It caught my attention the first time I read it. "Roll an additional die of the same type". Of course, the only die that generates a righteous success is old Yellow, the Expertise die. I suspect the wording is intentional, and that we'll see other types of dice in the future that can generate a righteous success.

Maybe we'll see new dice for highly experienced characters? Maybe there's an orange D12 coming?

DagobahDave said:

Interesting. I wonder if some cards will allow a Success or Boon to be treated as a Righteous Success as well.

Its possible, but im not sure they would want to convolute a system that already works very smoothly. I'm not saying it is a terrible idea, I just dont think it's going to happen.

I agree that it doesn't seem likely for them to continue adding dice types.

Talent or Action cards already exist that allow rerolls. It's not unlikely that we'll see others that change the die roll in other ways.

In descent they have added silver and gold d6, wich works pretty much like the expertise die. you trade 2 ordinary d6 for one silver d6 and two silver d6 for a gold d6.

it will not surprise me if we see somthing like this for warhammer as well. And that some advanced action cards will have like 6 successes to achieve something spectacular.

That could be an interesting mechanic, special dice for the 3rd and 4th tier careers.

Mal Reynolds said:

So there's a precedent for it. That's good to know.

I was wondering about the color, and had considered metallics. I wouldn't expect a dice to have more than 1 facing with a "righteous success" result, but I can imagine something like a "Mastery" die that's better than Expertise. Maybe you'd use a Mastery die when you've picked up all three levels of training in a skill. That sort of die might have fewer blank faces and more success/hammer faces.

UncleArkie said:

That's what I'd expect. Really, there are lots of ways to introduce a new die to the game. It could be part of an advanced career's ability card, something such as "When performing any Agility-based action, add one Mastery die". Or, it could be a die reserved for high-powered spellcasting, such as a Dhar (dark magic) die that has the potential for lots of successes but also includes a Chaos star result (which would be the first time we've seen a negative result on an "ability" die, but would be appropriate when messing about with dark magic).

I'd expect the colour of the die to remain consistent, just with the number of faces changing. So, we'd perhaps see D8 or D10 style expertise for more advanced careers. I figure that they can use the same notation, eg yellow diamond or yellow circle in the text to make the game more consistency. The last thing you want is adding unnecessary complication by introducing new die colours when the current ones will suffice.

but I don't want a new dice... There's enough of them... uber-good (skill), good (abilities, reckless and conservatives), semi-good (fortune), semi-bad (misfortune), bad (challenge)... I remember Rodney's review from WOTC Star Wars saying is might be a little too much yet

in Descent the gold and silver dice are metallic, they have more of the good symbols, like double or tripple on some sides. That I think will be difficult to achieve with the warhammer symbols. One way of circumventing the whole thing is to add a + to the symbol, to represent that there are one extra symbol on that side.

I don`t know what FFG will do I am only speculating based on other games they have produced. And I am very sure new dice will be introduced along the way. And beside wouldn`t it be cool to have silver or gold metalic dice?

And I liked the idea that you could have a mastery die, what shape would it be? But I don`t hope they will introduce new symbols. 10 is enough.

The only extra die needed would be a witching die (for hedge wizards/witches that makes magic dangerous) otherwise we are good with what we have. The text is probobly there just in case they want to add more dice, it doesn't mean they will do it or even considers it, they just don't close any doors.

I interpreted the phrasing as more of a leftover from the development process. I imagine that the devs tried including the righteous success symbol on other dice during playtesting, but in the end settled on it only being on the Expertise die. The righteous success comes up pretty often, and having it appear on other dice... it'd be too much.

I'm not sure how I'm going to feel about rank 2 and rank 3 characters, each slinging 2 or 3 expertise dice on their core skills. That's a whole lotta exploding dice. But I guess thats where being ruthless with using gm's creature expertise pools comes in.

Too bad you can only use one expertise die from the expertise allotment for monster dice pools. It would be nice to see monsters having an ability to use more than one expertise die from the allotment. to give my players a shock (I roll dice openly) Muawahaha! than some bahahaha

Good Gaming

Actually I don't want another dice-shape. You don't need a "mastery" dice or sth. What would be after the mastery dice? A celestial dice made out of mythril? for only $99,99 ? Why not simply add another Expert dice for advanced careers as a cereer ability. Has it really to be a golden d12?

I think we all have spend enough money and the next two supplements (G-Storm and GM-Kit) will also cost enought. Ok, the quality is superb. I love this game. But I don't want to spend 30,- euro every 2 month just to be disappionted that I still haven't all the rules in version 3 that I had in the 2nd edition.

But... this game is modular and it's fun to create own cards so it doesn't matter that we yet don't have Rank 4 Amber-Order Spells, cause I made my own and had fun creating it.

Also, I would be pleased if FFG would release some free online supplements as PDFs like additional rules for advanced careers maybe action cards to print out or guidlines to create own careers. This would be a great trust proof and a Boon to WH3 customers!

Lautrer said:

You know what's sad? My reaction to this was, "Hey, that'd be cool. I'd buy that. $99 is pretty good for dice made out of a fictional substance."

Lautrer said:

I love this idea. It would even be nice if they just did more little give-away adventures like Day Late, Shilling Short for the community. Neat and weird careers and cards for those in the community would be even cooler.

Llanwyre said: