I have not played many TCGs, but the one I played most, Lord of the Rings TCG, had TONS of starter sets. There were about 30 give or take! My question is do you think it's likely we will see more starters? I am interested in the game, but almost hate Force Awakens with a passion. Is there any chance we'll get a Luke and Vader starter set, or an Anakin and Dooku one? I would definitely be more interested in the game then!

They are gonna have to do something. As it sits there are many people now that can't even pretend to get into the game.

Unless I'm mistaken, they have yet to announce whether or not Spirit of Rebellion will have starter sets associated. I think it would be smart to release them consistently because of the importance of characters in this game. If you try to build a deck on boosters alone you are at the mercy of pulling characters that will synergize. Even if starters continue to be 20 card decks, having 2 guaranteed characters is important to give anybody trying to get into the game something to build upon and variety in that regard is pretty essential IMO.

Yes, new starters will exist. I don't know if I'm making this up, or if this FFG's stance and I just forgot the source, but I think they're going to come out at about 1 starter per year? No idea if I'm making that up or not, but if I am, that'd be my guess.

Starter packs will probably coincide with Star Wars movies in an attempt to ride the wave of hype for that movie release. They won't come out as often as expansions for the game, but they'll continue to be introduced. If you wanted to get into Destiny but were waiting for another type of starter, you might be waiting until very late 2017 or early 2018.

Also, as a side note, it's weird to hear someone express hatred of a Star Wars movie that's not part of a prequel. I was briefly confounded.

6 minutes ago, CBMarkham said:

Also, as a side note, it's weird to hear someone express hatred of a Star Wars movie that's not part of a prequel. I was briefly confounded.

FA is not a great movie so I can understand it, now if they prefer the prequels I'd question sanity.

Also I believe that was FFG's plan to offer one starter a year and that just adds to the foolish marketing of this game. It may be a good game but their model to put it in players hands is a flaming bag of dog ****.

Yea, FFG announced there would be a new set of starters each year. Judging from other collectible games (cards and otherwise) one could expect new characters in each starter - so I doubt we'll see Rey in the one next year. I'm fully expecting starters geared toward the ST and OT first, I doubt we'll see a PT starter for years if at all.

Starters will likely carry versions of characters that have Legendary versions to make them worth collecting. For example, I'm betting we'll see a ROTJ Luke and Vader starter for all the people that missed out on the Legendary versions of both characters in Awakenings. With that said, the starter versions will probably be less powerful and more designed to help people get big name characters into their collections.

I think next year's starters will be too soon to use Last Jedi characters, so I'm betting OT. Disney likes to keep movie secrets on lock till the last minute, so I'm seriously doubting any kinda Rey v2.0 and Kylo v2.0 (or other new baddie) kinda stuff.

56 minutes ago, CBMarkham said:

Yes, new starters will exist. I don't know if I'm making this up, or if this FFG's stance and I just forgot the source, but I think they're going to come out at about 1 starter per year? No idea if I'm making that up or not, but if I am, that'd be my guess.

Starter packs will probably coincide with Star Wars movies in an attempt to ride the wave of hype for that movie release. They won't come out as often as expansions for the game, but they'll continue to be introduced. If you wanted to get into Destiny but were waiting for another type of starter, you might be waiting until very late 2017 or early 2018.

Also, as a side note, it's weird to hear someone express hatred of a Star Wars movie that's not part of a prequel. I was briefly confounded.

I hated Rogue One, but that's neither here nor there.

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Spirit of Rebellion won't have any starters; there's no product listing for them, and it's only 160 cards. Awakenings was exactly 160 cards, if you didn't count the starter only cards (grey rarity). I'm pretty sure FFG said there'll be more starters. My guess is at least one set a year will be the beginner or introductory set, which will correspondingly have the starters. That's assuming they ever pull their heads out of their butts and fix the supply issues; more than one set a year seems like a dream at this point.

I guess I'm insane. My order for the movies is:

IV

V

RO

III

VI

I

VII

II

Mine goes:

Empire

Star Wars

return jedi

FA

Rogue

Phantom

revenge sith

attack clones

IMO the prequels are superior to the original series, there was a lot more interesting fights ( defiantly better then vader vs old ben poke fight) and story line then in the original movies. What really so revolutionary about the original series it's the standard good guy fights bad guy, bad guy wins, good guy trains, good guy beats bad guy. Nostalgia is a very powerful thing and it has clouded some peoples minds to where they hold it in unreachable pedestal that no other similar thing can measure up to.

I am not saying there bad movies, heck I like them but I think the prequels get unfairly judged as bad when there simply not. Also as a side note rouge one was an amazing put together movie and fixes one of the biggest plot holes in star wars cannon.

The prequels aren't half as bad as people say they are but they aren't half as good as they should have been. TBH the only huge flaw of the prequals, putting Jar Jar aside, which he was in later films, was the acting by the two young actors. There was some pretty good performances by the older actors and the movies themselves were just very pretty. The musical score for the prequels is really John Williams best work, by far, for the star wars movies. This is their greatest failing, because you have all this really neat and beautiful stuff going on and then you get the "I hate sand" really bad acting. On top of this you have EP1 which was clearly a kids movie mixed in with movies intended for a, shall we say, only slightly older audience. The dichotomy is a mind twister which causes much of the hate.

The original trilogy is simply put, consistent, so it works better. If the prequels didn't have the few problems it had, it would have blown the original trilogy away, save for nostalgia. Instead they have to be compartmentalized to enjoy the greatness within them.

While, I don't agree with you in every regard, overall I think you're right. Jedi is only as high on the list as it is for nostalgia purposes, and the nostalgia level in the first movies is VERY high!

On 2/17/2017 at 9:30 AM, Felswrath said:

I guess I'm insane. My order for the movies is:

IV

V

RO

III

VI

I

VII

II

empire isn't the first on your list? are you mad?

in all fairness, you're actually the first person i've heard of that didn't rank empire as the best one

i'll go with

1. Empire
2. ROTJ
3. ROTS
4. ANH
5. AOTC
6. TPM
7. Rogue one (only because of the last 10 minutes of vader action or it would rank last place)
8. TFA

Prequels=CGI/cartoons

the cgi shows are not that bad, they add interesting characters to the universe, chad bane anyone.

They are not stupid. There will be more products to onboard people. Maybe not with every expansion set but I think they know what needs to happen. I'm hoping for something mass market but maybe this game costs too much to do that

Empire

Rogue 1

Jedi

Hope

Awakens

Clones

Sith

... as far as I'm aware no other star wars films exist.

On 2/17/2017 at 0:08 PM, WonderWAAAGH said:

I hated Rogue One, but that's neither here nor there.

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Spirit of Rebellion won't have any starters; there's no product listing for them, and it's only 160 cards. Awakenings was exactly 160 cards, if you didn't count the starter only cards (grey rarity). I'm pretty sure FFG said there'll be more starters. My guess is at least one set a year will be the beginner or introductory set, which will correspondingly have the starters. That's assuming they ever pull their heads out of their butts and fix the supply issues; more than one set a year seems like a dream at this point.

You know lack of supply of a set is not the same as delays of a different set right? I get the "lol FFG delays" sentiment, but there haven't been any delays and or information implying any in the future.

You're saying that we should be optimistic because they managed to get a single set out on time?

On 2/17/2017 at 10:56 AM, Felswrath said:

I have not played many TCGs, but the one I played most, Lord of the Rings TCG, had TONS of starter sets. There were about 30 give or take! My question is do you think it's likely we will see more starters? I am interested in the game, but almost hate Force Awakens with a passion. Is there any chance we'll get a Luke and Vader starter set, or an Anakin and Dooku one? I would definitely be more interested in the game then!

Hate FA with a passion? You always go against the grain? That's just comical if you hate that but like any of the original 6 being that they are all cut from the same cloth. RO is quite different I'll admit.

The starters, while they have a couple of good exclusive cards in them, are completely optional. There are a lot of third party tokens, or MM sells the token packs out of the starters. Rules can be downloaded. Sadly the next starter set will probably be based on The Last Jedi.

I'm looking forward to not having new starters. Pulling starter rare cards from boosters was no good. Some of them were ok, but having 2 Rey's Staff in my set and an additional 10 to give away if anyone would even want them is no fun. I also have 10 BB-8's, and 10 Jedi Robes that are extra. That's an entire box of wasted rare cards/dice (if you count 6 legendaries per box). It's a but scary how consistent they were that I ended up with the exact same number of each of them. One box I opened had 14 of the 30 rare packs as starter set cards/dice. At the opposite end is the fact that a good card like Force Throw now sells for the price of the entire starter set.

5 minutes ago, FezDaBrute said:

I'm looking forward to not having new starters. Pulling starter rare cards from boosters was no good. Some of them were ok, but having 2 Rey's Staff in my set and an additional 10 to give away if anyone would even want them is no fun. I also have 10 BB-8's, and 10 Jedi Robes that are extra. That's an entire box of wasted rare cards/dice (if you count 6 legendaries per box). It's a but scary how consistent they were that I ended up with the exact same number of each of them. One box I opened had 14 of the 30 rare packs as starter set cards/dice. At the opposite end is the fact that a good card like Force Throw now sells for the price of the entire starter set.

Yes, I hope that somewhere I can either trade or find Force throw/mind probe at a decent price. Shame those amazing card have to be only in starters... Not buying two entire other starters for those cards as tempting as it is.

26 minutes ago, FezDaBrute said:

I'm looking forward to not having new starters. Pulling starter rare cards from boosters was no good. Some of them were ok, but having 2 Rey's Staff in my set and an additional 10 to give away if anyone would even want them is no fun. I also have 10 BB-8's, and 10 Jedi Robes that are extra. That's an entire box of wasted rare cards/dice (if you count 6 legendaries per box). It's a but scary how consistent they were that I ended up with the exact same number of each of them. One box I opened had 14 of the 30 rare packs as starter set cards/dice. At the opposite end is the fact that a good card like Force Throw now sells for the price of the entire starter set.

Agreed.

Yeah I have to say I'm a bit cynical about the distribution of starter exclusive rares and starter & booster rares:

Exclusives:

Force Throw - Staple and virtual auto include in 90% of blue decks

Mind Probe - Staple card, hard to justify not at least running 1 in any blue deck

Lightsaber - Staple in a lot of blue decks, and virtually all melee based decks

F11D Rifle - Staple in virtually all red villain ranged damage based decks

Starter & Booster Rares:

Imobilize - solid but not a staple in all blue villain decks

FO Stormtrooper - Solid, generic unit for villain red decks but not in all or most red decks

Reys Staff - Useful but only for the simple fact that there are so few melee weapons, will be replaced by better cards in the next set I predict.

BB8 - mediocre, with little or no showings for what most would consider tier 1 builds

Infantry grenades - mediocre to bad, filler in some lists and as with reys staff will be replaced by something better in the next set

Jedi Robes - mediocre, niche usage in the Quigon deck but most quickly realize its overcosted for what it does

FO Tie Fighter - useful to mediocre, die supports are very slow and unless combo orientated (hyperloop falcon) don’t cut it right now.

So there you have it all the starter exclusives are above average or amazing and most of the non-exclusives are rubbish with only stormtrooper (by virtue of it being a character) seeing consistent play.

Seems pretty deliberate to me, Heck I fell for the trap and bought 2 of each starter.

On 2/19/2017 at 11:44 AM, WonderWAAAGH said:

You're saying that we should be optimistic because they managed to get a single set out on time?

Hey, that's a 100% set release record they now have. Boom.