Rear Admiral Chiraneau and "Quickdraw"

By IgotTargetlocked, in X-Wing Squad Lists

Thinking about flying this at my local store tomorro

RAC,

VI , Kylo Ren, Gunner, Hotshot copilot, Dauntless , Engine uppgrade. 65 Points

Wingmate

"Quickdraw"

Trickshot , Fcs, Sensor cluster, Special ops Traing, and Lightweight frame

Thinking that i wanna give my opponet a hard time, Rac can bump and still get kylo of, and QD is a beast of his own, and one that you dont wanna shot at.

Hmm, With Light and sensor he can go Focus all the time, and hopefully get 3 evades with sensorcluster helping agienst thos 5 dice Fenn attacks, with the posebility to give a sweeet return salov.

What do you think?

I ran similar, just Palp version instead of Gunner/Hot CoP. I do think Adapt to 10 is better than Trick, especially if you plan on facing Fenn and want to arc dodge.

Some people like having both pilots at same PS also for maneuvering options.

Pretty good but I have a few suggestions. I ran a very similar list but with Vader on the Decimator rather than Kylo Ren. You don't have much to generate crits apart from RAC himself and I feel Vader is better for swatting slippery Aces like Soontir and Fenn.

Sensor Cluster is OK on Quickdraw but I would rather give an EPT that can benefit every shot she takes like Predator (since she can take up to 4 shots per turn and FCS won't help if you are switching front and back). With Predator you can drop FCS and instead give her Sensor Jammer for more protection. This works especially well with Hotshot Copilot since you can make sure that anyone in a position to attack QD has no Focus tokens left when they come to shoot.

62 Rear Admiral Chiraneau (46), Adaptability (0), Vader (3), Gunner (5), Hotshot Copilot (4), EU (4)
38 Quickdraw (29), Predator (3), Sensor Jammer (4), Lightweight Frame (2), Special Ops Training (0)

sensor jammer seems pointless to me, as most ships have a focus...especially dengaroo and his re-generating focus'.

Yeah I'd say drop sensor jammer, just not what it use to be, I know it works well with hotshot, but mindlink lists are gonna have more then RAC's target with focus. Do baffle and expertise on quick draw, then he has a focus mod for every shot and can trigger his double attack when he wants, not just in response to an attack. It's also a nice deterrent for asajj.

I suggest that a good option for Quickdraw is:

Sucide Quick (37pt) = 29 + PTL(3) + Baffle(1) + Pattern (2) + Title(0) + Lightweight(2)

You have to damage yourself, but the first two turns of fire, you can Roll 8 dice per turn with 2 actions and no stress.

It probably hurts an enemy target + Chirenau Attack. Its kind of Imperial Corran. I played few times with good results.

Sensor Jammer is shiny if you have RAC with Hotshot Copilot shooting at PS10. :D

Yeah, we all know about Baffle Quickdraw, so if somebody doesn't suggest it, they probably don't want a suicide 'ace'.

9 minutes ago, Karhedron said:

Sensor Jammer is shiny if you have RAC with Hotshot Copilot shooting at PS10. :D

Yeah, you have a great point. I always forget that Gunner is all but stapled to RAC, so you're stripping two focus tokens off one of those scum pilots no matter what, leaving Quickdraw more able to bring the pain. It helps her regulate how many shields she loses, which is really nice.

On 01/03/2017 at 0:12 PM, Karhedron said:

Pretty good but I have a few suggestions. I ran a very similar list but with Vader on the Decimator rather than Kylo Ren. You don't have much to generate crits apart from RAC himself and I feel Vader is better for swatting slippery Aces like Soontir and Fenn.

Sensor Cluster is OK on Quickdraw but I would rather give an EPT that can benefit every shot she takes like Predator (since she can take up to 4 shots per turn and FCS won't help if you are switching front and back). With Predator you can drop FCS and instead give her Sensor Jammer for more protection. This works especially well with Hotshot Copilot since you can make sure that anyone in a position to attack QD has no Focus tokens left when they come to shoot.

62 Rear Admiral Chiraneau (46), Adaptability (0), Vader (3), Gunner (5), Hotshot Copilot (4), EU (4)
38 Quickdraw (29), Predator (3), Sensor Jammer (4), Lightweight Frame (2), Special Ops Training (0)

This....is a great list. Will have to give it a try.

Edit:Worth pointing out that if your opponent knows you're targeting Fenn Rau he can give him 3 focus.

Edited by Goseki1
2 minutes ago, Goseki1 said:

Edit:Worth pointing out that if your opponent knows you're targeting Fenn Rau he can give him 3 focus.

He certainly can but Vader/Gunner will still kill Rau in 2 turns if he tries. :D

54 minutes ago, Karhedron said:

He certainly can but Vader/Gunner will still kill Rau in 2 turns if he tries. :D

There's no Vader in this squad.

59 minutes ago, Goseki1 said:

This....is a great list. Will have to give it a try.

Edit:Worth pointing out that if your opponent knows you're targeting Fenn Rau he can give him 3 focus.

That leaves the ship with 1 focus to use on attacking and defending against Quickdraw and is going to end up attacking or defending with no mods.

Indeed, just thought it was worth mentioning. He could easily save all focus for defense to keep being a distraction. It's battery than being us joy at with mods though!

3 hours ago, Goseki1 said:

Indeed, just thought it was worth mentioning. He could easily save all focus for defense to keep being a distraction. It's battery than being us joy at with mods though!

Hot shot forces them to spend the focus on each rac shot so he only has 1 of 3 focus to make a n actually choice with

But rac can't shoot every thing and expertise ships will love your choice of sensor jammer

On 3/3/2017 at 2:52 PM, WWHSD said:
On 3/3/2017 at 1:58 PM, Karhedron said:
On 3/3/2017 at 1:53 PM, Goseki1 said:
On 3/1/2017 at 0:12 PM, Karhedron said:

62 Rear Admiral Chiraneau (46), Adaptability (0), Vader (3), Gunner (5), Hotshot Copilot (4), EU (4)
38 Quickdraw (29), Predator (3), Sensor Jammer (4), Lightweight Frame (2), Special Ops Training (0)

This....is a great list. Will have to give it a try.

Edit:Worth pointing out that if your opponent knows you're targeting Fenn Rau he can give him 3 focus.

He certainly can but Vader/Gunner will still kill Rau in 2 turns if he tries. :D

There's no Vader in this squad.

Yes there is, Vader, Gunner and Hotshot Copilot.

43 minutes ago, Karhedron said:

Yes there is, Vader, Gunner and Hotshot Copilot.

The magnificent three!

My favorite QD load out is Adaptability, Accuracy Corrector, Pattern Analyzer, Shield Upgrade/Lightweight Frame depending on points.

I don't really like Engine Upgrade on RAC if you have Kylo, great on the Vader version though.

I think Quickdraw works better in a kamikaze configuration (Rage + eBaffles).

If you want a tooled-up SF that will survive longer, I think that Backdraft is actually a better bet, especially with the free crit from the rear arc. Backdraft will want to fire both front and rear arcs as often as possible to get that extra crit (no real bonus from using the extra red on the primary arc) so FCS is not always the best choice, Predator for guaranteed rerolls may be better. That leaves the system slot free for Sensor Jammer if you are running Hotshot Copilot to strip tokens.

I played Rac as is , but gave Qd Adapt plus 1 , so she became 10

Played a friend of mine, how flew Hansolo (tfa) version, And a lothal rebell, obliterated him with kylo ren, han shot ones, and then died, Qd shot 2 times with the ability, made its points. But i think that if i would like drop anything then i would drop EU on rac and Sensorcluster on QD, but what will i ad for the extra 6 points then ,, Hmm.

Edited by IgotTargetlocked

I will try with Electronic baffle and rage this coming week , Perhaps a pattern analyzer .

On 3/3/2017 at 2:30 PM, Parakitor said:

Yeah, we all know about Baffle Quickdraw, so if somebody doesn't suggest it, they probably don't want a suicide 'ace'.

Its an option that you controls, when you recieve the damage for the extra attack.

The Rage option is more suicide because you end the phase with 1 stress.

PTL + Pattern + lightweight , gives to Quick more options after you lose your 3 shields. making green maneuvers or with a support ship like Upsilon.

MKII eengine works also well with PTL + Pattern.

Not a huge fan of Baffle. I think bringing up QDs PS so she attacks first with an FCS is a scary prospect. Take Focus or BR each round (Pattern Analyzer gives SF an amazing dial, so even action on reds). So now you have a QD who attacked first for a TL, may still have her Focus to defend with, and still has full shields for revengeance.