Hype Dead

By Mixxathon, in Star Wars: Destiny

No cards for sale equals gamedeath.

So, around here the game quickly got 10 players. We even held a tournament with booster prizes. Then new cards never arrived.

Down to two players now and those belive, like the others, that even if Destiny is a great game - there is not much chance for it to recover its momentum. So, Ashes will be tried instead and collections will be sold or gather dust. There are too many great games out there to make a big fuzz about this one failing.

Good luck and have fun. It WAS very fun.

So long, and thanks for all the fish.

So dumb, go try and preorder the next set... oh wait all the pepole who "arent" playing have pre ordered it all... geniuses. I too am upset about the lack of product available, and it may well kill the interest of a few, but this game isn't going anywhere. If people could have one true complaint, it's that ffg has been so quiet on the subject. Outside of that, there is 0 chance you leaving will hit them where it hurts... everyone else is still buying.

Good riddance

Understandable really, love how defensive people get that it can't fail. It most certainly can and sales does not = interest. You'd have to be blind not to see opportunity to resell this stuff, that is most likely why the preorders are gone. I am not selling my stuff but did buy ashes and hope Destiny does succeed. I'll be happy to turn a profit a year from now but what happens happens. Spent way too much on Destiny and will not make the same mistake in set 2. I still have yet to see event 1 within 200 miles. Maybe someday I'll actually play this game.

Give it a year before you declare success or failure.

Location plays a big part of the ability to join and play these games. It was the same for Armada when it first came out, but fortunately I'm in Los Angeles and have more than enough tournaments and game nights at my LGS to keep this game going through the drought.

We have 12 players and thus far one has given up. I think that's pretty good.

1 hour ago, LordFajubi said:

Understandable really, love how defensive people get that it can't fail. It most certainly can and sales does not = interest. You'd have to be blind not to see opportunity to resell this stuff, that is most likely why the preorders are gone. I am not selling my stuff but did buy ashes and hope Destiny does succeed. I'll be happy to turn a profit a year from now but what happens happens. Spent way too much on Destiny and will not make the same mistake in set 2. I still have yet to see event 1 within 200 miles. Maybe someday I'll actually play this game.

Where are you?

We haven't had product in our area since the day wave four hit the shelves and disappeared immediately. Haven't had any tournaments in town since the prerelease, although I did travel 178 miles 2 weeks ago to attend my first (I missed the prerelease).

The game is going strong here with Wednesday and Saturday meet ups. The players are organizing a tournament on February 25th for bragging rights. No prizes, no entry fee, done for the joy of competing in a great game.

If you want a game to succeed during shortages like the one we currently have, make the effort to build a community. Someone has to do it right? Be the one to make a difference.

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31 minutes ago, WonderWAAAGH said:

Where are you?

The midwest just outside Columbus Ohio seen a place in MI that plays but I haven't seen anything closer than that.

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3 hours ago, Mixxathon said:

No cards for sale equals gamedeath.

Then new cards never arrived.

there is not much chance for it

Please don't quit, Mixxathon! I am not going to play Destiny if you don't. If you quit now...that's one less post of negative, whiny comments that I won't get to read. Who else can I learn from to be impatient and yell that the sky is falling?

1 hour ago, Reactor Terminal said:

Please don't quit, Mixxathon! I am not going to play Destiny if you don't. If you quit now...that's one less post of negative, whiny comments that I won't get to read. Who else can I learn from to be impatient and yell that the sky is falling?

Any Armarda player will tell you.

Yes, this was kind of predictable. Naturally it is me that is the problem and what I feel about the situation is completely just a product of me being whiny and negative. It has absolutely nothing to do with any 'real' issues, does it? We should, of course, have been pre-ordering to secure any possibilities to acquire some of this game, since after all it is a very exclusive and limited edition we are talking about here. Not a game that aspires to grab some of that MtG money, is it? And the silence from FFG shows that nothing, absolutely nothing, is wrong and the shortage was planned all along. It's not like they actually thought this game was going to be popular. No market research was made, no endless board meetings, no fine tuning to cater for the least common denominator - it was just a thing they slapped together after having a few beers.

When you wish me good luck and good riddance, you say that to a rather large collective of players and not just me, and that alone should be worrying. We have a very healthy community of Armada, X-Wing, 40K, Magic, heck - even V:TES have a bigger community here than Destiny - and that alone should speak oodles about the issues this game has. Had it been distributed normally (not FFG normal), we would have a contender for most popular game around here as Destiny is a seriously well designed game with a second hand value incorporated into it to boot. As it is now - it is not possible to actually play the game if the game is not sold to new players. And that has to be something of a record in mismanagement for a title bearing the Star Wars brand.

5 hours ago, Reactor Terminal said:

Please don't quit, Mixxathon! I am not going to play Destiny if you don't. If you quit now...that's one less post of negative, whiny comments that I won't get to read. Who else can I learn from to be impatient and yell that the sky is falling?

Yes - that was the reaction I craved and expected. Knowing now that you depend on me that much, I feel like we have bonded and should be BFF. No seriously, you find no issues with the distribution? All is well in the kingdom? It is a minor concern that the newest CCG, a game that has a business model of making the customers buy more packs than they need. is not actually available, and when it is, it is in very limited amounts? You know what I do if I want to start playing Magic the Gathering? I guess you do, but I will tell you anyway since you seem to need me telling you stuff that should be apparent.

I throw a rock blindly over my right shoulder. It is bound to hit a reseller of MtG. I go to the poor guy who was hit by the rock, give him money to ease his suffering, and get the cards. In any amount. That is how you sell a CCG, you see. Make it available to sell large quantities and to secure new players. Also good for retention.

Now, how do I as a new player start playing Destiny? Well, I'm screwed. I guess I could print out proxies and just use D6 dice seeing as the game is just a collection of limited tables really. So, now you know. The sky isn't falling.

There are ways to express these otherwise legitimate sentiments without coming off so... petty. If you really need to rant maybe you should try Facebook.

These kinds of posts about the naysaying of a game that has only been out for three months really makes wonder about the age and relative experience of people playing the game. I know that might sound alittle snarky, but I'm being serious.

I've been a SW collector since the '90s, when SW products started coming back into circulation. In that time, I've had my hand in collecting virtually everything - SSC, Hot Toys, Gentle Giant, Master Replica, eFX, Hasbro, WOTC, Topps, blah, blah, etc. If I bailed every time one of those companies had a slow start or supply got limited, or I didn't jump on something soon enough, I would barely have bothered collecting. But I stayed in with those companies because the product was really good and I was patient.

Collectibles are collectible and this is a collectible game. I fully expect not to get everything unless I decide to be a completist and spend more than I want to. The product here is also really good. It's so good that I want to be patient and give it more than just a knee-jerk relation.

1 hour ago, WonderWAAAGH said:

There are ways to express these otherwise legitimate sentiments without coming off so... petty. If you really need to rant maybe you should try Facebook.

There was absolutely nothing petty about any of his arguments. He wants to play, there's no product, players in his area are dropping out, and he feels upset by the lack of boosters and the lack of information. How is any of that petty? Seems quite rational to me, regardless of whether you disagree with his conclusions.

31 minutes ago, Network57 said:

There was absolutely nothing petty about any of his arguments. He wants to play, there's no product, players in his area are dropping out, and he feels upset by the lack of boosters and the lack of information. How is any of that petty? Seems quite rational to me, regardless of whether you disagree with his conclusions.

The title along with his complaints seemed petty. If the title was "hope destiny gets more stock" it wouldn't seem petty to me. Just my thought.

1 hour ago, Network57 said:

There was absolutely nothing petty about any of his arguments. He wants to play, there's no product, players in his area are dropping out, and he feels upset by the lack of boosters and the lack of information. How is any of that petty? Seems quite rational to me, regardless of whether you disagree with his conclusions.

Rage quitting is always petty, especially if you feel the need to tell the world about it. What OP really needs is a box of tissues and a journal.

I think rage quitting requires rage. He just quit. Seemed to do it quite calmly and reasonably, too.

His posts ooze drama and hyperbole. How is it at all reasonable to proclaim 'gamedeath' right now? You can't lead with that and then expect to be taken seriously.

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Or you could, you know, fly casual. No need to antagonise where it's not required. Though looking at your other posts, that's your MO, so you have fun with that.

I really like how Fly Casual has become a carte blanche expression for "your perspective is wrong." But you're right, I could just let him shake his fist at the sky without any unnecessary input from myself, because it's clearly okay for just one of us to express ourselves earnestly.

Speaking of needless antagonism, can anybody remind me what the point of this thread is? I believe someone was saying goodbye.

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I think a growing concern, and I see people quoting on both sides what a good game this is, is how good is it really? I have watched Wonder and Mep go back and forth like a couple of junkyard dogs. I've seen groups of other players rally to both and the game creator vaguely siding with one opinion and causing further discussion/arguments on his reasoning for an answer. People want to feel confidence in not only the game but the company making the game. FFG is dropping the ball on both fronts and while x wing and armada players are used to the tardiness of FFG, new players in the fold are seeing failure and rightly so.

Proclaiming anything of success or failure right now might be premature but just because you have a stubborn few braced to ride the storm doesn't mean everything is ok. I have too much wrapped up in this game at this point to WANT it to fail, over $500 easily, but that was my fault not FFG's. Star Wars is a loved franchise and forcibly excluding people is a slap in the face to those who wanted to play and turns this into a club not a buy in to collection. I understand the rage of a few and you can dislike them ranting about it but the fact is FFG IS losing customers at this point and when people start questioning if it is worth it that should be a warning sign not a chicken little joke.

We happen to be in a lucky minority that got product because we believed early in a product the company itself wasn't sure would make it. Bravo, we got lucky, but don't act like you made some educated guess, this game could have and may still drop like a sack of hammers if people get fed up with it. The next set will be very telling and if the rules continue to have holes, if the supply is stupidly low and snatched by second handers looking for profit, this game WILL be in serious trouble. I intend to buy a saga set when I can afford it if I miss the opportunity or supply doesn't permit I'm not sucking it up and fighting for scraps again it's a fraking game, not important enough in any way, and FFG will have lost yet another customer.

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