Elves and Magic

By Whyllwyst, in Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay

Am I a little lost here? It says that Elves taught the Humans how to wield magic and helped them set up the college of sorceries, yet not a single career exists that allows an elf to use magic or to call upon the gods.

I think the short answer is that Elven magic is so much more powerful than human that it wouldn't fit into a starting career. And possibly that Elven mages that go adventuring with random humans are extremely rare as well...

Yeah but this is fairly disappointing in a game that I spent a large chunk of change on. Besides I don't buy it, its just as plausible for an Elf Wizard to be out opposing the forces of chaos as it is for a student of the colleges. I was hoping to play a Wood Elf Jade Wizard but I guess I will have to come up with my own.

Whyllwyst said:

Yeah but this is fairly disappointing in a game that I spent a large chunk of change on. Besides I don't buy it, its just as plausible for an Elf Wizard to be out opposing the forces of chaos as it is for a student of the colleges. I was hoping to play a Wood Elf Jade Wizard but I guess I will have to come up with my own.

If the Jade magic cards existed yet, that wouldn't be a bad way of representing it. By elven magic being incredibly powerful, we're referring to High Magic - Wood Elf magic is powerful, but not stupid-powerful like High Magic

I assume you are referring to High Magic from the Tabletop Battles? I haven't played Warhammer in 10+ years so I don't remember how powerful it was (or is now).

Whyllwyst said:

I assume you are referring to High Magic from the Tabletop Battles? I haven't played Warhammer in 10+ years so I don't remember how powerful it was (or is now).

Yes, and also as referred to in the 2nd edition of WFRP - the elven mages you did get were effectively using the human wizard careers, which when completed would represent the end of their apprenticeship, at which point they would go back to Saphery to learn the really powerful stuff

Wood Elf magic is a separate thing, but it's on a par with human magic lores.

Also don't forget the rules are a guide.

If you want a Wood Elf or even a high elf wizard then with your GM's consent do it. To stay close to the Old World feeling you would at least need a back groud that explained it. Maybe the elf was raised by a Human wizard from a child and trained in human magic. Would make for interesting story.

Remember that the Core Set is focused on the basics. Expect some later releases for more "advanced" career types, like additional magic careers (hedge wizards, necromancers, etc) and non-human magic.

Well, you could try playing a young Dragon Mage of Caledor who has yet to bond a Dragon, and just use the Bright Wizard stuff.

Hmmm... Actually, I'm going to nick that character concept for myself... MUAHAHA! gran_risa.gif

Yeah, Dragon Mages can be modelled by using the Bright Wizard career on a High Elf. And when Fantasy Flight makes Amber and Jade colleges, they should be compatible with Wood Elves.

But High Magic is just plain better than College magic. It's going to be hard to integrate - it'd be like introducing a Soldier career which has all the same stats as a regular Soldier, except they get an Expertise die on all rolls.

Now I think that we will have to wait for the official rulebook but still You can make Your own Elven mages.

But I think that we will not have to wait long. Remember the Shifting Shadows preview? The 3rd shadow was about magic, the eight colors ale then a vortex come up. There is a great vortex of magic on Ulthuan, can it be that we will see the Elven Magic in this expansion? I do hope so.

At the end od the 3rd shadow there was even a little thing sayed about the Chaos magic ane the Changer of ways, so maybe it will be even about the dork sorccery. We will have to wait tilll official news, but I think it is worth waiting for. :)