Wave 6!

By CaribbeanNinja, in Star Wars: Armada

i have sent links for blogs to him, but your blog hadnt come out at that time. i will send the link to him :)

Just now, geek19 said:

You are a good friend to be nice to him like that. Not to toot my own horn too much, but have you considered pointing him at our blog? Im really not trying to sound conceited, but @Snipafist and i have a bunch of articles and are focusing on helping new people learn.

http://cannotgetyourshipout.blogspot.com/?m=1

I have no affiliation and happily endorse their blog as a learning resource.

Just now, Kikaze said:

you WOULD be correct if there was a single 100% balanced game out there. but you cannot have 100% balanced, even chess is imbalanced (whites moving first).you can only have "acceptably balanced", which this game is.

I most certainly agree that this game is balanced. I also agree that no game is perfect. However I also think that balancing may have different levels of importance based on what it's meant to fix. Anyway, it hardly matters much, given that the game does not have the sort of issues (not that I know a game that does, or what they are) that would require such balancing.

1 minute ago, Madaghmire said:

I have no affiliation and happily endorse their blog as a learning resource.

Thanks! I always feel super self-conscious telling people to read us.

"Buy my book! Buy my book! Buy my book!"

yeah i've read it and actualy heavily consulted it once regarding Raider builds :P

5 minutes ago, geek19 said:

You are a good friend to be nice to him like that. Not to toot my own horn too much, but have you considered pointing him at our blog? Im really not trying to sound conceited, but @Snipafist and i have a bunch of articles and are focusing on helping new people learn.

http://cannotgetyourshipout.blogspot.com/?m=1

I would like this, but alas I have used my quota for the day. . .

4 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

I have no affiliation and happily endorse their blog as a learning resource.

Same as above. . .

In addition: I also endorse the blog. It is funny, and thus educational AND entertaining, which is hard to pull off.

2 hours ago, Tokra said:

But why would you spend a accuracy to spend a defense token, when you can spend the accuracy to prevent him from using the defense token and just kill the squadron :D .
I see more use against the double brace squadrons with the high hull. First Attack: you spend on of the defense tokens, he uses the second one. Second Attack: defense tokens are gone.

It is more interessting on squadrons with only a few dice, like the Jumpmaster. Eighter you are doing your 1-2 damage, or you spend at least one of the token.

Because getting rid of the scatter with the accuracy costs the exact same as preventing the defending squad from using it (it also forces the defender to think about losing it entirely by spending it as exhuasted), and then it can be used later to eliminate it entirely if you can't kill the squad in 2 attacks.

33 minutes ago, xerpo said:

Please dont misunderstand me, Im not saying is dead, im saying the Rebel faction is nearly to, Id like to see a poll topic on what faction flys usually everyone. My bets are 8/2 for the imps. Just saying.

This is from the most recent FFG Regional Tournaments. These ran during the January and February.

All Bottom 1/4 Top 1/2 Top 8 Top 4 Winners
Factions Rebels 50% 47% 56% 57% 59% 58%
Imperials 50% 53% 44% 43% 41% 42%

It was an even split of what showed up and Rebels did better overall than the Imperials.

In some areas it skews one way or the other, but overall which faction is flown is pretty even.

45 minutes ago, NobodyInParticular said:

Long live the JJ EL VIC 1!

EL?

1 minute ago, SoonerTed said:

EL?

Expanded Launchers

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9 minutes ago, shmitty said:

This is from the most recent FFG Regional Tournaments. These ran during the January and February.

All Bottom 1/4 Top 1/2 Top 8 Top 4 Winners
Factions Rebels 50% 47% 56% 57% 59% 58%
Imperials 50% 53% 44% 43% 41% 42%

It was an even split of what showed up and Rebels did better overall than the Imperials.

In some areas it skews one way or the other, but overall which faction is flown is pretty even.

HOLY CRAP IT WAS EXACTLY 50/50? Wait I must be reading that wrong. Am I?

2 minutes ago, NobodyInParticular said:

Expanded Launchers

Ah, if I'm only going with one upgrade on a gunship Vic1 I usualy go with Enhanced Armament. I don't want to have to depend on black range to deal damage from most arcs. (Opponents that want to get in close are the ones you don't want in close/can too easily flank you -cough- Admonition -cough-, but that has been my *limited* experience)

2 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

HOLY CRAP IT WAS EXACTLY 50/50? Wait I must be reading that wrong. Am I?

That's rounded to whole percentage points, so it's probably not exactly 50/50 (but it could be, since I don't see the raw numbers)

1 minute ago, SoonerTed said:

Ah, if I'm only going with one upgrade on a gunship Vic1 I usualy go with Enhanced Armament. I don't want to have to depend on black range to deal damage from most arcs. (Opponents that want to get in close are the ones you don't want in close/can too easily flank you -cough- Admonition -cough-, but that has been my *limited* experience)

I agree, if you only have 1 Vic. . . but a fleet with 3 or 4 could do really well with 'em.

1 minute ago, NobodyInParticular said:

I agree, if you only have 1 Vic. . . but a fleet with 3 or 4 could do really well with 'em.

My first round of CC I had 2 Vic 1's and 1 Vic 2, only one Vic had the Expanded Armament (the other Vic-I had the Dominator Title). The speedier rebel fleet was able to stay out of close-to-medium range the whole game, and the ship with the Expanded Armament actually posed the most threat (often surprising the opponent as he forgot that ship had the upgrade).

I'm not sold on the Expanded Launchers for the Vic1. I think ACM's are a better fit, especially if multiple ships take them.

18 minutes ago, shmitty said:

This is from the most recent FFG Regional Tournaments. These ran during the January and February.

All Bottom 1/4 Top 1/2 Top 8 Top 4 Winners
Factions Rebels 50% 47% 56% 57% 59% 58%
Imperials 50% 53% 44% 43% 41% 42%

It was an even split of what showed up and Rebels did better overall than the Imperials.

In some areas it skews one way or the other, but overall which faction is flown is pretty even.

By the way, my personal flawless data shows that the 42% Imperial winners are MUCH cooler guys than the 58% Rebel Scum winners.

1 minute ago, SoonerTed said:

My first round of CC I had 2 Vic 1's and 1 Vic 2, only one Vic had the Expanded Armament (the other Vic-I had the Dominator Title). The speedier rebel fleet was able to stay out of close-to-medium range the whole game, and the ship with the Expanded Armament actually posed the most threat (often surprising the opponent as he forgot that ship had the upgrade).

I'm not sold on the Expanded Launchers for the Vic1. I think ACM's are a better fit, especially if multiple ships take them.

Granted, APTs are generally my first choice for everything, but in a map set-up like the Raid Special Assault, (which can probably be imitated by the Vics making a gun line starting from a corner), the front arc is pretty much all the enemy should see. . . now, I don't own 4 Vics, and typically play as the Rebels, so I haven't tried this, it just SEEMS like a good, durable and dangerous idea.

2 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

By the way, my personal flawless data shows that the 42% Imperial winners are MUCH cooler guys than the 58% Rebel Scum winners.

Only because they are saving money by not turning on the heating.

Just now, NobodyInParticular said:

Granted, APTs are generally my first choice for everything, but in a map set-up like the Raid Special Assault, (which can probably be imitated by the Vics making a gun line starting from a corner), the front arc is pretty much all the enemy should see. . . now, I don't own 4 Vics, and typically play as the Rebels, so I haven't tried this, it just SEEMS like a good, durable and dangerous idea.

My rule of thumb for APTs vs ACMs. If you have a lot of ships in formation, go with ACMs. You deal more damage and the shields go down fast . If you have a quick flanking ship, go with APT. YMMV.

1 minute ago, SoonerTed said:

My rule of thumb for APTs vs ACMs. If you have a lot of ships in formation, go with ACMs. You deal more damage and the shields go down fast . If you have a quick flanking ship, go with APT. YMMV.

Good point. Usually if I have a ship with black dice, it's a Glad or MC30, so they flank and thus have APTs. I'll have to play a bit with ACMs though, 'cause they do seem pretty nasty, especially since I recently learned that the damage goes to hull if there are no shields (something I was initially unaware of). . .

1 hour ago, xerpo said:

1. Ive seen too many times a Gozanti double arc and kill a ship in turn 5-6.
2. Squadron 3 vs squadron 4 and will see, cant see your point here.
3. Seriously? Are you even trying to compare Demolisher with ... anything?
4. Arquitens is way more solid and sorry to tell you, but it is aswell a TRCArquitens.

In summary, both sides have good stuff only the imps have better stuff. I know, is thematic, cool, but Luke is not using the force in my games.
I do remmember the OP cry of the imperials, it was everywhere. Where is Sato now?

Please dont misunderstand me, Im not saying is dead, im saying the Rebel faction is nearly to, Id like to see a poll topic on what faction flys usually everyone. My bets are 8/2 for the imps. Just saying.

Proud Rebel player here, xerpo. I've played Rebel since launch and that will NOT be changing anytime soon.

2 hours ago, FourDogsInaHorseSuit said:

Yea, my B it's actually 17 at target and miniature market. Not really sure that was worth calling out twice, but thanks.

That's not retail though was the point and I have no idea why my posts have been going out two sometimes three time. So sorry about that

1 minute ago, Tirion said:

That's not retail though was the point and I have no idea why my posts have been going out two sometimes three time. So sorry about that

I think what everyone means is that you have to compare apples to apples. This price in the preview article is retail, so compare that price to MSRP of other products. At least, that is what I think people are saying.

So I guess the question now becomes (and I unfortunately think it won't be sorted out until the article for the Quesar comes out)....

WILL THE REAL SLOANE PLEASE STAND UP?!?!?!

2 minutes ago, RStan said:

So I guess the question now becomes (and I unfortunately think it won't be sorted out until the article for the Quesar comes out)....

WILL THE REAL SLOANE PLEASE STAND UP?!?!?!

*Next Sloane card says no bombers*