What about PTL on the red veterans and R2 astromech? Same price, more options.

That's 90 points. What else is on them?

7 hours ago, Stefan said:

That's 90 points. What else is on them?

I was replying to @Jiron he was thinking about 2 snapshot RSV using targeting astromech.

4 hours ago, BlodVargarna said:

I was replying to @Jiron he was thinking about 2 snapshot RSV using targeting astromech.

I tend to use the RSV to occationally block for Poe so I don't really like sticking PTL on them as it's "action-reliant". I would rathers put on Predator, especially when 4 Azuitucks are a thing.

You know, I was asking about Snapshot because it gives me more attack dice in a firefight, not modified from either side. But do you think it's a dead end?

In general, Snap shot is fantastic both on nien nunb stressbot and in lists with operations specialist as jousting efficiency skyrockets if you trigger snap shot (you either damage their ship or put a focus where it's most needed).

For your list, snap shot really helps add an element of area control and close range firepower. Snap shot works really well with aggressive kturns and talons if that's how you fly. The targeting astro fits that style as well. Another benefit often forgotten is that snap shot makes lower ps ships more relevant in a late game situation chasing ships with higher ps as you can catch them before action and hit before focus. The firepower can change how you approach matches - in particular, games against large base ships with limited dials.

Try it. It's probably my favorite ept and it plays well on multiple t-70s that can focus fire or cover each other.

I would guess it's a great EPT, but I'm not confident (yet) in my flying abilities to actually make it work.

I’ve had success with Snapshot stressbot Nien and a TL from M9-G8. Unrelated to 3T70s, GSP A wings with Juke or snapshot are also effective.

I agree with @Ohnoeszz , give the snapshot RSVs a try. Let us know how they do.

One thing with snapshot, I’ve found it’s not great to build an entire strategy around (except The Nien build) as you will find 2 naked reds underwhelming.

I see Nien, I just stopped playing him because he's really bad in the Nym-meta. Will keep that in mind.

52 minutes ago, Stefan said:

I see Nien, I just stopped playing him because he's really bad in the Nym-meta. Will keep that in mind.

Yeah being at range one in a world of range one auto damage is not really the best place to be.

1 hour ago, BlodVargarna said:

Yeah being at range one in a world of range one auto damage is not really the best place to be.

Scum Nym would just smash into his face, bomb him and chuckle at his cute Snap/Stress mechanic.

10 minutes ago, gennataos said:

Scum Nym would just smash into his face, bomb him and chuckle at his cute Snap/Stress mechanic.

Right. This makes me question snapshot on x wings as a good EPT. For the same points as Snapshot and targeting astromech you can get PTL and a R2 astromech to easily clear the stress. Focus + TL at range 2-3 seems a better place to be these days than trying to set up R1 Snapshots.

I can see the snapshot t-70s being decent against other ships though. Get a R1 attack with 2 dice, then a 4 dice R1 attack. Nym is prolific but not everywhere all the time.

7 minutes ago, BlodVargarna said:

Right. This makes me question snapshot on x wings as a good EPT. For the same points as Snapshot and targeting astromech you can get PTL and a R2 astromech to easily clear the stress. Focus + TL at range 2-3 seems a better place to be these days than trying to set up R1 Snapshots.

I can see the snapshot t-70s being decent against other ships though. Get a R1 attack with 2 dice, then a 4 dice R1 attack. Nym is prolific but not everywhere all the time.

Yeah, like with most lists choices, I think you just have to make some meta calls and pick your poison. I loathe RAC-lo (actually, Kylo in all forms), so in a tournament situation, I'll usually fly something which I think can handle that. That'll leave me open to other things or with sub-optimal builds (who else runs Determination Rey?!?). If you think Nym is something you have to account for, which he probably is, then you'll need to do that.

On 10/16/2017 at 2:45 PM, Stefan said:

Yeah, sorry, that's what I meant. Poetensity is pretty cool in conjunction with other stuff, but I found no way to make it work with T210, and that's what the thread is about

I was so excited when I first saw Intensity - specifically for my X-Wings. But, yeah, other than being an ok variant for end game Poe, I've been pretty disappointed. I wish the recharge mechanism was something different; something that wasn't a direct counter to its benefit.

4 hours ago, BlodVargarna said:

Right. This makes me question snapshot on x wings as a good EPT. For the same points as Snapshot and targeting astromech you can get PTL and a R2 astromech to easily clear the stress. Focus + TL at range 2-3 seems a better place to be these days than trying to set up R1 Snapshots.

Here's my T-70 Snap Shot List. We've been calling it Poe's Echelon at the store. It's fun and reliable to fly.

Red Squadron Veteran [R2 Astromech, Pattern Analyzer, Snap Shot, Integrated Astromech] (31) x 2
Poe Dameron (PS8 Version) [BB-8, Primed Thrusters, Intensity, Autothrusters] (38)

Right-o. Tournament coming up and I’m determined to fly at least one t-70. I’ve got a Rey/Poe (or Nien), a Dash/Poe, but I want a triple T-70 in the testing too as I miss flying them.

The most evil builds look like a RAClo and a triple Regen rebel (Miranda, Horton with R5P9, Kyle with pulsed ray shield and all rocking TLT). Probably be a DenNym in the background to account for the three better players guaranteed to be there.

I’m staring at my iPad and stuck on rehashing the stuff I’ve done already. Anyone want to inspire me?

2 hours ago, Estarriol said:

Right-o. Tournament coming up and I’m determined to fly at least one t-70. I’ve got a Rey/Poe (or Nien), a Dash/Poe, but I want a triple T-70 in the testing too as I miss flying them.

The most evil builds look like a RAClo and a triple Regen rebel (Miranda, Horton with R5P9, Kyle with pulsed ray shield and all rocking TLT). Probably be a DenNym in the background to account for the three better players guaranteed to be there.

I’m staring at my iPad and stuck on rehashing the stuff I’ve done already. Anyone want to inspire me?

Might I suggest Jess and the Jukes? It'd actually have a decent matchup against all of those lists you mentioned.

Green Squadron Pilot (19)
Juke (2)
Chardaan Refit (-2)
Snap Shot (2)
Autothrusters (2)
A-Wing Test Pilot (0)

Green Squadron Pilot (19)
Juke (2)
Chardaan Refit (-2)
Snap Shot (2)
Autothrusters (2)
A-Wing Test Pilot (0)

Green Squadron Pilot (19)
Juke (2)
Chardaan Refit (-2)
Snap Shot (2)
Autothrusters (2)
A-Wing Test Pilot (0)

Jess Pava (25)
R2-D6 (1)
Pattern Analyzer (2)
Swarm Leader (3)
Integrated Astromech (0)

Total: 100

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Jess/Jukes is cool but not 3T70.

Here’s something a little different:

(100)

Nien Nunb (37) - T-70 X-Wing
Stay On Target (2), Flechette Torpedoes (2), Targeting Astromech (2), Pattern Analyzer (2), Integrated Astromech (0)

Red Squadron Veteran (29) - T-70 X-Wing
Wired (1), R3-A2 (2), Integrated Astromech (0)

"Snap" Wexley (34) - T-70 X-Wing
Adaptability (0), BB-8 (2), Primed Thrusters (1), Black One (1), Autothrusters (2)

Fully modified shots from Nein, and a wide open dial.

Stress control with red vet (and chance for double stress with Nein)

Mobility / flanking with Snap.

37 minutes ago, BlodVargarna said:

Jess/Jukes is cool but not 3T70.

Ooops, sleepy eyes misread @Estarriol 's post! Thought he only wanted to make sure there was a T-70 in the list.

I’ve tried Jess and the jukes once, and it didn’t go well. I should try more than once but I haven’t got much time to settle on a list and practice it

I like the look of SoT Nien so I might give that a go with some tweaking

"Snap" Wexley (34) - T-70 X-Wing
Adaptability (0), BB-8 (2), Primed Thrusters (1), Black One (1), Autothrusters (2)

Snap needs VI to equip B1.

As adaptability doesn't modify Pilot skill until deployment.

13 minutes ago, Estarriol said:

I’ve tried Jess and the jukes once, and it didn’t go well. I should try more than once but I haven’t got much time to settle on a list and practice it

As much as that list is viewed as a jousting list, it's really not. Depending on the matchup, it requires a great deal of patience and a fair amount of forethought. I'm developing the opinion that Jess isn't actually the best fit for the list, anyway.

23 minutes ago, Sk3tch said:

"Snap" Wexley (34) - T-70 X-Wing
Adaptability (0), BB-8 (2), Primed Thrusters (1), Black One (1), Autothrusters (2)

Snap needs VI to equip B1.

As adaptability doesn't modify Pilot skill until deployment.

Good catch

Guys, I somehow lost my track in the rules...

I have PTL+Primed Thrusters. I make Talon Roll. Now I can do boost thanks to the Primed Thrusters, however, can I start PTL as well and give Focus?

Thanks!

5 minutes ago, Jiron said:

Guys, I somehow lost my track in the rules...

I have PTL+Primed Thrusters. I make Talon Roll. Now I can do boost thanks to the Primed Thrusters, however, can I start PTL as well and give Focus?

Thanks!

No. Because you still can't do actions whilst stressed; primed thrusters is only an exception for boost and barrel roll.

If you had vectored thrusters, you could talon roll, then boost, then push the limit specifically to barrel roll.

On 10/15/2017 at 2:24 AM, Stefan said:

surefire

Why why stop at 3?