Would You Have Started This Game If It Was Not Star Wars

By Darth Meanie, in X-Wing

Nope. Passed by a demo at GenCon 2012. Wouldn't have looked twice if I hadn't seen the X-wing and TIEs.

Yes, probably. A friend introduced me to the game and I liked it very much, but I considered getting into Star Trek Attack Wing because I am more of a Trekkie than a Star Wars person. I learned more about both systems, weighed the pros and cons of both before deciding which one to invest in. Once I realized that the only pro Attack Wing had was "It's Star Trek," the choice became clear.

I was definitely hungry for this kind of game, though. I played a very similar older FFG game called Twilight Imperium: Armada. It's a DiskWars-style game that is many years old at this point, and no longer in print. It had many of the same features... you control ships where you pre-select your ship's orders ahead of time. Your ships are cardboard disks that you move by flipping them over a certain number of times in the direction they're supposed to move. In that game, each turn had 3 segments and your ship moved and fired each segment, but you could use the orders to change heading, speed, raise shields, or perform other special actions with crew members. The ships and upgrades were random in booster packs, which I didn't like. The game was already dead by the time I got into it so I got a lot of the stuff cheap from FFG's end-of-year sale. I played a bit with a couple of friends but we never got into it in a huge way, partly because nobody plays the game. X-Wing is a superior game in almost every respect, but I would have been just as happy playing it if it FFG had themed it around their in-house Twilight Imperium universe. However, I'm glad they used the Star Wars theme, as it clearly owes a lot of its success to that.

I will say that playing X-Wing has actually made me MORE of a Star Wars fan since getting into this game.

So, I stopped counting, since I've been told elsewhere that this is survey is in no way reflective of anything due to sample size bias, demographic bias, and my inability to understand equids and 2-wheeled conveyances, but it seems to me the answer is unquantifiably, generally, and unofficially

NO!

I shall now go spay a cat.

Edited by Darth Meanie

Depends, if it was WW2 or modern fighter planes then probably yes.

If it was BSG, possibly.

If it was Star Trek... probably not.

If it was a new IP then it would depend heavily on aesthetic.

Most likely not. It would depend on the genre they would have bundle it with.

No.

I had been looking at the ships for a long time, but couldn't justify paying $15 for 20 cents worth of plastic. I picked up Imperial Assault first actually, because at the time it was on sale on Amazon (roughly $70) and it had 2 modes of play: Campaign & Skirmish, so more bang for your buck. And I really enjoy painting minis.

A week later I still had the $30 that would have gone to IA burning a hole in my pocket, so I told myself that the TFA core set was basically for free. The lies we tell ourselves sometimes--sheesh!

Edited by Force Majeure
1 minute ago, Force Majeure said:

I had been looking at the ships for a long time, but couldn't justify paying $15 for 20 cents worth of plastic.

That's an odd sentiment... I don't know of any game that contains raw materials comparable to the MSRP. Imperial Assault doesn't contain $70 worth of plastic and paper. As for painting, yes that is fun, but also costs even more money.

6 minutes ago, Jetfire said:

That's an odd sentiment... I don't know of any game that contains raw materials comparable to the MSRP. Imperial Assault doesn't contain $70 worth of plastic and paper. As for painting, yes that is fun, but also costs even more money.

Maybe they could start making the game in Disneyworld with Mold-a-Rama machines. . . :P

No, and probably not if I hadn't played the complete X-wing series from 93'

No, my wife bought this for me as a Christmas gift a few years back, she only got it because it was Star Wars and I wasn't even aware of or interested in SW miniatures prior to that and would never have gotten into it on my own.

The star wars theme caught my eye but the gameplay sold me and holds me.

@Jetfire The cost, for me at least, wasn't just dollars. It was time away from my wife & kids, space for storage, and eventual expansions. Also I had no one to play with. I had never visited a game store "just to play" before, so that was another barrier that needed to be overcome.

IA on the other hand is pretty much self contained if you only run the Campaign. You can get away with just the core set if you really want to. And for whatever reason, my friends are more welcoming of this kind of game rather than X-wing, so getting games in didn't mean venturing out to play against strangers. Having said that, I look forward to playing at my local shop now that I'm a "regular".

I did play it without the Star Wars license. It was called Wings of War.

Nope, I'm here for the IP as well as the game. Wouldn't have taken my coworkers' invite up if it wasn't for the star wars angle and my nostalgia for the old xwing PC game series

ps - I don't even play empire much and I will buy assault gunboats. FFG you have been notified.

What would the "hook" have been instead?

It would have had to been something I was interested in seeing and models probably would have need to "speak" to me to get my attention. Having some use outside of the actual game would have been nice as well such as possibly supporting a RPG game would definitely be a plus.

Would I have started this game system if it wasn't StarWars? I'll give the good ole "maybe" but leaning "no" as it really wouldn't be the same game. Considering how the system show up other places I'll look at those and give my thought:

  • Star Trek: Only would have considered it for the models.
  • Attack Wing: If I hadn't been so turned away from DnD by 4e and didn't already have a huge supply of older plastic minis then maybe. Even then it would be more to support the RPG.
  • Wings of Glory: Sorry, not interested in old airplanes flying around.

As for if it were related to some of the other IPs I may have looked at it for BSG or B5 although a big part of me thinks B5 anyway would be better supported with Armada's system. Of course I haven't gotten into Armada, at least not yet, because it's another place to drop $$ on something I'd then need to find a place to put which isn't all that easy and which I probably wouldn't get to enjoy outside of visuals very often or even ever.

I didn't play any tabletop games before X-wing. In the years since its release I have still barely purchased or spent time playing any others besides Armada.

So no, I would not have even known this game existed if it wasn't Star Wars.

No. Though interesting, I have not picked up the similar Wings of Glory.

I would not have started this game if it wasn't Star Wars. The reason I know this is because I've passed on several games vaguely similar that were not SW, and because I did not play the WotC game about SW space battles.

Silent Death was the game about space battles with the best reputation, and maybe the system is better than that of X-Wing (I never learned the rules). It never occurred to me that I might have wanted to play that. I was not interested in Battlefleet Gothic either.

A friend once said to me that I will buy anything if it has a Star Wars logo on it. This is not true, but such a logo does switch off some of my rational abilities. So here I am, with a collection of about 30 ships (quick estimate).

Probably not.

I played Wings of War and I know Jay Little from an old Blood Bowl league, so probably yes.

Unlikely. Even when I first saw it I was meh. It was only when my mate started playing (because it was Star Wars) did I take it up.

No.

No.

Another question worth asking- Would you still play the game if the Star Wars skin was completely removed?

I think I would, but the excitement behind new releases and such would wane rather quickly, and it would probably be much easier to get out of.

Yes. Not sure I'd have stuck with it for so long though.

I started Android: Netrunner at around the same time, and I'm no longer playing that.