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This nerf doesn't make Palp less powerful

A nerf by definition makes him less powerful. If it didn't weaken him it wouldn't be a nerf.

Much like the TIE phantom nerf it forces him to act with a less information. You're correct in that were you to call your modifications perfectly he'd be just as effective. However that's not likely to happen.

3 hours ago, Nathan29292 said:

Ha! So I should not buy powerful cards or ships, in case they get nerfed. Great advice!

I don't get this attitude. If you only buy incredibly competitive, 'meta' ships and cards on the proviso that they are going to remain incredibly competitive ad infinitum then you're never going to buy anything. Everything comes in and out of favour and meta in any game.

You also missed his point - if something is absolutely dominating the competitive scene, to the point where you barely see anything else, maybe don't run off the assumption that it's going to stay that way indefinitely.

4 hours ago, Hepitude said:

This is horrible. Just... horrible.

So is the way FFG treats their customers with sales tactics like palpatine...

And this ladies, gentlemen, and wookiees, is why we do not base our purchases around net-listing.

5 minutes ago, NeverTellMeTheOdds said:

So is the way FFG treats their customers with sales tactics like palpatine...

You're equating actual theft to a business model you disagree with but clearly a majority of people are fine with. Yes, that seems reasonable in every way.

4 hours ago, Hepitude said:

This is horrible. Just... horrible.

So, I can't find the original post by @NeverTellMeTheOdds that you quoted. I guess he deleted it after he outed himself as a thief?

Because that is what you are dude. You are a thief and you really should feel some shame.

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Like I said before, I'd be pretty mad if I spent $100 on a ship just for a card (that FFG won't sell separately) just to have that card nerfed.

Why would you ever spend $100 for one card? It's not exactly vital to play the game.

Just now, Blue Five said:

Why would you ever spend $100 for one card? It's not exactly vital to play the game.

To people playing competitive it is... it wouldn't be vital if FFG were good at balance...

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To people playing competitive it is... it wouldn't be vital if FFG were good at balance...

If it were vital then every competitive win would be a PalpAces list, no? Looks to me like players not using Palpatine are doing just fine.

4 minutes ago, NeverTellMeTheOdds said:

To people playing competitive it is... it wouldn't be vital if FFG were good at balance...

Well then thank goodness FFG balanced it! Now nobody "has to" spend $100 on a ship to get one card.

The Palp nerf coupled with the C3PO promo release back in the day has made sure I will never buy an epic ship again. The epic format of the game is underdeveloped enough without the best cards getting devalued as well.

If you were buying Epic ships for the right reasons it wouldn't bother you: the Raider and CR90 have only ever received buffs. As I said before if this puts people off buying Epics for one or two standard cards, good. Can't fault them for encouraging better purchasing decisions. If people didn't buy ships for cards then there's a chance however slim that FFG might review their bundling approach.

What are the right reasons to buy the epic ships?

2 minutes ago, Sixter said:

What are the right reasons to buy the epic ships?

Uh... Not sure if you are trolling with this one, but I'll bite.

I'm gonna guess the right reason to buy an epic ship is to buy it for the epic ship.

2 minutes ago, Sixter said:

What are the right reasons to buy the epic ships?

1 minute ago, Sixter said:

What are the right reasons to buy the epic ships?

I once ran over Soontir Fel with the CR-90. I would have paid triple the price for that feeling, it was glorious.

No trolling intended. I just feel the epic format of the game is so underdeveloped that the epic ships themselves dont really justify their price. Curiously enough there is always a card or two included that are really desirable for the standard format so people tend to buy them for that purpose.

4 minutes ago, Sixter said:

What are the right reasons to buy the epic ships?

Because you want an epic ship? If you're buying a $100-130 expansion pack for a card you're possibly buying it for the wrong reasons in the first place.

In my younger years I was into 40K. I bought a Shadowsword Baneblade, a $150 investment - I played 40k for 2 years, I think I used the Baneblade twice. It now sits in pride of place on my shelf - unpainted, grey and dull (I'm one of those 40k players). When I eventually buy a Corvette, I will probably use it about as many times - but I'll pay $30 less and hey, it'll be painted at least.

19 minutes ago, Sixter said:

What are the right reasons to buy the epic ships?

Because Epic is loads of fun.

Fair enough. In my case I bought the first three epic ships (Transport, Corvette and Raider) because there are cards in there that were immediately relevant in the standard format. I did certainly hope at the time that the epic format would evolve so that those ships would hit the table in the immediate future. So far almost nobody at my store plays epic,and can you blame them? Sure, you can play a 300 pt "epic" game but unless youre completely fooling around you will just see a 300 pt standard X-wing game.

In any case, respect, I just dont understand FFGs marketing strategy and how it relates to my consumer habits at the moment (feeling confused).

4 hours ago, AllWingsStandyingBy said:

Yes, BEFORE you roll the dice, you declare one die result (blank, focus, evade, hit, crit). Then you roll the dice. Then you must change any one of those dice to the result you named.

So he works like before (ie, not like C3PO), except now you don't get to see your roll before deciding whether or not you need to Palps. Old Palps could wait and look at results to decide when he most needed to trigger. It'll still be pretty obvious when to Palp, but means now sometimes the Palp player may "waste" Palp by using him on a roll they didn't need. It also makes it harder for Palp to "game" a Gunner by adjusting a defense roll so that the target takes one damage and doesn't trigger Gunner.

You can still palp a gunner. You can name any result it doesn't have to be an evade or a crit. and it is before your roll not before an attack. So if a gunner makes an attack and only gets one hit you can say focus or blank, and if you roll an evade you can modify it.

21 minutes ago, Sixter said:

What are the right reasons to buy the epic ships?

Depends, if it is to play impressive games with large ships as a centerpiece then yes that is the correct reason to buy epic ships.

If it is to netlist a certain upgrade or pilot card that is top of the meta then I would say wrong reasons to buy an epic ship if that is all you are going to do.

If it is to get a ship fix so yo ucan use it more then maybe but I would also suggest playing at least one or two epic games to get your money's worth.

5 hours ago, gamblertuba said:

Now if someone had run out and spent the approximately $300USD to run triple scouts right before the errata to deadeye... well... unnnggghhhh... Nope. Sorry.

I actually know someone who did it. FAQ dropped right after he got it all assembled and right as he was putting it into squad builder.

It sucks when things get nerfed if you're committed to them. I'm learning how to play again because all 3 of my list types just got deleted, and deleted harder than Palp did. The imperial players can still fly Palp defenders. The scum will learn more ideas and be back in the game again.

Excuse me for asking like an idiot, but why is netlisting so frowned upon in this community? I wish I had more time to play and develop my own lists, but at the time being Id rather put my effort into learning to play lists that have already shown results. In this current age (the age of the internet) I would have thought that was considered quite mainstream.

I think the principle lesson involved in all of this is to jump on the meta bandwagon way earlier.