Some pretty hard "fixes" came out in the most recent FAQ. Has FFG ever undone a FAQ "fix"?
Some pretty hard "fixes" came out in the most recent FAQ. Has FFG ever undone a FAQ "fix"?
There has been a 'rapid fix' whenever they make a huge wording mistake in the past, but as far as I know they have never undone an errata
Rulings yes, not errata.
R4 Agromech was reversed. But that was just a FAQ. Similarly Nightbeast and Dauntless have undergone changes, but again, those are FAQs. I don't know of an erratum reversal.
Hold today's FAQ up to a mirror.
QAF. Done.
wasnt Wampa ruled to require an uncancelled crit at one point and now its before any evade dice cancel the attack dice?
2 minutes ago, Vineheart01 said:wasnt Wampa ruled to require an uncancelled crit at one point and now its before any evade dice cancel the attack dice?
I don't believe so. It's possible general forum consensus thought that and was overturned by FAQ, but AFAIK Wampa has always worked the same way. (Crack Shot had a similar furor on release.)
I cant see a reason why they wouldnt.
If they are willing to errata, they shouldnt be against changing said errata to further balance the game, say, if it wasnt enough or was too much nerfing.
Heck, it is even easier to do because the section has already been put into the FAQ.
In the Star Wars card game they have had card combos on the restricted list that have later been removed, this is the closest I can think of in general.
Gonk?
Intepretations change. I don't think we've ever had a double errata.
Given getting errata through is a pain in the **** (apparently it even has to go through LFL) FFG are careful with the trigger. The designers wait a loooong time before making an errata change so they're fairly confident in them when they do.
If you're wondering if the four errataed cards might change further, maybe very slightly.
If you're wondering if they'll ever be restored to their previous state I wouldn't count on it.
Edited by Blue Fiveautoblasters used to be blocked by evade tokens via FAQ but then a later FAQ when they added the whole compare results step allowed autoblasters to ignore evade tokens as well.
As far as I know Crackshot was briefly changed and then reversed back.
Crackshot's timing was FAQ rather than errata and is a good example of a change they later reverted. Autoblaster was a one way change: it started blocked by evades and changed to bypass them when the intepretation of evade tokens changed.
Of course, if they'd written it "Crackshot" on the card, they may have issued erratum to the corrected "Crack Shot." (Luckily, they wrote "Crack Shot" from the beginning.)
14 minutes ago, Blue Five said:Autoblaster was a one way change: it started blocked by evades and changed to bypass them when the intepretation of evade tokens changed.
This one always bothered me, because the original rulebook never made it seem like evade tokens would block autoblaster hits. Dice never blocked hits and neither do evade tokens, only evade results do. Evade results come from dice and tokens equally. And in fact the rulebook said then when you choose to use an evade token, just put a die with the evade showing into the dice pool.
I campaigned hard that an evade token is no different from a die, and FFG finally realized it too.
1 hour ago, Jeff Wilder said:R4 Agromech was reversed. But that was just a FAQ. Similarly Nightbeast and Dauntless have undergone changes, but again, those are FAQs. I don't know of an erratum reversal.
Sort of. R4 Agromech+Blaster Turret was, from a strict reading of the rules, invalidated by the changes made by the TFA Rules revision. This is why the ruling regarding Dark Curse and Deadeye/Blaster Turret was updated at that time. However, nobody particularly cared about that because it was a niche ruling that wasn't hurting anything, so it was grandfathered in via neglect. It was only when that interaction started to cause problems that the ruling was corrected to be in line with the rest of the game.
Most reversals have come after rules updates (The TFA Rulebook and the Attack diagram are the main ones), but there have been a few eyebrow-raising rulings that were quickly reversed because they contradicted the rules reference (Autoblasters and Evade tokens, for instance). It's likely that these were errors by someone who wasn't actually in charge of making the rulings, just formatting the FAQ.
2 hours ago, Jeff Wilder said:R4 Agromech was reversed. But that was just a FAQ. Similarly Nightbeast and Dauntless have undergone changes, but again, those are FAQs. I don't know of an erratum reversal.
R4 was never reversed. It wasn't even errattad to change. It was just a victim of the changes to the timing rules in the TFA core set that no one ever actually noticed, and was hit officially when they added the timing chart.
2 hours ago, Blue Five said:Crackshot's timing was FAQ rather than errata and is a good example of a change they later reverted. Autoblaster was a one way change: it started blocked by evades and changed to bypass them when the intepretation of evade tokens changed.
No it was errata, but it was the start of when they started to be more acceptable of pen & ink changes. Now unlike a balance change it was more to bring it to working as intended much like the TIEx7 title errata. It still for the most part work the same way. Manaroo, Palpatine, even Heavy Scyk Interceptor, and Dead Eye. Those were clearly balance changes and not to bring the upgrade/pilot ability closer to its intended purpose.
I recall the Autoblaster/Ten ruling that allow Evade TOKENS to cancel certain attack dice were eventually reversed. They certainly weren't suddenly "clarified" to work a different way. That hasn't gone back so I don't know if we can say it was reversed after coming out.
A number of timing issues have changed but I'm not thinking of any that have changed back.
I'm trying to remember the specifics but I think Dark Curse may have gone through a couple iterations on how his ability is handled by various things. Thing is I'm not sure if any could be called specific reversals.
4 hours ago, Chief Hugh said:Some pretty hard "fixes" came out in the most recent FAQ. Has FFG ever undone a FAQ "fix"?
Intentional Draws.
Methinks this is wishful thinking
11 minutes ago, spacelion said:Intentional Draws.
Tournament regulations. Not FAQ / Errata.
Wasn't the Blaster Turret and Focus issue changed/resolved when using it vs some of the Imp pilots? At first you couldn't use it then you could and it was finally put in stone when ths Attack Flow Chart came out.
5 hours ago, StevenO said:I recall the Autoblaster/Ten ruling that allow Evade TOKENS to cancel certain attack dice were eventually reversed. They certainly weren't suddenly "clarified" to work a different way. That hasn't gone back so I don't know if we can say it was reversed after coming out.
A number of timing issues have changed but I'm not thinking of any that have changed back.
I'm trying to remember the specifics but I think Dark Curse may have gone through a couple iterations on how his ability is handled by various things. Thing is I'm not sure if any could be called specific reversals.
That was version 2.2 9/26/2014 when they changed to evade tokens no longer being allowed to cancel hit results from autoblasters. Prior to that evade tokens could cancel autoblaster hits. But then again these are all FAQ changes not erratas.
9 hours ago, Jeff Wilder said:R4 Agromech was reversed. But that was just a FAQ. Similarly Nightbeast and Dauntless have undergone changes, but again, those are FAQs. I don't know of an erratum reversal.
R4 Agromech although may have been intended to help scum y-wings with blaster turret an errata it was to the core rules not the upgrade card.