I'm trying to decide whether to add basing to the trays in addition to the miniatures, this will make the trays look cool however I feel that it will end up making storage a nightmare as the bases will take up a lot of extra space in my gem tray storage boxes...
To base trays or not to base trays...
I'm wondering as well. My worry is how the bases fit together. In the team covenant video they're pretty awkward and I think adding a layer of paint would make it worse. And if you don't paint, but only bas on top, I'm worried that the edges will flake off. So I may just brush paint them.
14 minutes ago, Elliphino said:I'm wondering as well. My worry is how the bases fit together. In the team covenant video they're pretty awkward and I think adding a layer of paint would make it worse. And if you don't paint, but only bas on top, I'm worried that the edges will flake off. So I may just brush paint them.
I'm hoping the production trays aren't as awkward as the prototypes at GenCon.
Well normal round and all other bases also have edges and it normally doesn't flake of. For my bases i glue the stuff with wood glue (is that a word/thing in english?) onto the base, paint it and put varnish on the miniature and the base and that seems to be pretty solid. If is use texture paint for the base i usually wash it and drybrush it and the i apply the varnish.
The problem here is of course the interlocking trays, so you will probably move those bases more and they will suffer more stress, but i think i base the trays nonetheless for me it looks better that way.
Edited by Iceeagle85My concern isn't as much appearance as storage space I magnetized all my models to store them more efficiently and will be doing that with runewars I just don't know if I want to store them on the trays or off until I know how big the tray are I won't be able to decide but if I store them on the tray the tray will getting basing if I store them off...i'm not sure
I see, perhaps you should just pant the trays then.
I'm planning to fully base mine, but here is how I'm going to store them: base boxes with a 'this side up'. If you've used hangers for Armada or xwing, I'm planning to make something like that for my bases. My units will get foamed standing upright, then stack the flat hanger boxes with the bases in a fit tupperware kinda of box. http://sirwillibald.com
1 hour ago, Iceeagle85 said:Well normal round and all other bases also have edges and it normally doesn't flake of. For my bases i glue the stuff with wood glue (is that a word/thing in english?) onto the base, paint it and put varnish on the miniature and the base and that seems to be pretty solid. If is use texture paint for the base i usually wash it and drybrush it and the i apply the varnish.
The problem here is of course the interlocking trays, so you will probably move those bases more and they will suffer more stress, but i think i base the trays nonetheless for me it looks better that way.
With the flaking, I'm mostly worried about this could happen on the edges as they wear against interlocking plates.
I didn't get flaking on my square bases before, but they were beveled... Maybe angled is the right word? I did have issues with the texture on my movement trays though, as those got a lot more wear against other units and were also handled mainly by the edges. Then again, I don't think I had varnish on them, only a top coat of PVA. Spray varnish though takes me back to issue with the interlocking trays getting too tight...
hmm, like everything else with this game so far, we'll have to wait and see if theory plays out in practice. ?
I don't think I'll be doing anything across the top of the movement tray. I just don't see it lasting very well.
So, what I did with my 9th Age armies is magnetize them and then put them on metal trays, then it doesn't matter if they're based or painted, so long as you don't throw the tray, your miniatures are always in perfect condition
The trays also have arcs maked on them, which makes basing more difficult.
Looking at the Gencon videos, they are really awkward to handle, so I will probably not base mine, because any sand/flock will get quickly damaged, especially at the edges. I will paint them, probably, at least spray in a color similar to the soldier bases.
Edited by costi@Elliphino I was thinking to use a varnish to seal them, with some overcoat of touch-up or dry brush to prevent it from messing up the colors.
@costi I planned to use other devices to mark the trays. I think they just have arrows for the front of each tray, so I was planning to do decayed runestones or something to mark the front with just a dash of color to make it obvious across the table, while still making each tray a little unique.
@Obscene I agree the interlocking trays is an issue, and in the videos they do seem to have issues. I planned to leave the edges of the trays mostly alone except for some repainting for base colors, and to focus all of my flocking and design away from the interlocking pieces. The other option, of course, will be to build up a layer that overlaps the interlocking pieces, and adds an elevation to the bottom of each unit so that it matches the new level of the base. I don't see this as practical because you need to be able to remove from any side, and it would probably need to tessalate.
I think that I'll paint the trays. well maybe not texture them or anything outside painting. I'll fully personalize the minis base but for the tray. I just hope, like all of you, that hey have learned something from Gencon and modified accordingly the productions of the trays. Finger crossed.
I wouldn't assume the quality of the materials from gencon is completely accurate. Everything was 3d printed compared to being formed in a mold. Molds tends to make things a bit more precise so you could get a good lock on the trays with out being impossible to remove from the roughnes of the cut causing a lot of friction. Sometimes, I think them revealing preproduction 3d printed models was a mistake, as a lot of people took it to being what you get in the box.
that's maybe what our french blogger has received too, no ? I mean, the boxes are still crossing the Pacific so... or did they produce a limited amount of boxes to send out to some testers ?
From what I've heard in my flgs is that they will be recieving a demo box before the release of the game, so there is most likely a small pre-wave shipment to reviewers and store owners.
On 12.2.2017 at 4:31 PM, drkpnthr said:I'm planning to fully base mine, but here is how I'm going to store them: base boxes with a 'this side up'. If you've used hangers for Armada or xwing, I'm planning to make something like that for my bases. My units will get foamed standing upright, then stack the flat hanger boxes with the bases in a fit tupperware kinda of box. http://sirwillibald.com
FYI, SirWilli is already thinking about Runewars...
And even more concerning, he's even talking of himself in third person, what a freak.
On topic: I was planning to base the trays, just because it looks way cooler. But now your concerns have me concerned, too...
I'm planning on getting a starter army for each faction, then building a tournament army for Uthuk Y'llan. I'm planning on basing each faction with a specific theme.
Daqan: grass and stone
Waiqar: swamp
Uthuk: sandy/rocky desert
Latari: leaves and grass
I've never based before, so this will be an adventure. If I do base my trays, I will probably want them to match the theme of the rest of the faction, but if I just skip basing the trays, it will save a lot of time and means that trays are interchangeable between all factions. That may not be a big deal. I'm just thinking about X-Wing, for example. I don't keep each base with its original miniature. Instead, I just pull out a few bases and use those on whatever I'm currently flying in my squad. If I based things, it adds one more step to get the army ready because I have to match trays to bases instead of just grabbing a tray and sticking my units in it.
I'm thinking that I am leaning more towards basing the minis and having generic trays and like @Budgernaut said just following X-wing's example of Keeping enough trays with my army and all the extra trays will just be in a bag somewhere...
7 hours ago, Elrad said:that's maybe what our french blogger has received too, no ? I mean, the boxes are still crossing the Pacific so... or did they produce a limited amount of boxes to send out to some testers ?
Advanced copies are typically a distribution, rather than a production thing. So someone mailed advanced copies out to certain people, like the French blogger, which is expensive, but moves the product quickly. Meanwhile, the rest of the production units go into a shipping process that takes weeks, but is cheap. But usually advanced copies are the same thing as the retail copies.
Just think @Elrad , your future copy of Runewars is out enjoying an ocean going adventure as speak!
5 minutes ago, Elliphino said:Advanced copies are typically a distribution, rather than a production thing. So someone mailed advanced copies out to certain people, like the French blogger, which is expensive, but moves the product quickly. Meanwhile, the rest of the production units go into a shipping process that takes weeks, but is cheap. But usually advanced copies are the same thing as the retail copies.
Just think @Elrad , your future copy of Runewars is out enjoying an ocean going adventure as speak!
Oh a leisure trip on the calm waters of the Pacific... I dream of it sometimes. I still have to preorder the game still, waiting for that french store to open them but at this rate, I'll get my game in July when Gencon will be nearly ready for end august. I was considering going to Indianapolis this year but more than 1200$ the ticket from Belgium to there.... well...maybe another year.
2 minutes ago, Elrad said:Oh a leisure trip on the calm waters of the Pacific... I dream of it sometimes. I still have to preorder the game still, waiting for that french store to open them but at this rate, I'll get my game in July when Gencon will be nearly ready for end august. I was considering going to Indianapolis this year but more than 1200$ the ticket from Belgium to there.... well...maybe another year.
Yeah, $1200 and you still end up in Indianapolis. For that kind of money you'd rather hope for Tahiti or the Maldives.
People worrying a lot about paint/glue flaking off the tops of their bases?
Just score the plastic surface with a blade, give the glue something to hold on to.
Besides, literally the WORST thing that can happen (flocking/sand/paint flaking) could be corrected with five minutes of work.
Don't let fear of inevitable wear and tear stop you from basing your minis, folks.
11 minutes ago, Tvayumat said:People worrying a lot about paint/glue flaking off the tops of their bases?
Just score the plastic surface with a blade, give the glue something to hold on to.
Besides, literally the WORST thing that can happen (flocking/sand/paint flaking) could be corrected with five minutes of work.
Don't let fear of inevitable wear and tear stop you from basing your minis, folks.
Basing mini's yes basing the movement trays is what we are on the fence about
3 minutes ago, jek said:Basing mini's yes basing the movement trays is what we are on the fence about
I understand that, but I'd like to point out that there's really no functional difference between the two as far as labor goes.
If you're that concerned with losing some glued dirt and drybrushing, just stick some foam between stored trays.