so i was looking through the image gallery trying to find a mandalorian (bet you can't guess why) when i accidentally set my profile pick away from what it was, a deathwatch space marine, and when i tryed to reset it i couldent find ANY warhammer images, i knew GW and FFG were breaking up but really no images?

All GW IP will be removed from websites owned by FFG by the end of the month. If there are any downloads or documentation you want go get it now. The GW IP based forum sections may go away as well.

This was a condition of losing the GW licenses.

Yup, it is a shame, FFG Warhammer games were really the only good things to come on table top since GW is going all crazy.

4 hours ago, Marinealver said:

Yup, it is a shame, FFG Warhammer games were really the only good things to come on table top since GW is going all crazy.

Well at least they come out with some decent models every now and again, cost-equal-to-a-fresh-kidney prices notwithstanding

Just now, Bike Stunts said:

Well at least they come out with some decent models every now and again, cost-equal-to-a-fresh-kidney prices notwithstanding

Sure, some of their models look great, but without a decent game system and rules to use them with, you're basically shelling out gold prices for plastic just so you can build it, paint it and gaze at it admiringly.

Seriously, I don't care how good the new Lord of Change looks, when the game system is hot garbage the only incentive to buy is OCD.

2 hours ago, FTS Gecko said:

Sure, some of their models look great, but without a decent game system and rules to use them with, you're basically shelling out gold prices for plastic just so you can build it, paint it and gaze at it admiringly.

Seriously, I don't care how good the new Lord of Change looks, when the game system is hot garbage the only incentive to buy is OCD.

I get where you're coming from, but building, painting and gazing is a fun all its own if you just like the hobby aspect of the game. I've got a small chaos army that probably will never see another game of 40k, but I plan to keep them around because they look nice and they were very fun to make. ON THE OTHER HAND, I agree that the prices for GW minis are pretty much inexcusable. A lot of 40k models look nice, but not that nice.

3 hours ago, FTS Gecko said:

Sure, some of their models look great, but without a decent game system and rules to use them with, you're basically shelling out gold prices for plastic just so you can build it, paint it and gaze at it admiringly.

Seriously, I don't care how good the new Lord of Change looks, when the game system is hot garbage the only incentive to buy is OCD.

Yes they are expensive but you can use them for other games, there are many rulesets out there that are just "plan" fantasy or sci-fi, I could use some of my WHF Empire miniatures for Frostgrave for example. and I personally have bought the odd miniature here and there from factions/systems I don't paly just to paint them and put them besides my monitor.

What I find really odd about GW is how they seem adverse to making money...

Not only do they charge too much for their models, with the rationale that they're a premium line. They do really, really monumentally stupid things like what they're doing with BloodBowl.

They produced a new two sided board to play on but only printed like a couple thousand of them so it sold out in a matter of hours. Did the same thing with the Skaven dice, so those are now going for $50+ on ebay.

They claimed that they didn't realize the game would be this popular so didn't produce enough... Yet now 2 months latter the Dwarf pitch and dice also sold out in next to no time. Now dice I sorta get, those would require at least a little time to produce, but the pitch is nothing but cardboard with an image printed on it or maybe a sticker. There's no good reason why they couldn't of produced a ton more this time.

Then Forgeworld makes it worse, they release a 'limited time' run of referee models, that you don't actually need, but then pull them the day before they release the first star player model. It's like they wanted to make sure no one could order both models at the same time.

GW is getting better, they're doing things now they never used to. Like putting out prize packs for Bloodbowl much like the seasonal kits for X-Wing... But they clearly still haven't gotten their heads wrapped around the idea that they're not the only game in town any longer.

You are right the way they handle Blood Bowl is very odd and i always hated that dice for armies were a limited item on release of a new Codex or Armybook why not keep these tthings in stock and if you want too have same exclsives at launch make some nice miniatures or make some extra special dice which are limited and normal unlimited ones.

Somewhere i read that they don't want to have products laying in warehouses and not making money so these thing which are not top sellers are only made in a limited print run to save money, maybe true but i don't like it.

1 hour ago, Iceeagle85 said:

Somewhere i read that they don't want to have products laying in warehouses and not making money so these thing which are not top sellers are only made in a limited print run to save money, maybe true but i don't like it.

Sure, you don't want a bunch of inventory sitting around. That hurts the bottom line, so you ideally want to keep inventory as small as possible. FFG kinda did the same thing back in wave 2, it was near impossible to get a Tie Interceptor or A-Wing for a while, because they didn't produce enough.

But FFG was brand new in the mini market at that time and worked hard to get their production bandwidth up to speed... I could see why GW may of produced a limited run of Skaven dice or the winter pitch. But by the time they made the Dwarf dice and pitch there's no longer an excuse to not make enough, it's not like they're new to making these kinds of products.

Forgeworld is worse with seemingly everything they make being a 'limited run', which someone on BGG I think posted how they basically admitted that they were doing that to artificially drive up demand. Fortunately you don't need any of the stuff from FW to actually play the game.

It depends on how you discribe limited run, for the referees (got mine today, lovely models) the said they would be a limited release but there is nothing suggesting that on Zug's page and yes some things have been pulled like terrain, mostly ammo/fuel dumps/entrenchment or things like the Sentinel Lifter (non combat variant for moving crates and stuff) most items are still available and the terrain and the Sentinel were available for years.

Some models get a new version and might not be available for some time and yes some Horus Heresy marines were also dropped but this was done because GW released plastic versions of them and there was that one case were the master mold or something of the Marienburg Landship somehow got destroyed and some more WHF miniatures have been dropped but I don't know if that is because WHF is no more.

GW also drops things from time to time, all the WHF plastic terrain that was neither hill nor wood had a non told limited run over several years, don't know why does where dropped.