"New" ship in a short story on the Star Wars website

By Underachiever599, in X-Wing

Sounds like the Star Wars equivalent of the F-82 or Twin Mustang. I hope it's not a future model.

7 minutes ago, Stoneface said:

Sounds like the Star Wars equivalent of the F-82 or Twin Mustang. I hope it's not a future model.

My thoughts exactly, save that I wouldn't mind it being a model. Like the Twin Pod Cloud Car. . .for SSSPPPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACCEE!!

1 minute ago, Darth Meanie said:

My thoughts exactly, save that I wouldn't mind it being a model. Like the Twin Pod Cloud Car. . .for SSSPPPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACCEE!!

No, please no. One of the problems with the Twin Mustang was when the pilot did a roll. If he performed a straight aileron roll, the RIO was subjected to a lot of G force. While the pilot was on the center axis of the roll, the RIO was not and tended to "grey out" from the roll. Always stay good friends with the pilot!

Did you guys read the story, there's several pics of the ship and it spears to only have one cockpit. Plus wookiepedia listing has it listed as a modified a wing, I'm noy sure where the assumption comes from that it is anything like the double mustang.

10 minutes ago, Stew00m said:

I'm noy sure where the assumption comes from that it is anything like the double mustang.

The assumption is coming from the op describing it as a "double a" a-wing and people thinking that meant it looked like it was comprised of 2 a-wings somehow.

17 minutes ago, Stew00m said:

Did you guys read the story, there's several pics of the ship and it spears to only have one cockpit. Plus wookiepedia listing has it listed as a modified a wing, I'm noy sure where the assumption comes from that it is anything like the double mustang.

The only picture in the story of the double-A is a sideview. The three pictures are the protagonist's A-wing. (The double-A has a mirrored finish, not a scarred purple paint job.)

I doubt it's like a cloud-car, or a double Mustang, but it can't be ruled out from the illustrations.

6 minutes ago, Jeff Wilder said:

The only picture in the story of the double-A is a sideview. The three pictures are the protagonist's A-wing. (The double-A has a mirrored finish, not a scarred purple paint job.)

I doubt it's like a cloud-car, or a double Mustang, but it can't be ruled out from the illustrations.

Throughout the story, it's described as looking like an ordinary A-Wing. Greer didn't even realize it was a special A-Wing until the other pilot explicitly mentioned that it was a newer model. So I think it's safe to assume, it looks like an ordinary A-Wing with a flashy paint job. It just happens to have better engines and maneuverability.

I'm more interested in the idea of a multi faction race with obstacles and other hazards as a new game mode.

It could just be a two seater, like a trainer. Some AC had mods that alowwed a trainee and pilot to share the same space without changing the profile.

It's probably the new one from ep8. Continuing tfa's lack of new ship designs unfortunately.

Yeah I read about the mirrored surface and didn't consider the picture wasn't the a wing.

however there's nothing in the arcticle to imply it's some sort of combined twin cockpit ship.

Now after reading the whole thing, I'm kinda annoyed about who was flying the "Double A". And I totally agree that the story never described the ship as anything but shiny. I'm not sure where people got the idea of a double cockpit, except for the name of "Double A"

from the look of it, the new souped up A-wing is based of fthe ones from Rebels, which are the 'default' version. basic space superiority fighter. (the version from ROTJ is officially a stripped down version, amping up the speed at the expense of firepower and protection.)
from the story:

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Rebels:

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the "AA-wing" may be an attempt to fit the rebellion refit's speed into the firepower and protection of the standard. it actually looks somewhat like the leaked A-wing from EpVIII. what little has leaked from the sets of "the last jedi" is that at least one A-wing appears.. the tiny fragment we see is clearly not a Rebellion Awing, though it has many similar features. odds are it will be a "2nd gen" A-wing, much like how the T-70 is a "2nd Gen" X-wing. (pics from a visit by Prince William and Prince Harry.)
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15 hours ago, Stoneface said:

No, please no. One of the problems with the Twin Mustang was when the pilot did a roll. If he performed a straight aileron roll, the RIO was subjected to a lot of G force. While the pilot was on the center axis of the roll, the RIO was not and tended to "grey out" from the roll. Always stay good friends with the pilot!

C'mon, this would be a great in game mechanic. A-Wing with a crew slot: on any turn you perform a barrel roll action, you may not use the crew's ability!! :blink:

Ossifrage (unique)

A-Wing only. Title.

Your action bar gains the Barrel Roll action icon.

Double-A (unique)

A-Wing only. Title.

When performing a [boost] action, you must use the speed-2 maneuver template.

EPS 8 A-wing like the EPS 7 X-wing is my guess.

8 minutes ago, Odanan said:

Ossifrage (unique)

A-Wing only. Title.

Your action bar gains the Barrel Roll action icon.

Ossifrage (unique)

A-Wing only. Title.

If you collide with an obstacle or another ship you may immediately barrel roll as a free action if able, if you do ignore the collision.

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8 minutes ago, Jetfire said:

EPS 8 A-wing like the EPS 7 X-wing is my guess.

And they both are based on the early concept arts for ANH.

Hmmm I hope the Y-Wing don't follow the trend...

Early X-Wing concept art (became the T-70).

Early A-Wing concept art (became the Rebels' A-Wing - and most likely the A-Wing in Ep. 8).

Early Y-Wing concept art. And another.

1 hour ago, Darth Meanie said:

C'mon, this would be a great in game mechanic. A-Wing with a crew slot: on any turn you perform a barrel roll action, you may not use the crew's ability!! :blink:

Condition: Double A-Wing only. After performing a barrel roll, roll an attack die. On a hit or a crit your RIO has puked and shorted out your targeting computer. You lose the Target Lock action.

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14 hours ago, markcsoul said:

It's probably the new one from ep8. Continuing tfa's lack of new ship designs unfortunately.

What do you mean? It's red with a white stripe.

1 hour ago, Darth Meanie said:

C'mon, this would be a great in game mechanic. A-Wing with a crew slot: on any turn you perform a barrel roll action, you may not use the crew's ability!! :blink:

The A-Wing doesn't have the barrel roll action. Maybe this is why? Planning ahead.

Well, either that or the card design and font selection prevents any more than 4 icons on the action bar.

The 'Double A' moniker seems to be linked to what's under the hood and the dashboard, although the comparison to the twin Mustang is a lot of fun.

Seriously, I read the story and it is not particularly well written. Han in the Double-A seems close to jumping the carcharodon to me. I know he was a racer in his younger days and I've seen where he's indulge his wild streak in the old EU, but it still came across as a phoned in short story. I'm not an author but as particular as they are with SW canon these days, the vetting process could be a bit more meticulous.

I know they want to keep the weeds out of the canon, but there could be a way for authors to include new ships. Maybe just don't give it a make and model. Something like, "Aside from the spaceframe, few original parts remained of Greer's racer. It had taken all her ingenuity and then some to cram the overcharged engines into the long, narrow hull." Then characters aren't limited to the stable of the most common ships in a very large and diverse galaxy.

5 hours ago, IronOx said:

The 'Double A' moniker seems to be linked to what's under the hood and the dashboard, although the comparison to the twin Mustang is a lot of fun.

So this means there's no chance of a AAA-Wing or a Button 1.5V-Wing?

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This story was actually in Insider magazine last year, as a prelude to the Bloodlines novel - so it's not really "new" information.

Looking at it, the description (for example the wiki doesn't treat it as any different from an A, just like the story - and they're citing tweets and stuff from story group members so if there was any mention of if it's a new ship they'd probably know) and general look, it doesn't seem like it's a proper new model like the T-70 or T-85. The original A-Wing is now a early empire model, just like the TIE/LN, and then the ROTJ version we see is hot-rodded by rebel engineers to keep up with newer model ships like TIE/INs. The "Double-A" sounds a lot like a refit done again of one of those models which could just be an RZ-1 model with some extra greebles at the end - not that it's a new production run or anything. Despite the look being similar, the jump to T-65 to T-70 does appear to be an actual difference in underlying tech, structural elements, capability, etc.

It'll be interesting to see if they actually rate a new model of A-Wing, or if the ship's core design remains unchanged and just various manufacturers occasionally design new components to fit in the same old space.

Having seen this argument on Reddit before though, take heart if you want more A-Wing stuff in the game, they could easily HOTR the ship to produce a few new pilots and upgrades and put them with Resistance card backs.