I hate sand.

Think with Palp, X7s and Manaroo nerfed TIE/DS will be even stronger now.

Flechette cannon anyone?

6 hours ago, Blail Blerg said:

Biggs with?

Kanan/Zeb?

Shara Norra?

My super secret Biggs build:

Kanan-

FCS

Rey

Jyn Erso

TLT

TJ

Plasma Torps

EM

Biggs-

IA

Determination

R2-D6

Rex-

Sabines Masterpiece

Jan Ors

What is scum looking at for lists?

7 minutes ago, WarriorOfIron13 said:

What is scum looking at for lists?

Any Mindlinks. Parattanni can easily be modified, even:

Asajj Ventress (37)
Attanni Mindlink (1)
Latts Razzi (2)
Rigged Cargo Chute (1)

Fenn Rau (28)
Attanni Mindlink (1)
Autothrusters (2)
Concord Dawn Protector (1)

Palob Godalhi (20)
Attanni Mindlink (1)
Twin Laser Turret (6)

Total: 100

View in Yet Another Squad Builder

Could even go with Guri instead of Rau for more during combat focus gains.

Sadly, I think the new hotness is probably bomber K Wings. Sabine remains as the sole un-nerfed unlimited-range support crew that people actually use.

4 minutes ago, thespaceinvader said:

Sadly, I think the new hotness is probably bomber K Wings. Sabine remains as the sole un-nerfed unlimited-range support crew that people actually use.

Maybe, it is certainly something I would not rule out and I am a bit sceptical that they didn't give her the rane 1-3 treatment, but that list is a bit weak to Bunkes rebel jank swarm (2 tracer bandits, 2 FCS B-Wings or ABT+Plasma Torp Y-Wings, Stresshog for those who haven't seen it). Which in turn is PS-killed by Crackswarms and Crack-Defenders, of which the Defenders are weak to Bomber-K-Wings. These could form the new corners of the meta, 'swarms' > K-Wings > Triple D > 'swarms, but that doesn't account for Attanni, which can move between triple D and swarms and thanks to Lancers doesn't have to be wek to K-Wings even on the "more similar to triple D" side.

10 hours ago, Blail Blerg said:

I should say, my opponents green dice were considerably hot the rest of the game too. Reasons why I share dice nowadays. I don't wanna think about dice.

my condolences. you should come play me. =3

literally got 0 value out of kylo crew.

I just won a tournament with him. He was instrumental in winning all the games for me. Being able to blind enemies in crucial situations is incredibly powerful. Sure, you can only do it twice, but if you could do it more often it would be straight up OP. Even twice is enough to shift the balance decisively in your favor. If you couldn't get any value out of him, there must have been something you didn't do quite right. What did you put him on?

10 minutes ago, Admiral Deathrain said:

Maybe, it is certainly something I would not rule out and I am a bit sceptical that they didn't give her the rane 1-3 treatment, but that list is a bit weak to Bunkes rebel jank swarm (2 tracer bandits, 2 FCS B-Wings or ABT+Plasma Torp Y-Wings, Stresshog for those who haven't seen it). Which in turn is PS-killed by Crackswarms and Crack-Defenders, of which the Defenders are weak to Bomber-K-Wings. These could form the new corners of the meta, 'swarms' > K-Wings > Triple D > 'swarms, but that doesn't account for Attanni, which can move between triple D and swarms and thanks to Lancers doesn't have to be wek to K-Wings even on the "more similar to triple D" side.

I don't think swarms are back. They're suppressed too hard by spike damage. The likes of Rey and Fenn can pop a ship a round against swarms with only minimal dice swing, and both of them can do it pretty reliably to Howl before she can shoot.

Otherwise I'd be seriously considering bringing back the Cracktor Swarm.

1 minute ago, thespaceinvader said:

I don't think swarms are back. They're suppressed too hard by spike damage. The likes of Rey and Fenn can pop a ship a round against swarms with only minimal dice swing, and both of them can do it pretty reliably to Howl before she can shoot.

Otherwise I'd be seriously considering bringing back the Cracktor Swarm.

Sounds plausible, I didn't consider how much alpha damage other lists can pump out now. The rebel swarm gets around that by having beefy ships and difficult targeting priority, but it requires one hell of a pilot! Maybe I am just dreaming, I really wish that list would set the pace for the meta - but it probably won't happen.

9 minutes ago, Lightrock said:

I just won a tournament with him. He was instrumental in winning all the games for me. Being able to blind enemies in crucial situations is incredibly powerful. Sure, you can only do it twice, but if you could do it more often it would be straight up OP. Even twice is enough to shift the balance decisively in your favor. If you couldn't get any value out of him, there must have been something you didn't do quite right. What did you put him on?

Had him on RAC with Predator (and a TL), whiffed into 1 hit TL into nothing. Perfect shot on Fenn rau with 1 focus , in arc R2.

Also had on Ups who put it on a Concord Dawn and didn't really get it to hit until the game was pretty over.

1 hour ago, charlesanakin said:

My super secret Biggs build:

Kanan-

FCS

Rey

Jyn Erso

TLT

TJ

Plasma Torps

EM

Biggs-

IA

Determination

R2-D6

Rex-

Sabines Masterpiece

Jan Ors

I'm gonna have to digest that slowly. Lots of cards haha.

Also, thanks for the Kwing. =) She gets play time.

@charlesanakin, also i replied to your list idea with boost Manaroo, but it might not super relevant now with the FAQ.

3 Defenders, x7 are still beastly jousters, maybe some D with stress cannon.

Miranda-sabine bombers

Scumacces mindlinked, just 3 aces now instead 2+ manaroo

Fat turret + swarm leader

Stresslists

58 minutes ago, Blail Blerg said:

Had him on RAC with Predator (and a TL), whiffed into 1 hit TL into nothing. Perfect shot on Fenn rau with 1 focus , in arc R2.

Also had on Ups who put it on a Concord Dawn and didn't really get it to hit until the game was pretty over.

You were unlucky in that particular situation then. It happens. Still, was this the only time you used Kylo or were you unlucky all the time? Either way, it's not the card that seems to be the problem :P.

Kylo lists tend to be vulnerable to bombs as most of them are either tame or two ship lists.

The real trouble with Kylo crew is that he's an action that doesn't mod dice.

7 hours ago, FlyingAnchors said:

Party bus has to kick 4-lom off for running up to high a tab, but welcomes inspiring recruit to the party!

4LOM (still salty about the Kenner name up thirty years ago) is like, "Why am I getting kicked off? (Points to Zuckuss) he's the one causing all the problems!"

16 hours ago, Blail Blerg said:

defenders are kinda back to not that great again

Are they?

Was running into other ships and asteroids actually a huge part of their strategy? If so, I missed that.

50 minutes ago, DarthEnderX said:

Are they?

Was running into other ships and asteroids actually a huge part of their strategy? If so, I missed that.

No, but barely caring about stress was. Watch as R3-A2 Braylen (with gunner or tactician) becomes immensely more powerful against them. Backed up by anything able to pit out decent dice (B or X wings, even a Z missile swarm), cockroach defenders suddenly become very, very squashable.

Only when you can double stress them though. Single stress them and they probably won't get a shot any more, which is admittedly huge, but they'll still run away, token up, and be just as annoyingly impossible to kill.

Makes TIE Mk2 SO much more valuable for them though.

A defender with mk2 engines has 10 green maneuvers. Unless you doublestress him he's fine. Even before the nerf i always felt really nervous about running a defender without mk2 unless its Ryad.

Stress braylen is still a super squishy immobile and expensive ship. He may negate one defender with a double stress attack but will probably die immediately afterwords or at most the following round before he attacks again because its insanely easy to chase an ARC with a defender.

Also Inspiring Recruit is amazing. I have been randomly adding one to my lists that have a crew slot and it almost ALWAYS ends up being a good thing i brought it.

12 hours ago, Budgernaut said:

Go for it! They're each 29 points with Attanni Mindlink, so there are still 13 points for you to play with and make the squad your own. I actually haven't tried the Mindlink version yet. Instead I had Veteran Instincts on Zuckuss, Fearlessness on Fenn, and Crack Shot on Talonbane.

I borrowed it too, this seems fun can't wait to try it out. Added some more things to Zuckuss mostly to get to 100 points. Thanks for the idea!

17 hours ago, TitaniumChopstick said:

This really makes me salty... If FFG is going to make massive nerfs, why couldnt they do it during Store Champ season or any time not right before a major tournament like Hoth or Worlds (jm5k)? This is honestly ridiculous. I spend 4 months preparing and $700 on hotel/entry fees and FFG has essentially made that all worthless, unless I can cram in some more practice in the 2 local game nights I have before Hoth...

I'd have to assume that your list had some of the cards that got hit in it.

I'd say you spent all that money to go to a major tournament to play a game and have a good time. Hang out with people and share your love of X-wing. You've lost nothing from that prospective. If you were only going to win, and your fun is predicated on winning, well then I'm sorry.

20 hours ago, FangedChicken said:

I think ordinance lists that were already good just got better, since people will still run paratanni but have to fly closer together.

I could be wrong, but I think 4 x Tie Bomber lists might do well now. Give them Homing Missiles for the most part and they will avoid the Evade tokens. I think they can burn down some of the big ships pretty fast. Perhaps it's time?

4 hours ago, DarthEnderX said:

Are they?

Was running into other ships and asteroids actually a huge part of their strategy? If so, I missed that.

3 straight bumping into something and chasing it yes. In a scrum, hitting things cuz there's not enough room, sure! I did it plenty to get really good shots. =)

Going through rocks? No. Especially not stress. Lol.