So all I am looking for are pros and cons, not another thread moaning about what seems to be largely unknown right now as to how exactly FFG plans to go forward with this game.

So what are the pros and cons regarding entry into this game currently, and why should/shouldn't I be interested in picking it up?

Just as a little background, I have watched numerous videos of gameplay and believe it to be a fantastic game fundamentally. I picked up the starters last night and played a few games where I was largely just learning the game. It felt like the game really needs numerous booster purchases to really get me anywhere (which I will have to wait on), and I'm okay with that as long as I am not expected to buy $1000 worth of cards each year that will become unusable within a years time, which, if I understand correctly, may be a real possibility. I would like to be able to field at least mildly competitive decks that while not necessarily expected to win, would allow me to enjoy the gameplay even in match ups where the odds are against me when matched up against players more willing to pay for singles.

Playing on TTS is a real possibility, but I would feel a little scummy about playing that without any substantial investment in the physical game. I'd also need to get quite a bit better handle on the game before I get to that point as well to feel I was not burdening my opponent, but considering physical product is basically non-existent outside of the secondary market at this point, this may be the only real way for me to play the game the way I would like anyways.

So let me know if I should be prepared to invest more in this game than I already have , or if I should look for someone to hand off my starters to and stick to games I've already invested in (and the pros and cons of doing either).

Eh, this sounds a little too academic, and I don't get paid for that.

This is a hard one and I think you can gain some information from these forums and some information from your local game store.

Pro's: -For me this game is tons of fun. Not only is there the chance factor in deck building and getting the right cards in your opening hand and the right card at the right time during the game but there is also the dice factor which adds another element of surprise during the game.

-Quality, this game has high quality cards with high quality dice sure there were the misprints which thankfully I got none but the quality of the product is still there.

-The game is very well balanced, yes there is some variations in card prices where Vader is the high end Legendary and Sith Holocron and Holdout Blaster are the expensive rares but in the right deck almost every card can shine.

-The game is fast pace and both players get to play without that feeling of being blown out like a turn 2 kill in Magic.

Cons- Even though you can easily buy the starters and a booster box or two this game isn't overly friendly for the player who wants to go into the game store and buy 2 booster packs every week. You have the chance of getting no characters or the color matchup just does not work out.

-the availability just might not be there for you. This is where earlier I said to discuss with your local store. If your store got a lot of product at first launch and it stayed around for a bit you may be able to get a booster box each release if not you may be competing to buy product. I know where I lived from release until early January I didn't have a problem getting product though now it is all dry.

-Trying to collect the whole set or playset. This also comes back to availability. If you have a good game store with a lot of players you may be able to get product and trade for what you need otherwise you will have to hit the secondary market and pay through the roof for certain cards/dice.

-playing competitively can be difficult depending on your area. I know in my area it isn't a lot of fun. There are half of the players who got a lot of product and some who got none. I played 2 people last week who were playing with starters, 1 who was playing with a playset and one who had a decent collection. I had a fully decked out EBala-Trooper-Jango deck and it ran through all of them easily but the people with starters I felt bad playing against.

I hope this helped you with information with the decision you make.

I love this game, it is my favourite one at the moment. I have been fortunate enough to get hold of a decent amount of boosters and have found myself using mainly rare cards as characters instead of the legendarys I have managed to pull. To be mildly competitive I would say you will need to invest a reasonable amount and think that as more expansions are released this will hopefully be easier for new players to get into. I imagine the game will have legs but in terms of rotation it's anybody's guess right now.

If I had 0 cards I'd wait til the first base set and get in then. Just my opinion. If ur starting, awakenings is essentially out of the question unless you have endless amounts of money. You could start one the next set if u can find a local shop to preorder from. Then buy several boxes and trade for what u need from awakenings set. Kinda up to you. $$ versus quality. It's a great game, not much product atm.

Personally, I don't like "convince" me threads. Each person is different. Not sure what are your likes and dislikes for a hobby. I would recommend you going to a LGS in your area with a SW Destiny nite. Sit down and get a couple of demos in and get a "feel" of the local play group in your area.

What really makes a game for me is the game group and game play. More so the group than the game. In terms of financial costs and future "power creep" to invalidate previous cards. I would just say it's a collectible game and base it on your experience of other collectible games you had. If this is your first collectible game then that's a different story. For me, I've done a couple collectible miniature games and tried to CCGs in SW Deciper and L5R. They can be costly depending on what you're looking to invest in. Also, this is a SW IP. The game is dependent on FFG retaining the IP from Disney as well.

2 hours ago, WonderWAAAGH said:

Eh, this sounds a little too academic, and I don't get paid for that.

Good contribution, as always.

32 minutes ago, Network57 said:

Good contribution, as always.

Hmm, I just scrolled up but I couldn't find your post anywhere. Did you have something germane to share, or were you just being ironic for the sake of my amusement?

X-wing, Armada, SW Card Game....

I like the game as it is easy to learn and hard to master.

You have seen the game play videos.

I would say watch as much as you can. Everyone's opinion is just that.

The pros are huge!

The cons is balance and that will come with time. Jango Fett, enough said.

Just over a half hour tournament games and everyone went, "Wait what!" The 2 weeks later and it's like got that. This is just the beginning and the future looks brite.

On 3/4/2017 at 0:54 PM, Kdubb said:

...As long as I am not expected to buy $1000 worth of cards each year that will become unusable within a years time, which, if I understand correctly, may be a real possibility.

Well, if you do decide to invest in it and then unexpectedly get hit by a bus, the cards and dice won't be usable anyways.

Kdubb,

Knowing your current concerns with X-Wing, I'm not sure Destiny would be the game for you. What I mean by that is that I think that FFG's guiding principles in game development and balance will remain the same -- they are going to prefer to add in cards to "shape" the meta rather than take a more timely approach when something is "broken." While there seems to be a good balance right now, I don't have faith that, with their philosophy, they'll maintain that, especially since a lot more card interactions can happen in this game than X-wing. We're already seeing some things in the new set where interactions are unclear and we've only had like 8-10 cards previewed.

My own plan is that I have bought in and I love the game play and will be in on the next set (I have pre-ordered 3) to give them a chance to see if they clear up the supply side issue, but beyond that, I'm not sure. I don't want to have to be trying to chase product. I don't have a complete set and have probably spent around $400 (though I could probably trade to at least get all the rares). I can play a good variety of decks but not everything and it's probably what I'd expect to spend every expansion if I wanted a wide variety. That's a lot more than I ever spent on a Wave of Xwing (but there I would always have everything I needed). If I do continue in the game. I'll probably, at some point, focus a bit more on one side or the other.

It's odd as I'm not out of this game yet and really like it, but their recent announcement didn't really get me more excited for the future of it.

On ‎3‎/‎4‎/‎2017 at 2:11 PM, Thanoseid said:

This is a hard one and I think you can gain some information from these forums and some information from your local game store.

Pro's: -For me this game is tons of fun. Not only is there the chance factor in deck building and getting the right cards in your opening hand and the right card at the right time during the game but there is also the dice factor which adds another element of surprise during the game.

-Quality, this game has high quality cards with high quality dice sure there were the misprints which thankfully I got none but the quality of the product is still there.

-The game is very well balanced, yes there is some variations in card prices where Vader is the high end Legendary and Sith Holocron and Holdout Blaster are the expensive rares but in the right deck almost every card can shine.

-The game is fast pace and both players get to play without that feeling of being blown out like a turn 2 kill in Magic.

Cons- Even though you can easily buy the starters and a booster box or two this game isn't overly friendly for the player who wants to go into the game store and buy 2 booster packs every week. You have the chance of getting no characters or the color matchup just does not work out.

-the availability just might not be there for you. This is where earlier I said to discuss with your local store. If your store got a lot of product at first launch and it stayed around for a bit you may be able to get a booster box each release if not you may be competing to buy product. I know where I lived from release until early January I didn't have a problem getting product though now it is all dry.

-Trying to collect the whole set or playset. This also comes back to availability. If you have a good game store with a lot of players you may be able to get product and trade for what you need otherwise you will have to hit the secondary market and pay through the roof for certain cards/dice.

-playing competitively can be difficult depending on your area. I know in my area it isn't a lot of fun. There are half of the players who got a lot of product and some who got none. I played 2 people last week who were playing with starters, 1 who was playing with a playset and one who had a decent collection. I had a fully decked out EBala-Trooper-Jango deck and it ran through all of them easily but the people with starters I felt bad playing against.

I hope this helped you with information with the decision you make.

Thank you for the honesty. I thought about getting into it as well. My local store has 0 product. My guess is it would be near impossible for me to get any decent deck in the future without paying huge $$.

And if they stop producing certain cards/dice; my guess is broken combos will emerge, eventually, using cards that very few people will own (and others who started later will straight up not even be able to access), creating unfair advantages. Guess I will stick to other games.

4 hours ago, Gibbilo said:

Thank you for the honesty. I thought about getting into it as well. My local store has 0 product. My guess is it would be near impossible for me to get any decent deck in the future without paying huge $$.

And if they stop producing certain cards/dice; my guess is broken combos will emerge, eventually, using cards that very few people will own (and others who started later will straight up not even be able to access), creating unfair advantages. Guess I will stick to other games.

this is my main concern of will happen if ffg continues the way it is, ppl think I am hating on the company but I been around the block in ccg and know how a lot of players think.

13 hours ago, Gibbilo said:

Thank you for the honesty. I thought about getting into it as well. My local store has 0 product. My guess is it would be near impossible for me to get any decent deck in the future without paying huge $$.

And if they stop producing certain cards/dice; my guess is broken combos will emerge, eventually, using cards that very few people will own (and others who started later will straight up not even be able to access), creating unfair advantages. Guess I will stick to other games.

I wanted to bold that because ALL CCGs (and possibly even LCGs?) end print runs. Magic stays in print for about a year.

This likely means that in Destiny there will eventually be a cycle. Every X # of sets the cards from several earlier sets rotate out. Broken combos disappear, new ones arise. Honestly, I do not think that in the current set there is anything that is a broken combo. Some people look at Jango as being powerful, and at the Holocron for being too good... but they are not broken.

Will they emerge? Uncertain the future is.
Will releases be as small as Awakenings was? Again, uncertain the future is, but doubtful that choice would be.

And if you are really worried about not having access to cards - and I hate to advocate this - buy a Saga Set from Team Covenant when they come out. Who knows, they might even do another wave of them for the next release of Awakenings.

If you want to get into the game now, dig about on eBay. Otherwise wait, and do not judge on the fact that your LGS has 0 stock right now. That is the condition of 99.9999% of the world.

Or move on to other pastures.
It honestly sounded like you had already talked yourself out of playing anyways. I just wanted to refute a few points.

There is nothing to convince. There is no product. LOL