Will we see these as playable species?

By Bluhfer, in Star Wars: Force and Destiny RPG

Ewoks?

Jawas?

Yoda's races?

I would really like to see them in this game officially.

Any thoughts? What books might have them.? Or why not?

Edited by Bluhfer

Ewoks? I think these would be a cool fit in the AoR Engineer book, they are a creative and ingenious little species that would make really fun saboteurs or combat engineers. They would obviously be primitive and being in an AoR book makes the most sense. They are also iconic so I can't see FFG overlooking them.

Jawa? They would fit best in an EotE sector book, possibly focused on Arkanis or perhaps Shadow Ports. The other potential is for an Adventure, likely focused on a gruelling treck through the deserts of Tatooine.

Yodas species? The pure fact that people don't even know the species name is probably reason enough not to have them. Yoda has always carried a certain mystique, his history lost to time and his species unknown. I hope FFG maintains that enigma and don't bring them in. I doubt Disney/LFL would allow it anyway, unless something changes in the Cannon to introduce that species properly.

Ewoks - I felt that they were more spiritual and should be in FaD... Becuz they thought c3po was a god (becuz he was floating.) I hope they are in a FaD book .

Would be awesome if Ewoks were in the Mystic book actually. That's a really nice fit I hadn't thought of.

Ewoks are too isolated to make a good option for the game, so I doubt we'll see them.

I'm surprised we haven't already seen Jawa as a playable species, and hope this is corrected in whatever book comes next for EotE.

I doubt we'll see Yoda's species for the reasons Richardbuxton listed. Honestly, I'd rather play a Lannik anyway.

13 minutes ago, deraforia said:

Ewoks are too isolated to make a good option for the game, so I doubt we'll see them.

The same argument was made for Chiss, but they showed up in the first career book.

Just now, HappyDaze said:

The same argument was made for Chiss, but they showed up in the first career book.

But the Chiss at least have the capability of coming into the Empire from the Unknown Regions. Ewoks are not spacefarers.

2 minutes ago, HappyDaze said:

The same argument was made for Chiss, but they showed up in the first career book.

Basically this. Their iconic place in Star Wars culture must ultimately trump their actual place in the Star Wars galaxy. Warrior, Mystic and Engineer would all be good places to see them.

Just now, deraforia said:

But the Chiss at least have the capability of coming into the Empire from the Unknown Regions. Ewoks are not spacefarers.

I really do accept that in the SW Universe Ewoks are on a single planet, Primitive and unknown to everyone. But that's why the Primitive species ability exists, Dresellians have it, Ewoks would have it too.

Just think of all the Ewok fans out there. We keep getting the cantina ensemble, but those little guys had a third of a movie dedicated to them. I know more than a few people who would love to play the role of an Ewok with their little jubjubing and inquisitive fiddling with technology.

1 minute ago, Richardbuxton said:

Basically this. Their iconic place in Star Wars culture must ultimately trump their actual place in the Star Wars galaxy. Warrior, Mystic and Engineer would all be good places to see them.

Mystic, maybe. Warrior? I could see it if I squint really hard.

Engineer? I wouldn't put it past FFG to put them there, but I could hardly think of a less appropriate book for them to appear. Also, the art we have for Fully Operational suggests there's a chance we're getting two reprint species in addition to the Bith.

Savage Spirits would have been the best book for them.

The reason I say Engineer is because we see them idolise technology, they constantly want to see how it works. We don't see them use the Force at all. If we presume that some get out into the wider Galaxy somehow it's probably the inquisitive ones who would do that.

Its not as if they are extremely difficult to stat out either, high Cunning, perhaps intellect too, low Brawn, Silhouette 0, Primitive, 90-110xp depending on final characteristic spread.

I want to see Gammorreans far more than Ewoks. Perhaps in the warrior book?

Just now, HappyDaze said:

I want to see Gammorreans far more than Ewoks. Perhaps in the warrior book?

Now that would be fun. How they reconcile the appalling stats they gave them in Debts to Pay I don't know, but Gammorrean Aggressor would be absurd.

Just now, Richardbuxton said:

The reason I say Engineer is because we see them idolise technology, they constantly want to see how it works. We don't see them use the Force at all. If we presume that some get out into the wider Galaxy somehow it's probably the inquisitive ones who would do that.

Its not as if they are extremely difficult to stat out either, high Cunning, perhaps intellect too, low Brawn, Silhouette 0, Primitive, 90-110xp depending on final characteristic spread.

Despite their size, I don't think I'd have Ewoks start with Brawn 1. They are still vicious warriors that can use primitive weaponry to kill stormtroopers. If they lack strength then the the already flimsy victory they pull off becomes even more far-fetched.

1 minute ago, Richardbuxton said:

Its not as if they are extremely difficult to stat out either, high Cunning, perhaps intellect too, low Brawn, Silhouette 0, Primitive, 90-110xp depending on final characteristic spread.

I agree with high Cunning, but I don't think it's fair to penalize their Brawn. They seem like hardy little guys. Maybe low Willpower.

4 minutes ago, HappyDaze said:

I want to see Gammorreans far more than Ewoks. Perhaps in the warrior book?

Agreed. Would have liked to have seen them in Lords of Nal Hutta, but if we ever do end up with an obligatory Tatooine book, I expect to see them there alongside Jawas and Tusken Raiders.

45 minutes ago, Richardbuxton said:

The reason I say Engineer is because we see them idolise technology, they constantly want to see how it works. We don't see them use the Force at all. If we presume that some get out into the wider Galaxy somehow it's probably the inquisitive ones who would do that.

Its not as if they are extremely difficult to stat out either, high Cunning, perhaps intellect too, low Brawn, Silhouette 0, Primitive, 90-110xp depending on final characteristic spread.

41 minutes ago, deraforia said:

I agree with high Cunning, but I don't think it's fair to penalize their Brawn. They seem like hardy little guys. Maybe low Willpower.

I'd probably be inclined to lower their Agility than Willpower, given their short arms and legs and more "rolly-polly" appearance.

1 minute ago, Tramp Graphics said:

I'd probably be inclined to lower their Agility than Willpower, given their short arms and legs and more "rolly-polly" appearance.

Very true although they are quick on their feet and stealthy. They do seem easily tricked and lacking in self control so Willpower may be the best choice for a 1. It could go a couple of ways for sure, who knows.

15 hours ago, HappyDaze said:

Despite their size, I don't think I'd have Ewoks start with Brawn 1. They are still vicious warriors that can use primitive weaponry to kill stormtroopers. If they lack strength then the the already flimsy victory they pull off becomes even more far-fetched.

Maybe he meant brawn 2 with low brawn, because that seems rather reasonable, sil 0, brawn 2, they are rather strong as seen in RotJ and the Ewok movies. Though seen ewok shamans with force powers wouldn't be that far fetched either. They look actually like a pretty 222222 species. Primitives for sure, but not dumb and not especially cunning compared to humans either.

Shamans Edit

Logray

Logray , an Ewok shaman

Every village appointed its own mystic or shaman . The shaman was sometimes simply the village con artist, who made up answers about what the gods wanted and how they could be pleased. Others had genuine abilities, sometimes showing abilities similar to Force-sensitives . For the shaman's services, the village gave the shaman anything he or she wanted, including crystals, shells, polished skulls, and other treasures the shaman found interesting. Many shamans wore large animal skulls on their heads.

Shamans were the tribal healers, usually relying on vile-smelling herbal medicines. Many types of fungus, lichens, roots, berries, flowers, epiphytes, and bark were used, with varying medicinal effects.

In general seems Endor to be a hort of all kinds of force sensitive creatures.

15 hours ago, HappyDaze said:

Despite their size, I don't think I'd have Ewoks start with Brawn 1. They are still vicious warriors that can use primitive weaponry to kill stormtroopers. If they lack strength then the the already flimsy victory they pull off becomes even more far-fetched.

Maybe he meant brawn 2 with low brawn, because that seems rather reasonable, sil 0, brawn 2, they are rather strong as seen in RotJ and the Ewok movies. Though seen ewok shamans with force powers wouldn't be that far fetched either. They look actually like a pretty 222222 species. Primitives for sure, but not dumb and not especially cunning compared to humans either.

Shamans Edit

Logray

Logray , an Ewok shaman

Every village appointed its own mystic or shaman . The shaman was sometimes simply the village con artist, who made up answers about what the gods wanted and how they could be pleased. Others had genuine abilities, sometimes showing abilities similar to Force-sensitives . For the shaman's services, the village gave the shaman anything he or she wanted, including crystals, shells, polished skulls, and other treasures the shaman found interesting. Many shamans wore large animal skulls on their heads.

Shamans were the tribal healers, usually relying on vile-smelling herbal medicines. Many types of fungus, lichens, roots, berries, flowers, epiphytes, and bark were used, with varying medicinal effects.

In general seems Endor to be a hort of all kinds of force sensitive creatures.

Personally, I can't see any of them officially because ( @deraforia mentioned it), Ewoks are on a single planet, and I think as far as cannon is concerned so are Jawas.

Personally I think unless you came up with an amazing story (I haven't heard one yet) that Ewoks would just feel odd. I'm also glad that Disney has kept Yoda one in the galaxy, and I hope that they and FFG continue to do so.

If they make a Tatooine source-book, then I think it will have Jawas, Tuskans and Gammorrians. Although I think a source-book containing multiple outer rim planets would be more interesting. I'm probably the only one, but I think a Rishi Maze source-book could be interesting.

Out of the species that I can think of, the one I would be most interested in playing that hasn't been released yet would probably be Kubaz.

1 hour ago, Imperial Stormtrooper said:

but I think a Rishi Maze source-book could be interesting.

With Kamino and Rothana in close proximity and Firebase Alpha in the Rishi Maze, it actually would be an interesting source book.

3 hours ago, Imperial Stormtrooper said:

Personally, I can't see any of them officially because ( @deraforia mentioned it), Ewoks are on a single planet, and I think as far as cannon is concerned so are Jawas.

Personally I think unless you came up with an amazing story (I haven't heard one yet) that Ewoks would just feel odd. I'm also glad that Disney has kept Yoda one in the galaxy, and I hope that they and FFG continue to do so.

If they make a Tatooine source-book, then I think it will have Jawas, Tuskans and Gammorrians. Although I think a source-book containing multiple outer rim planets would be more interesting. I'm probably the only one, but I think a Rishi Maze source-book could be interesting.

Out of the species that I can think of, the one I would be most interested in playing that hasn't been released yet would probably be Kubaz.

Based on the one appearing in A New Hope, I think we have a strong chance of seeing the Kubaz in the Spy book.

I don't think Ewoks really have much of a place as a playable species, because they aren't a spacefaring civilization. Maybe some Ewoks were uplifted after the battle of Endor, but before that the likelyhood of finding any of them out and about in the universe would have been slim to none.

You can always just use Drall with slightly altered stats and skills to make an Ewok anyways.

A species doesn't need to be a space faring species to be a playable one. There are already more than a few "non-space faring" playable species.