... are there any shenanigans you can do with it?

For example, could you do a 4 straight, get your evade action, Push the Limit for an additional action, then clear the stress and take your normal action? Any other interesting interactions?

1 minute ago, Herowannabe said:

... are there any shenanigans you can do with it?

For example, could you do a 4 straight, get your evade action, Push the Limit for an additional action, then clear the stress and take your normal action? Any other interesting interactions?

Doesn't work. You take the stress (or clear the stress) from a red or green maneuver as part of executing the maneuver. X7 gives a free action AFTER executing the maneuver. So if you PTL off of the free evade, it happens after you've already cleared stress, but bfeore your normal action. So you evade, ptl, get stress, then don't get your normal action because you're now stressed.

23 minutes ago, VanderLegion said:

...So you evade, ptl, get stress, then don't get your normal action because you're now stressed.

And if it worked differently (like the Sabine pilot or BB-8 ptl combos) it would have re-broke the card in a new way. One that required a bit more thought to avoid bumps but otherwise even worse than before.

9 minutes ago, VanderLegion said:

DarthHeath made a double post.

Darn.

Anything else you can trigger off of it being an action? I can't think of anything off the top of my head...

I'm going to have to disagree with the previous posters. "After the maneuver" is the same phrase used on S-loop Millennium Falcon and Kanan Jarus crew which are both used before check stress...

Edit: also see "Snap" Wexley

Well, you can use push the limit after the evade action even if you're skipping the perform actions phase, provided you're not forbidden from performing actions at all. The only situation I can think of where this is relevant is if you run over a Conner Net, but there might be other situations where X7 can trigger in spite of missing the perform action step.

Not really. If anything, they're also more vulnerable to Carnor Jax than they were before. Previously, you could still assign the token while within range 1 of him. Now that it's an action, that's off the table.

4 minutes ago, nitrobenz said:

I'm going to have to disagree with the previous posters. "After the maneuver" is the same phrase used on S-loop Millennium Falcon and Kanan Jarus crew...

Kanan and the S-Loop Falcon title both specifically trigger after you execute a white maneuver. But if you check the Rules Reference, "Check Pilot Stress" is specifically one of the steps in the "Activation Phase" rules under "Execute Your Maneuver." You don't get the evade action until after the execution is complete, which includes the "Check Pilot Stress" step that would allow you to remove stress tokens. The closer comparison would be the Dauntless title, which no longer allows you to immediately remove stress after you execute a green maneuver.

4 minutes ago, nitrobenz said:

I'm going to have to disagree with the previous posters. "After the maneuver" is the same phrase used on S-loop Millennium Falcon and Kanan Jarus crew which are both used before check stress...

Neither of those happen before you check for for stress.

9 minutes ago, nitrobenz said:

I'm going to have to disagree with the previous posters. "After the maneuver" is the same phrase used on S-loop Millennium Falcon and Kanan Jarus crew which are both used before check stress...

Edit: also see "Snap" Wexley

Snap's ability doesn't happen until after you'd normally receive your stress from a red maneuver either. He needs Pattern Analyzer or Primer Thrusters to get his free boost after pulling a K-Turn or T-Roll.

14 minutes ago, PhantomFO said:

The closer comparison would be the Dauntless title, which no longer allows you to immediately remove stress after you execute a green maneuver.

Wait, what? Dauntless specifies after executing a maneuver, stress would clear before it triggers, right?

5 minutes ago, RampancyTW said:

Wait, what? Dauntless specifies after executing a maneuver, stress would clear before it triggers, right?

Not anymore. It used to be that the "Check Pilot Stress" step came after the "Execute Your Maneuver" step, which is what allowed Oicunn to clear the stress of Dauntless. That changed with the Force Awakens core set. "Check Pilot Stress" is now built into executing maneuvers. Check page 4 of your Rules Reference, under step 2 of the Activation Phase.

The only synergy I've found is with Conner Net. If someone drops a Conner Net on Ryad (which makes her skip her Perform Action step), she could PTL off of the Evade action to make up for that lost action. The only problem is next round you're stressed and ioned, so it's not really a good combo.

53 minutes ago, PhantomFO said:

Not anymore. It used to be that the "Check Pilot Stress" step came after the "Execute Your Maneuver" step, which is what allowed Oicunn to clear the stress of Dauntless. That changed with the Force Awakens core set. "Check Pilot Stress" is now built into executing maneuvers. Check page 4 of your Rules Reference, under step 2 of the Activation Phase.

Ohhhhh. Gotcha. Didn't realize you were referring to clearing the trigger stress.

1 hour ago, PhantomFO said:

Not really. If anything, they're also more vulnerable to Carnor Jax than they were before. Previously, you could still assign the token while within range 1 of him. Now that it's an action, that's off the table.

Kanan and the S-Loop Falcon title both specifically trigger after you execute a white maneuver. But if you check the Rules Reference, "Check Pilot Stress" is specifically one of the steps in the "Activation Phase" rules under "Execute Your Maneuver." You don't get the evade action until after the execution is complete, which includes the "Check Pilot Stress" step that would allow you to remove stress tokens. The closer comparison would be the Dauntless title, which no longer allows you to immediately remove stress after you execute a green maneuver.

And there is where X-Wing MG got lost... :/

Good to know, I guess I was still using the pre-FA rules that @PhantomFO referred to (or some permutation)

The biggest advantage of the FAQ change change to the /x7 title is that I won't feel quite so dirty running them anymore.

10 hours ago, nitrobenz said:

I'm going to have to disagree with the previous posters. "After the maneuver" is the same phrase used on S-loop Millennium Falcon and Kanan Jarus crew which are both used before check stress...

No, they're not. They're explicitly AFTER check stress. Both of them.

28 minutes ago, thespaceinvader said:

No, they're not. They're explicitly AFTER check stress. Both of them.