Say you have a coat, armor and clothing over the armor is that possible? Oggdude's creator says no.

If not what would be a way to disguise something like the shadow suit?

You can wear more than one piece of clothing, regardless of what Oggdude's app allows, provided that the items might reasonably fit one over the other. But you cannot benefit from more than one item, unless your GM allows it (via house rule). A common example of wearing two items that are usually allowed to work together is a set of padded armor (for the soak) and a utility vest (for the pockets). Though I've personally stopped using this combo because a military pack with pouches, plus load-bearing gear, plus a utility belt (all 3 are allowed by Oggdude's in combo) usually suffices.

1 hour ago, TheShard said:

Say you have a coat, armor and clothing over the armor is that possible? Oggdude's creator says no.

If not what would be a way to disguise something like the shadow suit?

OggDude's building doesn't prevent you from wearing more than one, it just prevents you from gaining the bonus from more than one. It follows the rules as outline in the books and clarified by the Developers (at least the most recent version). Since the second set of armor provides you no benefit from a mechanical perspective, OCB only tracks the weight. You do that by checking the "Carry" box.

Carry also affects encumbrance.

13 hours ago, ShadoWarrior said:

You can wear more than one piece of clothing, regardless of what Oggdude's app allows, provided that the items might reasonably fit one over the other. But you cannot benefit from more than one item, unless your GM allows it (via house rule). A common example of wearing two items that are usually allowed to work together is a set of padded armor (for the soak) and a utility vest (for the pockets). Though I've personally stopped using this combo because a military pack with pouches, plus load-bearing gear, plus a utility belt (all 3 are allowed by Oggdude's in combo) usually suffices.

Another example would be wearing some armor for the soak and add a deflector shield for the defense. That should work iirc as well. What you don't get is stacking defense or soak and the GM is the always the last instance what you can wear over each other.

The smugglers coat would be another example of something to fear to the pockets, instead of protection.

6 hours ago, TheShard said:

Carry also affects encumbrance.

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Question asked by Darth Poopdeck:

Does soak stack if you wear 2 different armors at the same time? Like a Catch Vest and a Nomad Greatcoat.

Answered by Sam Stewart:

Nope, you only get the mechanical benefit of one. However, if you really like the effect of the vest and the looks of a greatcoat, you can certainly get the thematic benefits of wearing a greatcoat over your vest, which presumably involves all of your PC’s friends saying how cool your PC looks.

I assume that "only get the mechanical benefit of one" would include not getting any sort of encumbrance reduction for wearing a second set of armor, since that is quite clearly a mechanical benefit. So again mechanically, carrying one is no different than wearing one.

Of course if your GM deems otherwise, you could easily create a gear version of the armor you are looking to stack and add it via the data editor. Gear is setup to allow multiples to be equipped. Of course the Soak and Defensive stacking rules are hardwired into the builder so you'd have to be more creative if you were looking to represent that housesule. Maybe by giving the stacked armor ranks of the Enduring talent instead.

Personally, I think allowing players to stack armor is a slippery slope but hey, if your GM is game, it's certainly possible in the OCB.

It's not the stacking of protection I'm interested in. It saddens logical to wear a shadow suit under something baggy to disguise the suit, and still wear a big coat...

Sounds reasonable. I'd say let common sense be yours, or your GMs guide. There is no up/down, never/always answer.

I've house ruled that if common sense says you can wear it together. So no you can't wear a suit of Laminate over a suit of Heavy Battle Armor. But, you could use a Blast Vest over Heavy Clothing. Then, you get the best stat from either (Defense, Soak, HP) while combining only the Encumbrance. You also retain any special attributes from each, such as the environmental bonus for Adverse Environment Gear.

I think that's a very reasonable way to handle it.

3 hours ago, TheShard said:

I think that's a very reasonable way to handle it.

It seems to be as well how Ogg Dude's CharGen handles things.

7 minutes ago, SEApocalypse said:

It seems to be as well how Ogg Dude's CharGen handles things.

Not quite, as I don't think he's granting the special benefits from the second (or third) set of clothes. Just tacking on the added encumbrance when the 2nd/3rd set is carried. To be worn (and get the associated bennies), it must be equipped and you can't do that from what I recall.

Combining a piece of defense armor with a soak armor works just fine, easy to test too. Generator does not support wearing more than two pieces though. Boni from armor attachments are applied as well from both, I just tested it with an artisan with personal stealth deflector and an n-57, adding to both attachments which improve skills. Defense from one, soak from the other. The oddest thing is that when wearing both only one is applying encumbrance, which sounds like a bug. I run 1.7.

Thanks, SEA. Useful to know.,

Well the idea was to wear a shadow suit, simple clothes over the suit and coat, oggdude's creator will let you wear two items.

Wearing anything over the shadow suit would totally negate its benefits. You'd get the benefit of the suit's soak 1 and 1 HP, and that is all.

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Oh I know but you can't just walk around town in a shadow suit yah knows?

Anything else I could disguise the suit with? Besides just wearing something over it?

Anything your GM will allow, but honestly, wearing bulky clothing obviously over more clothing doesn't disguise anything, it makes you stand out and be noticed more frequently by the authorities.

Can I wear my underpants/boxer shorts over my jeans/pants then?

8 minutes ago, ExpandingUniverse said:

Can I wear my underpants/boxer shorts over my jeans/pants then?

Sure ... if ya wanna look like an idiot.

1 minute ago, ShadoWarrior said:

Sure ... if ya wanna look like an idiot.

Say that to the Dark Night... or The Tick... yeah you go run hide LOL

1 hour ago, TheShard said:

Anything else I could disguise the suit with? Besides just wearing something over it?

I'd suggest cheap robes. Something which conceals the suit that you can toss away (or stuff into a shoulder tote) when you really need to use the stealth suit for its intended purpose.

Robes/ cloaks are the usual disguise option.. I think we use them every other week when running around Tatooine on the run from someone or other