Wave XI Speculation

By dpb1298, in X-Wing

6 minutes ago, Punning Pundit said:

Oh! And there's maybe a 30% chance of a 1st Order higgens boat.

Yeah, for all those times I wanted to deploy troops on the ground in this game. . .

33 minutes ago, jmswood said:

There was definitely an ugly in an earlier Poe comic. It had Interceptor wings and a body made from an AT-AT head.

I want this so very much.

So in general, I've consistently asked for Wave XI predictions from people (though this was before TIE Reaper had a name, that could work as a non-shuttle large with maybe a more combat focus - allowing gunship type builds) strongest support/theory is for the Gunboat (duh) with people liking the idea of Krennic's shuttle, getting the N-1 or Phantom II for Rebels (since Wave XI will be released long after S3 has ended), and then nobody knows that the hell for Scum though there's a slightly stronger support for the Havoc/H-6 since that's been in Armada.

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4 minutes ago, Darth Meanie said:

Yeah, for all those times I wanted to deploy troops on the ground in this game. . .

That's why I gave it a 30% chance.

2 hours ago, gamblertuba said:

Tried to find a GIF of Wasabi dry-heaving in Big Hero 6 and came up empty.

Does anyone have a pic of the Resistance A-wing from the Poe comic?

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There you go.

Well, 0-0-0 and BT-1 are coming to Imperial Assault, so perhaps the Ark Angel is coming to X-Wing?

I'm guessing the next wave could have new cards for for existing ships such as Phoenix Home II for the CR90.

Rebel/Resistance:

  • Rebel Veterans with Phoenix Squadron A-Wing, Grey Squadron Y-Wing, Phantom II
  • Resistance E-Wing or replacement for A-Wing
  • Resistance K-Wing or replacement for Y and B Wings
  • Rebel Infiltrators with Lambda Class shuttle cards, possibly Wedge in TIE Bomber, "Why do they keep letting us steal these?" as captured TIE equivalent
  • Rebel Fang Fighters (rewatched the midseason ad for Rebels 2:33)

Imperial/First Order:

  • Kylo Ren's fighter
  • First Order replacement for TIE Bomber/Punisher
  • Imp gunboat
  • Imperial Infiltrators with YT-1300 and a Thrawn crew card, pilots for other Rebel and Scum ships

Scum:

  • "Stolen Falcon" YT-1300, pilot cards for stolen Lambda class shuttle
  • Mining Guild TIEs with less maneuverability
  • Umbaran Starfighter upgraded from Clone Wars just to give Scum something
  • Naboo Fighters again just to give the Scum something
  • Meson Martinet, not really seen in Force Awakens but is an option
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Forgot something
1 hour ago, flyboymb said:

Give us Scum YT-1300s so the Rebels know the butthurt Imperial players felt when Sabine's TIE was announced (or some other Scum ship).

Scum already have 3 rebel ships.

18 minutes ago, thepicto said:

Scum already have 3 rebel ships.

Rebel ships that were originally Republic ships or ships on the common market. Those were fighters that were always known to be on the open market, not something near and dear like the X-Wing or B-Wing.

Actually, after the young Han Solo movie comes out, a Scum Falcon might not be all that much of a stretch.

B-wings did appear in the hands of pirates in Heir to the Jedi. And Saw's Rebel faction is extremist enough and distanced enough from the mainstream Rebellion, that it might be possible to get away with having Saw as Scum faction (along with his X-wings).

So - one could justify even things as "near and dear" as those, for Scum.

Edited by Ironlord

I just want authotrusters carrying, nimble fighter with 3 dice base attack for Rebels. And I don't want for it to have any astromech slot - otherwise, just like with new and old X-Wing, I will have to overpay for regen droids which in current meta are not good.

Maybe the A-wing could be used as a base? According to the databank - the Rebels A-wings have heavy weapons, but the RoTJ A-Wings have had their heavy weapons stripped off and replaced with lighter weapons.

A Phoenix Squadron A-wing that's slightly slower, but just as agile and with Attack 3 and Hull 3 instead of Attack 2 & Hull 2, would fit with what you're describing.

With Hondo conspicuously missing from the C-ROC Gozanti, the only sane reason I can think of to leave him out is that his stolen and modified Sentinel Shuttle, the Last Chance , is coming out soon for Scum.

It would give Scum another ship other than the YV-666 that can take multiple crew in 100 point games, presumably closer to the Lambda than anything else in stats and dial, though there are surely some twists they can give it as has been done with the U-Wing.

The problem with a new A-Wing is the price.
I'm not willing to pay 40 points again, a slight increase, similar to T65->T70 would be good. So around 35pt for the fully outfitted PTL+Mod+? PS9 ace, compared to the 32pt Tycho with 2x3pt EPT and a 2pt mod.

Or in short: make the PS9 around 27pt.
Tycho is 26 but gets chardaan refit, so an effective 3pt difference for the newer model.

It sounds like there are 2 ideas for a new A-Wing: Phoenix Squadron and Black Squadron. There are definitely some interesting things that could be done by moving in either direction, but I can see a downside or two.

Firstly: if it's a whole new kit (new stats + new dial), we run into the TIE S/F, TIE F/O problem, where it's simply difficult to tell them apart on the table. They are _very_ distinct from a play experience standpoint, but the visual distinction are incredibly minor. And I fear the same would be true of a new A-Wing.

Secondly: if it's not a new kit, but rather a new set of options, we run into an issue of how to create those options. The title slot is spoken for. The mod slot is... Not exactly spoken for, but darned near always autothrusters. And the missile slot is either Chardaan Refit or Proton Rockets. So you either fill those slots with something that's simply better than what currently exists, or something that is not as good- the odds of being the same are kinda minimal.

I'm not saying it can't be done! But I think it would require something that we're unlikely to see in a standard $15 blister pack.

2 hours ago, Mangipan said:

With Hondo conspicuously missing from the C-ROC Gozanti, the only sane reason I can think of to leave him out is that his stolen and modified Sentinel Shuttle, the Last Chance , is coming out soon for Scum.

It would give Scum another ship other than the YV-666 that can take multiple crew in 100 point games, presumably closer to the Lambda than anything else in stats and dial, though there are surely some twists they can give it as has been done with the U-Wing.

I have also considered him notable by his absence, would love the above. Wasn't sure if he would come with the C-Roc but if not, he must be on the docket somewhere and believe your suggestion would be pretty awesome.

Throwing my hat in for th3 lumpy whatsit resistance transport that leia rode in on

Just so we get crew tech to

A) make finn work on something other than rey

B) wep engineer targeting synch to troll peeps with r7 biggs

Assuming that works

Basically a rebel upsilon ito upgrade slots, but it is otherwise a large base bwing

as if we haven't already had one of THESE .

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4 hours ago, Darth Meanie said:

Yeah, for all those times I wanted to deploy troops on the ground in this game. . .

But that U-Wing, now that's a thing of beauty

I'd love to see a return to the X-Wing PC games for the next wave, for old time's sake.

The YT-2000 "Otana" and XG-1 have both appeared in other FFG games, and the XG-1 quite recently as well so that gives me a bit of hope. Add the Cloakshape and Skipray for Scum and you've got a delicious wave of old-school goodness

However...

Sabine's TIE has set a scary precedent; repaints in Wave releases. So we could end up seeing a Partisan X-Wing or Mining Guild Pac-Man TIE. There's also the Resistance Transport for Force Awakens plus Krennic's Shuttle, the Imperial Cargo Shuttle and TIE Reaper. And after how well the ARC-170 was received, I'm not so sure the N1 is out of the question, either.

21 minutes ago, FTS Gecko said:

I'd love to see a return to the X-Wing PC games for the next wave, for old time's sake.

The YT-2000 "Otana" and XG-1 have both appeared in other FFG games, and the XG-1 quite recently as well so that gives me a bit of hope. Add the Cloakshape and Skipray for Scum and you've got a delicious wave of old-school goodness

However...

Sabine's TIE has set a scary precedent; repaints in Wave releases.

I would love if they did an old PC game wave! And I totally agree about the bad precedent of a repaint during a wave release. Also just another factions ship with a different factions pilots and crew is also a bad precedent.

I haven't seen Cad Banes ship the Xanadu Blood mentioned. Allows for another Bounty Hunter to be added to the game.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Xanadu_Blood

Cloakshapes were in a canon novel too, there's some solid precedent there.

I never understood the hate on sabines tie, it's a unique ship and itgot considerable air time in cannon material. I personally love the idea of a stolen ship, makes sense rebels would steal imperial tech. Pluse the rebels needed a low cost ship with decent capability.

I think mining build ties would be unique and awesome as well.

I'd love to see some clone war area ships, and it long over due for a lea pilot card.