5 hours ago, Managarmr said:

an attempt to cobble up HIGHLY complicated SPACEship parts from different manufacturers which use different philosophies, technics, frames and fittings and software.

See, this is an assumption that I am not sure is accurate for the SW universe. The way tech is presented in the films you get the impression that elements are very robust and modular, that their vehicles are more like working on a custom hot rod in the '50s than a high tech, computer designed, precision engineered aerospace vehicle of the 21st century. Hell, a 10 year old kid assembled a winning NASCAR racer from spare parts in this universe.

I can certainly understand disliking uglies, I hated the concept when I was first exposed to it though a couple of the designs have grown on me, but you do have to look at it through the lens of how things work in the SW universe. Discounting them because "you couldn't do that in real life" is not a valid counter argument.

1 hour ago, Shinwakin said:

Personal I would love to see the Death-seed form the Rouge squadron books show up ( Tie cockpit, X-Wing wings, and engines) They were a custom built main stay ugly for the Twi'leks. good story line behind the ship and makes sense over all. Here's the link to the Wookiepedia http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Chir'daki for their background.

Just a small correction. The Deathseeds used the TIE's engines, but kept the X-wing's engine nacelles for shields, power, and life support. Also the wings were on a gyro.

9 minutes ago, Forgottenlore said:

See, this is an assumption that I am not sure is accurate for the SW universe. The way tech is presented in the films you get the impression that elements are very robust and modular, that their vehicles are more like working on a custom hot rod in the '50s than a high tech, computer designed, precision engineered aerospace vehicle of the 21st century. Hell, a 10 year old kid assembled a winning NASCAR racer from spare parts in this universe.

I can certainly understand disliking uglies, I hated the concept when I was first exposed to it though a couple of the designs have grown on me, but you do have to look at it through the lens of how things work in the SW universe. Discounting them because "you couldn't do that in real life" is not a valid counter argument.

Yeah, that's the way I see it.

Joe, please relax.

Please.

9 minutes ago, Captain Lackwit said:

Joe, please relax.

Please.

Tide, please don't come in.

Please.

32 minutes ago, Captain Lackwit said:

Joe, please relax.

Please.

what are you even talking about...

With the abundance of Clone wars era ships that we would see at least more than a few of those ships (besides the lovely Y-wing) mashed up to make some ugly Uglies. Let's see the V-19 wings on an ARC or mashed up droid fighters.

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TIE fighters with Y-Wing engines

The DIE-wing is about the one Ugly I can truly accept. It combines the Y-wing's maneuverability with the TIE fighter's durability which is exactly what an Ugly should be.

On 2/16/2017 at 3:17 PM, Joe Boss Red Seven said:

Da-hels-wrong wit-cha... dam Ugly haters up in my wonderful topic?!

Ain't-cha ever seen Ice Pirates, Serenity, and fraggen Guardians Of The Galaxy?!

What did I just read?

On 2/16/2017 at 3:17 PM, Joe Boss Red Seven said:

RAMSHACKLE ON PROUD MY SCUMMY SPACE PIRATE BROTHERS... RAM-SHACK-KA-LACKA ON!!!

Guys, I think Joe maybe having a stroke.

2 hours ago, Mattman7306 said:

What did I just read?

Guys, I think Joe maybe having a stroke.

Is you make'in fun of my WONDERFUL SINGING VOICE?

LOOKS LIKE I'LL HAVE'TA SMACK YOU UNCONSCIOUS-LIKE WITH A GOOD 300 POUND LEFT HOOK!

WHAMS!!!

14 hours ago, Forgottenlore said:

. Discounting them because "you couldn't do that in real life" is not a valid counter argument.

I'll give "Because Star Wars" to Jedi. And lightsabers. And banking spaceships. And the idea that 90% of aliens in the galaxy could be played by a human in a latex suit

Maybe we can have foundational notions of spacecraft construction requiring tolerances against heat and the vacuum of space.

33 minutes ago, VaeVictis said:

Maybe we can have foundational notions of spacecraft construction requiring tolerances against heat and the vacuum of space.

Yeah, I'm not sure we can count on even that. There is ample circumstantial evidence that "space" in SW is not a vacuum. If someone wanted to put forth the argument that the SW galaxy is filled with "Ether" or "phlogiston" or whatever it wouldn't be the most ludicrous claim.

3 hours ago, Forgottenlore said:

"phlogiston"

21 hours ago, Forgottenlore said:

Tide, please don't come in.

Please.

I KNOW YOU LIKE ME...

6 hours ago, Forgottenlore said:

Yeah, I'm not sure we can count on even that. There is ample circumstantial evidence that "space" in SW is not a vacuum. If someone wanted to put forth the argument that the SW galaxy is filled with "Ether" or "phlogiston" or whatever it wouldn't be the most ludicrous claim.

It's full of gaseous naqueda, so all the asplosions get all pretty and stuff. The TIE 'solar panels' just suck it up and send it straight into the reactor.

12 hours ago, Mattman7306 said:

What did I just read?

Guys, I think Joe maybe having a stroke.

I don't think that's the first time someone has said that.

On 2/17/2017 at 8:31 AM, Viktus106 said:

Da Orkz iz com'in!

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!! *cough* *cough* Sorry, chaps, seemed to have caught a sudden case of the ugly. . .

Looks like Disney are hoping to muscle in on GW territory, maybe that is why FFG dropped the GW contract. . because dey iz GOING TO WARR!!!

Opps, sorry.

Whats next, a bunch of enhanced troopers, wearing different colored Armour, blindly following an Emperor they pledged allegiance too but never see?

Yeah, as soon as I started looking at these the following thought entered my mind.

Kaptin Swagteef: Awwright you buncha grotlovin' lubbas where's me fightas?

Mek: Ahoy Kap'n! We gotz tha gubbins built jus like you toldz us. But wez got some problems.

Kaptin Swagteef: I's needs them fightas for tha thumpin of tha Humie fleet wez been fightin for tha last thirteh days.

Mek: Well Kap'n, youz ordard us ta take da wingz off dis one and the grotpit off dis one an' slap em togetha, but the thing ain't got no engines. It ain't gonna go!

Kaptin Swagteef: Didja paint it red?

Mek: Aye Kap'n.

Kaptin Swagteef: DEN IT'LL FLY JUS' FINE YA GIT. Now shove a grot in 'ere an' put sommore DAKKA into tha fight!

7 hours ago, Forgottenlore said:

Yeah, I'm not sure we can count on even that. There is ample circumstantial evidence that "space" in SW is not a vacuum. If someone wanted to put forth the argument that the SW galaxy is filled with "Ether" or "phlogiston" or whatever it wouldn't be the most ludicrous claim.

Probably explains how Han and Leia could be walking around the interior of a worm exposed to vacuum its entire existence with only masks over their mouths and noses without getting a bad case of red eyes and rapid decompression of their bladders and bowels.

On 2017-02-18 at 5:12 AM, Forgottenlore said:

See, this is an assumption that I am not sure is accurate for the SW universe. The way tech is presented in the films you get the impression that elements are very robust and modular, that their vehicles are more like working on a custom hot rod in the '50s than a high tech, computer designed, precision engineered aerospace vehicle of the 21st century. Hell, a 10 year old kid assembled a winning NASCAR racer from spare parts in this universe.

I can certainly understand disliking uglies, I hated the concept when I was first exposed to it though a couple of the designs have grown on me, but you do have to look at it through the lens of how things work in the SW universe. Discounting them because "you couldn't do that in real life" is not a valid counter argument.

Suspension of disbelief. Certain things I can accept, but they have to stay somewhat reasonable. As said I can accept 1 max 2 uglies, really bad performing in a dogfight, e.g. somewhere on a lonely asteroid decrepit pirate base, or at a skirmish as a desperate-last-attempt-going-to suicide-run fielded by someone cut off from any resources what-so-ever.

But a whole FLEET of uglies coobled together makes no sense. You are just better off fitting the parts together which belong together, and getting reasonable performance within the parameters of using used stuff which nonetheless might break at a critical moment. Patch together used complete different stuff, weld/fuse/computerhack it together to somewhat fit, and it certainly costs more and it WILL break when exposed to the stress of a dogfight.

And the cover is just like we take a lot of parts recognisable stuff, mix it thoroughly and uninspired, and then throw the whole mess out. Wtf, fitting a ground attack vehicles cockpit, from not even a skimmer, but a walker(!), to a spaceship. That would need so much rewiring and modding its just not worth it. It's like trying to fit a submarine bridge to your used car and expected it to win stock races.

Considering how many of the models were kitbashes of ships and planes, does this mean that an Ugly is a kitbash of a kitbash?

Uh... I highly doubt the uglies will make it to the game. I'd probably stop playing. ****, with that philosophy, I should have stopped playing a long time ago

Necro.