ionized ship and shaken pilot

By BadMotivator, in X-Wing Rules Questions

This came up in a game I was watching and we couldnt figure out what happens.

A ship suffering the shaken pilot crit gets ionized.

Shaken pilot says you cannot be assigned straight maneuvers. Ion says the ship moves as if it were assigned a white 1 straight maneuver.

What happens?

You move 1 straight.

When you are ioned you cannot ASSIGN a straight maneuver (i.e., set your dial to a straight) but it does not prevent other game effects from causing you to perform a straight.

Yup. Ionisation stops you setting a manoeuvre at all, so you don't set a dial, and Shaken Pilot remains face up til next time you reveal a manoeuvre.

The issue is that Ion says "as if assigned..."

If you cannot be assigned, the transitive property says that "as if assigned" doesn't work either.

Ion doesn't say "you perform a straight 1 maneuver", which would get around being unable to be assigned, it effectively says you are assigned a straight 1 maneuver.

3 hours ago, BadMotivator said:

The issue is that Ion says "as if assigned..."

If you cannot be assigned, the transitive property says that "as if assigned" doesn't work either.

Ion doesn't say "you perform a straight 1 maneuver", which would get around being unable to be assigned, it effectively says you are assigned a straight 1 maneuver.

Don't overthink it. Ionization trumps Shaken Pilot.

17 hours ago, BadMotivator said:

The issue is that Ion says "as if assigned..."

If you cannot be assigned, the transitive property says that "as if assigned" doesn't work either.

Ion doesn't say "you perform a straight 1 maneuver", which would get around being unable to be assigned, it effectively says you are assigned a straight 1 maneuver.

You are moving as if you were assigned a straight maneuver.

You weren't assigned a straight maneuver. You weren't assigned a maneuver at all. So it doesn't matter that you can't be assigned a straight maneuver.

But you're moving as if you were.

"as if assigned" is referring to the behavior. It does not mean you were assigned that move.

Its a way of drawing out a specific piece of a rule without having all the side stuff come in (revealing a dial for instance).

8 hours ago, digitalbusker said:

You are moving as if you were assigned a straight maneuver.

You weren't assigned a straight maneuver. You weren't assigned a maneuver at all. So it doesn't matter that you can't be assigned a straight maneuver.

But you're moving as if you were.

I guess.

The wording should still be changed if thats the case to avoid confusion. It should just say "the ship performs a 1 straight white maneuver". Having the word "assigned" in there is a mistake.