1 minute ago, drkpnthr said:

So in that same article it says this:

What does it mean 'any number of dice' for each full rank of trays? If I roll two red dice for my Reanimate 12-tray formation, I know I would multiply the results I get by 3 for the number of trays facing. Would this mean I could pick up all the dice and roll them over again, and over again, and again three extra times? That seems suggested by the second line that says for partial trays you get to reroll a single die.

The way I read it, you basically get 1 roll for each die for how many ranks you have. At rank 1, you just get to roll the dice once for the original attack. For rank 2, you may now reroll each of those dice one time. For rank 3, you can reroll each die up to two times. This is really interesting since most FFG games state that you cannot reroll a rerolled die. It seems like a very powerful mechanic.

@Budgernaut I think you meant Rank 2, not Rank 1, etc, since the first rank does not grant a reroll?

Yeah, the whole reroll rerolls thing is huge. I thought they were saying reroll a -die- for each rank, not -all the dice- for each rank. That really changes the reliability of damage with larger units. Imagine 12-tray Reanimates with Ardus rerolling 2R+1W all day long... plus blight surge from carrion lancer nearby...

Just now, drkpnthr said:

@Budgernaut I think you meant Rank 2, not Rank 1, etc, since the first rank does not grant a reroll?

Yeah, the whole reroll rerolls thing is huge. I thought they were saying reroll a -die- for each rank, not -all the dice- for each rank. That really changes the reliability of damage with larger units. Imagine 12-tray Reanimates with Ardus rerolling 2R+1W all day long... plus blight surge from carrion lancer nearby...

That's exactly what I'm saying. Basically, you can think of each rank as giving you one roll. The first rank's roll is the original attack roll. The second rank's roll is the first reroll. The third rank's roll is the second reroll.

13 hours ago, Corto said:

You guys have it all wrong: spearmen has waaayyy more armour with 1.4 points while archers have only 0.6

OK both round to 1 but really the spearmen are much more armoured

lmao

edit: too sleep sorry.

16 hours ago, Taki said:

lmao

Imao ? for me Imao, when I look it up on google I've got : "Monoamine oxidase inhibitor" which in French is "inhibiteurs de monoamine oxydase"

8 hours ago, Hijodecain said:

edit: too sleep sorry.

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Is everything all right guys ? I find myself wondering if I'm still on earth when reading both your posts...

I could not find the button to delete the post. So I write something, something true btw. ;-)

On 2/12/2017 at 7:27 PM, Kubernes said:

Yes, typically infantry had varying degrees of limited protection in history. However, I believe this game is using references like Peter Jackson's LOTR than any historical text.

Speaking of, you think FFG will make a "Runewars" LOTR combat game. I am definitely interested in this game but the lore and flavor, not so much. I guessing they own the intellectually property so no worries about losing the license or paying fees so it makes sense.

IMAO = In my arrogant opinion in opposite to IMHO = in my humble opinion, as far as I know.

Just now, Iceeagle85 said:

IMAO = In my arrogant opinion in opposite to IMHO = in my humble opinion, as far as I know.

Ohhhh... I always thought it was LMAO = Laugh My A** Off. A bit crude, so I never use such phrases, but that's what I always thought it meant. It's supposed to be the next cool thing after LOL and ROTFLOL (Laugh Out Loud; Roll On The Floor Laughing Out Loud). But maybe I'm wrong?

1 hour ago, Amraam01 said:

Speaking of, you think FFG will make a "Runewars" LOTR combat game. I am definitely interested in this game but the lore and flavor, not so much. I guessing they own the intellectually property so no worries about losing the license or paying fees so it makes sense.

I think they wanted to, but GW holds the licence for LotR miniature games, so no can happen. FFG can only make card games as far as I can tell.

2 hours ago, Elrad said:

Imao ? for me Imao, when I look it up on google I've got : "Monoamine oxidase inhibitor" which in French is "inhibiteurs de monoamine oxydase"

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Is everything all right guys ? I find myself wondering if I'm still on earth when reading both your posts...

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1 hour ago, Budgernaut said:

Ohhhh... I always thought it was LMAO = Laugh My A** Off. A bit crude, so I never use such phrases, but that's what I always thought it meant. It's supposed to be the next cool thing after LOL and ROTFLOL (Laugh Out Loud; Roll On The Floor Laughing Out Loud). But maybe I'm wrong?

Yes, exactly this. LMAO is laugh my rear end off. It's a common American saying.

ROFLCOPTER!

5 hours ago, Amraam01 said:

Speaking of, you think FFG will make a "Runewars" LOTR combat game. I am definitely interested in this game but the lore and flavor, not so much. I guessing they own the intellectually property so no worries about losing the license or paying fees so it makes sense.

Even if GW didn't hold the miniature rights, I wouldn't expect FFG to make another typical fantasy miniatures game that could detract from Runewars. The closest we might get is Clan Wars, a miniatures version of L5R, but that might happen in 3 to 5. That universe is more far eastern/Japanese than typical fantasy.

33 minutes ago, Kubernes said:

Even if GW didn't hold the miniature rights, I wouldn't expect FFG to make another typical fantasy miniatures game that could detract from Runewars. The closest we might get is Clan Wars, a miniatures version of L5R, but that might happen in 3 to 5. That universe is more far eastern/Japanese than typical fantasy.

I could get behind a samurai mini game

You know, reading you I'm asking myself if I graduated in History 6 years ago.. because I find myself not talking about History nor showing my love for it (which doesn't pretty exist, I love many small thing within History but for the rest of it...) so I feel a bit like "the guy who graduated in history but so fed up with it that He got a long-life allergy and can't hear about History without fainting".... if only GW made something with LOTR, they are abandoning it for their questionable badly written AoS universe.... (I read a book or two without any excitement. It's not very well written in terms of language, don't mention the french translation...) IMSO.

14 minutes ago, Elrad said:

You know, reading you I'm asking myself if I graduated in History 6 years ago.. because I find myself not talking about History nor showing my love for it (which doesn't pretty exist, I love many small thing within History but for the rest of it...) so I feel a bit like "the guy who graduated in history but so fed up with it that He got a long-life allergy and can't hear about History without fainting".... if only GW made something with LOTR, they are abandoning it for their questionable badly written AoS universe.... (I read a book or two without any excitement. It's not very well written in terms of language, don't mention the french translation...) IMSO.

I was told GW had a great game in LoTR then ended it and launched the hobbit which was terrible and over priced, I could be wrong though or wait is the hobbit just LotR 40k?

Just now, jek said:

I was told GGW had a great game in LoTR then ended it and launched the hobbit which was terrible and over priced, I could be wrong though or wait is the hobbit just LotR 40k?

well I've got two Mumakils and a bunch of easterlings or Harrad soldiers. I've painted everybody and I sometimes look at them (not anymore, my cat made them fall so many times that regluing everything will have them all look like disabled veterans from the Battle of Pelenor's field) with pride. But I discontinued with the Hobbit because I'm not into playing a ban of dwarves fighting against goblins. I'm still more in LOTR universe than the Hobbit. I ow the excellent boardgame "War of the Ring" second edition which I love so much.

But the Hobbit is part of the Lord of the Rings Universe .

Yes the GW LotR game was pretty good and it was a skirmish game, then they made War for the Ring a rank and file game using the LotR miniature ranges and which wasn't bad either and before that they released the Battle of the Five armies under their Specialist Games branch which was a 10mm rank and file game about which i can say nothing. And one important thing the boxes were quite reasonably priced for a GW product.

Then even before the release of the Hobbit they halved the box contents for standard infantry from 24 to 12 i believe but didn't half the prize instead they increased it a little (same was done for Eldar Dire Anvengers and Imperial Guardsman later) which made the game more expensive and then we got the Hobbit with which the pricing was more in line with the rest of GW's prices and some say some of the miniatures look worse than the older miniatures sculpt wise. About the Hobbit rules themselves i can say nothing.

Imagine a far east skirmish style game with the command dial system. You could assume certain fighting style stances, move, parry, attack and have it consist or 5 or so models per a side. Allow dials to counter each other extremely hard when locked in melee combat so it really becomes a game of you do this, I do that.
That kind of gets my mouth drooling.

The hobbit...when I saw the starting box I said... ho ?

And yes the Hobbit is happening sometimes before Frodo leaves the Shire and begin his trip to Rivendell and Lorien and so on to Mount Doom.

The book is quite good, short and good. The movies are slower than the LoTR but that's understandable because the Middle Earth is not in state of Emergency yet. for fans of Tolkien that's a book to read of course. And the movies are nice but they lack something the three other one had from the Fellowship to the Return of the King.

a Far East skirmish game would then involve only a few minis like in X-Wings. I only played a few of Shogun II Total War but imagine that they had to generate every yari soldiers, samurai, nodachi soldiers and so on stances and having the Ia to deal with each one movements...the game would have crashed in the studio, burning both the computers and the humans working there...burnt from insanity of course.

That said, We could at least expect Latari to be a bit more agile than their enemies having, on their dial, an "evade" modifier combining with any movement .

4 hours ago, Elrad said:

The hobbit...when I saw the starting box I said... ho ?

And yes the Hobbit is happening sometimes before Frodo leaves the Shire and begin his trip to Rivendell and Lorien and so on to Mount Doom.

The book is quite good, short and good. The movies are slower than the LoTR but that's understandable because the Middle Earth is not in state of Emergency yet. for fans of Tolkien that's a book to read of course. And the movies are nice but they lack something the three other one had from the Fellowship to the Return of the King.

a Far East skirmish game would then involve only a few minis like in X-Wings. I only played a few of Shogun II Total War but imagine that they had to generate every yari soldiers, samurai, nodachi soldiers and so on stances and having the Ia to deal with each one movements...the game would have crashed in the studio, burning both the computers and the humans working there...burnt from insanity of course.

That said, We could at least expect Latari to be a bit more agile than their enemies having, on their dial, an "evade" modifier combining with any movement .

The Hobbit is fine if you go into with the mindset that it's Peter Jackson's prequel to Peter Jackson's LotR.

There are already a few feudal Japan skirmish games out there like Ronin, Daisho, or Torii. That doesn't include using other skirmish settings with a soft far east reskin. The likely skirmish level version of L5R would just be in the role playing books when they get around to them. A game similar to Runewars would be a better bet although there are more factions than Runewars. 9 clans make up the universe although no one knows what FFG will do with the setting yet.

Isn't Bushido also a skirmish game set in feudal Japan? And talking about video games, if you like Commandos/Desperados style games look at Blades of the Shogun.

10 minutes ago, Iceeagle85 said:

Isn't Bushido also a skirmish game set in feudal Japan? And talking about video games, if you like Commandos/Desperados style games look at Blades of the Shogun.

Yeah, forgot about Bushido. It's more a fantasy feudal Japan game but has its own charm like the tengu. Warlord Games just put out the pdf for its own system too: Test of Hono(u)r.

2 hours ago, Iceeagle85 said:

Isn't Bushido also a skirmish game set in feudal Japan? And talking about video games, if you like Commandos/Desperados style games look at Blades of the Shogun.

Ahah ! player of good taste spotted here Commandos... my childhood suffered on that series. And blades of the Shogun is truly a gem it its kind and scale.