Thanks to you all. As I am focused in our weekly Epic I am not really aware of the Meta tactics. This card, perhaps I am wrong, is a response to mitigate the effects of some habitual sinergyes.

Really not a top crewmember if you are flying generic pilots. Good but not Tier card.

Good luck and safe landings

4 hours ago, Marinealver said:

Because Expertise immediately made it obsolete.

That's why you put it with Rebel Captive :V

23 hours ago, Jarval said:

It's a pricey upgrade, but combined with Gunner it makes it much easier to punch through token stacks. You definitely want it in high PS ships to get the most out of it, which is why I've mostly seen it on Han and VI RAC so far.

In short, it's not something to put on any ship with a crew slot, but on the right pilot it can be devastating.

One of the issues with it is that a pricy ship with that pricy update stripping one focus token and doing one damage each turn is a worst case scenario with hotshot. Palpatine can be used to change an evade to an blank too and the use of the evade token is still optional. Still great against mindlink lists, not so great against defenders, but against those high ps ships are worth something at least.

12 minutes ago, thespaceinvader said:

That's why you put it with Rebel Captive :V

And you lost all the bonuses with Gunner. Is a difficult choice.

Anyway, as said, there's a lot of mindlink lists over here so...maybe it will works.


****, it will work even with Rex Crew D:

3 minutes ago, Cerve said:

And you lost all the bonuses with Gunner. Is a difficult choice.

Anyway, as said, there's a lot of mindlink lists over here so...maybe it will works.


****, it will work even with Rex Crew D:

Not on a Decimator you didn't.

The best single place for HotCoP is Rear Admiral Chiraneau. COuld have been written for him.

On 2/28/2017 at 3:21 AM, Stay On The Leader said:

http://stayontheleader.blogspot.co.uk/2016/11/upgrade-spotlight-hotshot-co-pilot.html

This might help explain it a bit!

Have you run that Han/Poe list much? I have my own version of it I'd like to try out. I went with a tanky Han and title Poe to pull off target locks. Thoughts?

Han Solo (TFA) (46)
Determination (1)
Hotshot Co-pilot (4)
Gunner (5)
Inertial Dampeners (1)
Smuggling Compartment (0)
Countermeasures (3)
Millennium Falcon (1)

Poe Dameron (31)
Adaptability (0)
R5-P9 (3)
Autothrusters (2)
Black One (1)

Total: 98

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7 hours ago, Marinealver said:

Yeah but Juke takes up your EPT slot, so no crackshot or expertise of your own. Expertise is like Marksmanship only waayyyyy better.

The problem with the meta isn't the amount of token spam where Hot Shot Co-pilot (the topic of this thread) excels at, it is the free modifications from expertise, palp, Poe and others. You don't need focus tokens to get 1-2 hits into 3-4 hits. As for juke well if they got pilot skill you will have to be spending your evade before your attack so good bye Juke.

Juke is really only good with coms relay list where you can keep it but again Han Expertise does a good job of stripping it off. Or on green Squadron where you can combine it with snap shot.

... Defenders effectively have Comm Relay, as X7s are almost never going to be without their evades, which they can actually spend more liberally than a Comm Relay ship, since it doesn't ever eat into their action economy when they get the token back. Comms Relay ships want to hang on to that Evade even at the cost of damage sometimes, since it really lowers their damage output to have to slap an Evade token back on there.

Expertise is good, but it's not THAT good, and it's expensive... And it doesn't help with defense. You don't see Expertise often in the meta, meaning Hotshot is still doing just fine, and it can be a lifesaver against ships that are otherwise very difficult to hit.

VI RAC w/ Hotshot, Gunner, and Vader is an ace killer, and isn't the nicest thing for non-aces to see across the table, either.

EDIT: Silly doubled post.

1 hour ago, ArbitraryNerd said:

... Defenders effectively have Comm Relay, as X7s are almost never going to be without their evades, which they can actually spend more liberally than a Comm Relay ship, since it doesn't ever eat into their action economy when they get the token back. Comms Relay ships want to hang on to that Evade even at the cost of damage sometimes, since it really lowers their damage output to have to slap an Evade token back on there.

Expertise is good, but it's not THAT good, and it's expensive... And it doesn't help with defense. You don't see Expertise often in the meta, meaning Hotshot is still doing just fine, and it can be a lifesaver against ships that are otherwise very difficult to hit.

VI RAC w/ Hotshot, Gunner, and Vader is an ace killer, and isn't the nicest thing for non-aces to see across the table, either.

Vader is tasty AF and if you're only really concerned about aces, definitely the best choice - but I think Captive has more overall utility in the meta at the moment - not least because of its interaction with Expertise as noted above.

11 minutes ago, thespaceinvader said:

Vader is tasty AF and if you're only really concerned about aces, definitely the best choice - but I think Captive has more overall utility in the meta at the moment - not least because of its interaction with Expertise as noted above.

My problem with Reb Cap on a Decimator is that is skews target priority towards the Deci's partner -- if that is your goal, then great! If not, then crap! Some enemy lists prefer to attack or ignore the Deci as well, so the latter don't much mind.

Also, it's only a mild nuisance, because a skilled player should be able to manage the stress/make sure it's assigned in the least damaging way. Same goes for Attani lists.

Blocking Expertise is nice, but where are you seeing Expertise in such high quantity that you feel a need to counter it, you know?

Vader is always somewhat effective, though I fully agree he's a lot less viable in any matchup not featuring an "Ace". With Paratanni and Triple Defenders being a large portion of the meta, though, Vader gets plenty of use.

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3 minutes ago, ArbitraryNerd said:

My problem with Reb Cap on a Decimator is that is skews target priority towards the Deci's partner -- if that is your goal, then great! If not, then crap! Some enemy lists prefer to attack or ignore the Deci as well, so the latter don't much mind.

Also, it's only a mild nuisance, because a skilled player should be able to manage the stress/make sure it's assigned in the least damaging way. Same goes for Attani lists.

Blocking Expertise is nice, but where are you seeing Expertise in such high quantity that you feel a need to counter it, you know?

Vader is always somewhat effective, though I fully agree he's a lot less viable in any matchup not featuring an "Ace". With Paratanni and Triple Defenders being a large portion of the meta, though, Vader gets plenty of use.

I'ts particularly painful on Big Rey, but that's a peculiarity of my local club - it's also arguably more useful against mindlink lists.

The targetting priority thing is definitely important, that's why I've recently been running it with Kylo pilot because screw your targetting priority.

3 hours ago, gennataos said:

Have you run that Han/Poe list much? I have my own version of it I'd like to try out. I went with a tanky Han and title Poe to pull off target locks. Thoughts?

Han Solo (TFA) (46)
Determination (1)
Hotshot Co-pilot (4)
Gunner (5)
Inertial Dampeners (1)
Smuggling Compartment (0)
Countermeasures (3)
Millennium Falcon (1)

Poe Dameron (31)
Adaptability (0)
R5-P9 (3)
Autothrusters (2)
Black One (1)

Total: 98

View in Yet Another Squad Builder

Yeah I played it enough to fall out with it. Poe is just about the least effective way of spending 35-40pts - having to keep focus for his regen makes him one of the worst offensive pilots in the game.

Han was fun to scare people with but when I switched to the classic Han with Engine it's just better.

Norra Wexley + Expertise + R2-D2 + Alliance Overhaul (37)
Miranda Doni + Twin Laser Turret + Homing Missiles + Long-Range Scanners (40)
Ahsoka Tano + Veteran Instincts + Hotshot Co-pilot + Sabine's Masterpiece (23)

Not so powerfull, but hit like hummer when you have expirience with list.

There must be a way to pair Opportunist with Hotshot copilot, RIGHT?

How about:

Bossk (35), Veteran Instincts (1), Hot Shot Copilot(4)

Tansarri Point Veteran(17), Opportunist(4), Heavy Scyk(2), Heavy Laser Cannon(7)

Tansarri Point Veteran(17), Opportunist(4), Heavy Scyk(2), Heavy Laser Cannon(7)

100 pts

Bossk strips tokens and the Scyks shoot attack 5 HLC at long range.