Exhausting talent cards

By orangefruitbat, in WFRP Rules Questions

On p. 20 of the rules, it says that some talents are passive and are always in effect, while other talents must be exhausted (at a cost of 4 tokens) to be used. Some of the talents cards are clearly meant to be exhausted, "Exhaust this card to gain...", where others seems to be applicable only in certain circumstances, suggesting that these are the passive talents which do not exhaust.

But the example on p.20 shows the "Silver Tongue" talent exhausted with 4 tokens on it, despite the fact that that talent would seem to be a passive talent.

So,

1) is the example on p. 20 incorrect?

or

2) do all talents exhaust themselves unless otherwise stated?

That's a good question. Common sense tells me that since some cards say "exhaust to do X," that would mean that cards that don't specify exhaustion are 'always on'; but the example referenced certainly brings that into question.

Aye, I'd suggest the Silver Tongue example in the book is incorrect.

The talent card design is flawed. It should have included a recharge number like all the other cards. Ideally, you could "ink" this on the outside of a card sleeve. What "symbol" or number would you use for always on?

jh

Emirikol said:

The talent card design is flawed. It should have included a recharge number like all the other cards. Ideally, you could "ink" this on the outside of a card sleeve. What "symbol" or number would you use for always on?

As far as I'm aware, Talent cards which are exhausted always have 4 recharge tokens placed on them, and this is the same for every (exhaustable) Talent card.

Logically, any talent card that is exhaustable should have a "4" in a circle, just like the action cards. Ones that don't could simply have a zero.

Still looking for an official ruling on whether the "Silver Tongue" and similar talent recards get exhausted or are considered passive.

Emirikol said:

The talent card design is flawed. It should have included a recharge number like all the other cards. Ideally, you could "ink" this on the outside of a card sleeve. What "symbol" or number would you use for always on?

jh

Many of the "inexhaustable" talent cards have other limitiations such as once per session or only use during Intelligence checks. Putting a recharge on top of that seems a bit harsh.

Only talents that clearly says "exhaust this card", is subject to the exhaust rules and re-charge tokens. The example in the rulebook is obviously wrong as other examples in the rulebook also have been wrong.

adding a circle or other symbol to suggest that this talent card is exhaustible is a good idea anyway. The silver tounge talent card is identical to Detuctive reasoning in game mechanics. But why are there no talent cards like those affecting the other 4 characteristics?

FFG should update their errata to fix the error in the example, to avoid confusion.