really makes sense. I don't know the volume but it doesn't seem that much smaller from the visual guide specs. But idk. I'd love to see a ligit side by side comparison.

9 hours ago, Rune Taq said:

This is the only argument I've heard that really makes sense. I don't know the volume but it doesn't seem that much smaller from the visual guide specs. But idk. I'd love to see a ligit side by side comparison.

Well it kind of tapers into a point at the end, for about 400 meters. So it's basically 800 meters long with roughly the same shape and size as an MC80, but the last 400 meters get progressively smaller. So that could be grounds for saying that since its main bulk is only 800 meter, it can be a medium base ship. Its kind of a weak argument, but it is somewhat valid. . .

The best comparison I can find is this:
Liberty v ISD
compared to this:
MC-75 v ISD

This makes them out to be the same length, but you can see how narrow the MC-75 gets.

5 hours ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

Well it kind of tapers into a point at the end, for about 400 meters. So it's basically 800 meters long with roughly the same shape and size as an MC80, but the last 400 meters get progressively smaller. So that could be grounds for saying that since its main bulk is only 800 meter, it can be a medium base ship. Its kind of a weak argument, but it is somewhat valid. . .

The best comparison I can find is this:
Liberty v ISD
compared to this:
MC-75 v ISD

This makes them out to be the same length, but you can see how narrow the MC-75 gets.

Thats funny. I posted that second pick. Find a top down view of the mc75. It's fairly wide still.

BTW I don't think it's a weak argument. I think it's a valuable spec to make the ship medium as long as the volume is actually smaller.

Okay, so I do need to make my Wave 7 prediction before it gets announced. (I'm feeling it; Wave 6 to come off the boat any moment now, and we need to start pining for the next wave before the current wave is even in our hands.)

I'll join the chorus for the MC-75 , and I'll say it should be large-base.

I think that FFG will have to hush up the complaining Imperials (yours truly included), who have a complaint to make about the Rebels having more large-base ships than the Empire (which is just perverse). Therefore, I'm going to go out on a limb and call/pray for the Executor -class Star Dreadnought .

Obviously, this has been the source of tremendous and continuous debate. There are many people who have offered good argument why it can't or shouldn't be done. (I remember debates about why X-Wing would never have a third faction, or how Rebellion would never get an expansion. It would be delicious if FFG made people swallow their words again.)

(Or, just maybe, the Pride of Tarlandia - discussion here .)

A dedicated 6x3 foot Armada mat

51 minutes ago, Mikael Hasselstein said:

Okay, so I do need to make my Wave 7 prediction before it gets announced. (I'm feeling it; Wave 6 to come off the boat any moment now, and we need to start pining for the next wave before the current wave is even in our hands.)

I'll join the chorus for the MC-75 , and I'll say it should be large-base.

I think that FFG will have to hush up the complaining Imperials (yours truly included), who have a complaint to make about the Rebels having more large-base ships than the Empire (which is just perverse). Therefore, I'm going to go out on a limb and call/pray for the Executor -class Star Dreadnought .

Obviously, this has been the source of tremendous and continuous debate. There are many people who have offered good argument why it can't or shouldn't be done. (I remember debates about why X-Wing would never have a third faction, or how Rebellion would never get an expansion. It would be delicious if FFG made people swallow their words again.)

(Or, just maybe, the Pride of Tarlandia - discussion here .)

The executor, unless it works dramatically differently then has been speculated, cant be the imperial half of a wave. They are already a ship down in terms of options for regular play.

I'm not saying the executor cant be coming down the pipe, but unless it fits reasonably into a 400 pt fleet there has to be another imperial offering to keep the playing field even.

33 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

The executor, unless it works dramatically differently then has been speculated, cant be the imperial half of a wave. They are already a ship down in terms of options for regular play.

I'm not saying the executor cant be coming down the pipe, but unless it fits reasonably into a 400 pt fleet there has to be another imperial offering to keep the playing field even.

Perhaps, but I've made my prediction and I'll stick with it.

Besides, I have my 'Pride of Tarlandia' back-up prediction.

Having canon looks for the Tector class and Pride of Tarlandia would be amazing.

The Tector may essentially be a regular ISD, but even in that frame there's a lot they can do to make it look distinct. Take the Enterprise-A and the Original Series Enterprise from Star Trek for instance. Practically the same ship and form work but very different.

I also wouldn't mind a model of a space station with new rules for stations.

1 minute ago, Forresto said:

Having canon looks for the Tector class and Pride of Tarlandia would be amazing.

The Tector may essentially be a regular ISD, but even in that frame there's a lot they can do to make it look distinct. Take the Enterprise-A and the Original Series Enterprise from Star Trek for instance. Practically the same ship and form work but very different.

The problem with the Tector as given is you could make a differnet model for it based on the original screenwork.

Its just the fact that all the changes are on the bottom and no-one would see it... Negating... all of the points, basically.

Its like having the USS Enterprise and any other Constellation-Class Cruiser. If you can't read the Designation, how can you tell them apart?

1 minute ago, Drasnighta said:

The problem with the Tector as given is you could make a differnet model for it based on the original screenwork.

Its just the fact that all the changes are on the bottom and no-one would see it... Negating... all of the points, basically.

Its like having the USS Enterprise and any other Constellation-Class Cruiser. If you can't read the Designation, how can you tell them apart?

Well my point is that all we know is there is no hanger and the ship looks pretty much exactly like an ISD. Devil's in the details and theres still room for it to look visually distinct. We've only seen the bottom on screen.

The Tector is a dedicated war ship, maybe it doesnt have shield balls on top. Maybe it has a thicker, more armored neck. Maybe it was designed to be completely armored in response to the ISDs slicing through each other in Rogue One so those stack of hull plates on top don't have exposed grueling on the side. Take the USS Voyager for instance.

Without Armor:

With Armor:

Just now, Forresto said:

Well my point is that all we know is there is no hanger and the ship looks pretty much exactly like an ISD. Devil's in the details and theres still room for it to look visually distinct. We've only seen the bottom on screen.

The Tector is a dedicated war ship, maybe it doesnt have shield balls on top. Maybe it has a thicker, more armored neck. Maybe it was designed to be completely armored in response to the ISDs slicing through each other in Rogue One so those stack of hull plates on top don't have exposed grueling on the side.

Then we start getting into the territory of "Why bother calling it a Tector at all then? "

You could just make up another name and go from there...

I don't disagree it has to be that different - it toally does. Just as is, just as accepted, its not different enough .

On 5/29/2017 at 5:35 PM, Rune Taq said:

Now you're thinking! As long as it's a medium ship which at 1200m is pushing it if MC80s are both 1200m as well... I would rather see it medium but think it's really a large to be consistent with the current scale.

I think the exact opposite.

Please make it large.

It's only 51m shy of the MC80 (large) length, while being 300m longer than the VSD (medium).

2 hours ago, Forresto said:

Well my point is that all we know is there is no hanger and the ship looks pretty much exactly like an ISD. Devil's in the details and theres still room for it to look visually distinct. We've only seen the bottom on screen.

The Tector is a dedicated war ship, maybe it doesnt have shield balls on top. Maybe it has a thicker, more armored neck. Maybe it was designed to be completely armored in response to the ISDs slicing through each other in Rogue One so those stack of hull plates on top don't have exposed grueling on the side. Take the USS Voyager for instance.

Without Armor:

With Armor:

...Voyager?

Endgame: AKA - this show has dragged on for too long...lets use the game shark and win