mel's miniatures reactions

By Chuntsinger, in Star Wars: Armada Painting and Modification

1 minute ago, jscott991 said:

That fits with what Mel said. The VSD is definitely not 50% longer, but it is longer.

Your eyes can deceive you, don't trust them! (yeah, I'm full of quotes today)

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mel could have simply replied to the doubts with "I find your lack of faith disturbing"

got the 15cm Vindicator I had Mel make for me yesterday. I had it done in black high detail acrylic to see how that material. Here it is...

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Not bad... had a funky smell to it...LOL

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Then there was this... apparently the bottom of the ship was made by Orks riveting the decking....LOL Those are the spots from the support columns from the model being printed. I have most of them sanded off but unfortunately it took most of the little square details from the decking. I think I'll stick with FUD.

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3 hours ago, Commander Klank said:

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Not bad... had a funky smell to it...LOL

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Gotta love that smell, and it lingers and lingers and lingers... that's finest Colombian complex hydrocarbons right there, jefe ;-)

Even with the pinholing issue which needs a bit of afterwork and filling, the plastic still feels a hell of a lot more robust than FUD, don't it?

I've also filled my frigates and dreadnaught (above) with a leftover "water effect" PVA type gel, which dries clear, giving them both additional internal mass, and an internal matrix to resist... feline interventions.

feel like a tough model for sure... and the pinhole issue is sanding out rather well. Unfortunately allot of the small structures on the decking is getting sanded down as well. It is the underside of the ship and isn't seen much so I can get over that. I'll put some small squares and triangles is tin sheet plastic on the decking to give the surface a traditional look.

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-winces- That's almost as bad as WSF...

In other news this week my Profundity will be arriving. ^_^

21 hours ago, Commander Klank said:

feel like a tough model for sure... and the pinhole issue is sanding out rather well. Unfortunately allot of the small structures on the decking is getting sanded down as well. It is the underside of the ship and isn't seen much so I can get over that. I'll put some small squares and triangles is tin sheet plastic on the decking to give the surface a traditional look.

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That looks like something to be taken into consideration during design, I think.

tbh, I'd be happy with the miniature coming out as you've got it above, and maybe to account for the issue to have the lines cut a little deeper into the model, and to omit the usual surface detail completely? Cuts down on work, plastic, and loss?

Interesting how the hanger bay escaped pinpocalyse though, isn't it?

Yeah, for the underneath or bottom side of the ship you might want to look at what details would suffer from the required sanding and filing to remove the pinholes... I think the pinholes are only on the "side" that faces the printers printing table. I also suspect the hanger was to deep for the support columns used to hold up the ship on the printing table.

please show us that mc 75 man, that'll look way cool

1 hour ago, Chuntsinger said:

please show us that mc 75 man, that'll look way cool

As soon as I get it! Currently it's somewhere between NYC and Binghamton.

roger that

Have to say, sorry about BHDA, it's not quite the material I first thought it would be. I might relegate it to just smaller ships where the droplets are hardly noticeable. I would love to see the large Vindicator once is painted to see if it looses a lot of detail afte the sanding.

Outerrimrebel I can't wait to see your MC75, today I saw a picture of the Lucrehulk Star Destroyers in FUD and it was gigantic. Thanks to OmniJackal:
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27 minutes ago, melminiatures said:

Have to say, sorry about BHDA, it's not quite the material I first thought it would be. I might relegate it to just smaller ships where the droplets are hardly noticeable. I would love to see the large Vindicator once is painted to see if it looses a lot of detail afte the sanding.

Outerrimrebel I can't wait to see your MC75, today I saw a picture of the Lucrehulk Star Destroyers in FUD and it was gigantic. Thanks to OmniJackal:
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Noooo don't retire the BHDA, it is totally worth the effort. I'd just caveat it so that buyers are aware there's extra work involved, and leave it at that. I am happy to pay a bit less, get a sturdier mini, and put the work in. I'd actually quite like a range expansion rather than decrease :-)

Right out of the box:

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First impression: It's an amazing sculpt, the detail is fairly crisp and the print came out with a minimum of noise. The size of the MC75 could easily be swapped for either a Lib or a H1, as the Wing-less Lib in the picture is barely a quarter inch or so larger ( aprox 6cm or so). I can't wait to put a brush to this!!

8 hours ago, outerrimrebel said:

First impression: It's an amazing sculpt, the detail is fairly crisp and the print came out with a minimum of noise. The size of the MC75 could easily be swapped for either a Lib or a H1, as the Wing-less Lib in the picture is barely a quarter inch or so larger ( aprox 6cm or so). I can't wait to put a brush to this!!

Prepare a boarding party!

it will be done my lord

One of Mel's dreadnaughts - stripes were achieved by masking off with yellow tape, sprinkled with sage (I didn't have seasalt, but sage works too, and smells good), dabbed with a piece of foam. Another victim of the dreaded and mysterious SPACE CORROSION, which is caused by midichlorians, of course ;-)

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Nebulon-B2. Local forces, definitely. No pizza-slices, nothing fancy, no time or budget to paint over the midichlorian rust. Definitely need to paint up some "garrison issue" TIEs now.

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those are really nice and fit the theme that the core set ships paint schemes

Thanks, I just kinda winged it. To get that look (and yes I like Vallejo game colours), I basecoated in 72.050 Cold Grey with the airbrush, then an ultra heavy wash of 5:1 water to Black Ink. Left that to dry for ages, followed up with a highlight of Cold Grey again, then successively light drybrushes of 72.049 (Stonewall Grey) and 72.047 (Wolf Grey), then a light inking with 20:1 water to black ink, and while that was touch dry added a drop of brown ink and selectively dabbed on midichlorian rust.

I'm going for a pattern where the "local" ships, dreadnaughts, nebulons, carracks etc. look way more beat up than the Pride Of The Imperial Navy - gives me options on how to use the minis depending on what mood I'm in, or whether my opponent fancies being dragged into my world of elaborate storytelling and scenario-crafting (I'm also a writer).

So the death triangles (even the VSDs, for now) get a nice successively whiter-from-grey paintscheme to go with the Rogue/IV/VI/VII feel for Star Destroyer White (no Errant Venture yet), whereas the "local bulk cruisers" have to make do.

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Also good-enough-for-me, freighters! Go inspect them closely, Alpha 1, they may contain contraband.

Mel's s closest (and my favourite even despite the WSF issues), Utar's resin at the back. The WSF sucks in paint like a sponge, gave them both a Cold Grey airbase and a heavy ink wash, but they've both ended up looking so authentically metallic I stopped there and called them good enough. The red is 72.141 (Heavy Red) which has more pigment than normal paint, and I still had to throw a lot on to get the colour to stay on the WSF.

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On 3/1/2017 at 0:11 PM, melminiatures said:

Have to say, sorry about BHDA, it's not quite the material I first thought it would be. I might relegate it to just smaller ships where the droplets are hardly noticeable. I would love to see the large Vindicator once is painted to see if it looses a lot of detail afte the sanding.

Outerrimrebel I can't wait to see your MC75, today I saw a picture of the Lucrehulk Star Destroyers in FUD and it was gigantic. Thanks to OmniJackal:
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I really wish you'd make a regular star Destroyer from that model by getting rid of the sphere and filling in the open area with SD structure.

59 minutes ago, Commander Klank said:

I really wish you'd make a regular star Destroyer from that model by getting rid of the sphere and filling in the open area with SD structure.

It'd cost an absolute fortune though, surely... plus the FFG model isn't *that* bad, is it? Better to go for the things we can't get any more, like the Strike Cruiser, or the Assassin/Modified Corvette?

Well I'm 57 and I'm at that point in life where this would be well within the "I could afford that if I wanted it" zone... ;) (I'm not bragging, I'm just saying).

The FFG model is great; I just want a bad-assed version of the ISD on the board that is unique from what everyone else has. :D Anyways I doubt Mel would do it; he's said that before and he is busy making all those cool ships FFG don't have in their inventory.

Speaking of Mel hares the big Vindicator model WIP he wanted to see... this is the bottom with just a base coat of light gray and a wash of GW nul oil (with Pledge floor polish added in). As you can see it turned out just fine.

The pinholes sanded off well enough but there were so many I just said frack it and sanded the whole bottom smooth with sanding sticks. This removed most of the tiny squares (surface detail) that were spread out over the surface of the ship. I then cut little squares and other shapes and glued them to the surface to get back some of that type of detail. At no time were the paneling detail lines at risk, which is what I suspect Mel was concerned about.

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Sooo, as you can see, if Mel did do the custom ISD and you got it in BHDA to save some money the bottom would be manageable for a modeler with some experience and time under his belt. It would just involve "a ****-ton", to quote The Walking Dead's Negan, of filing and sanding. You'd then have to add back some surface detail like I did with sheet plastic.

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10 minutes ago, Commander Klank said:

Well I'm 57 and I'm at that point in life where this would be well within the "I could afford that if I wanted it" zone... ;) (I'm not bragging, I'm just saying).

The FFG model is great; I just want a bad-assed version of the ISD on the board that is unique from what everyone else has. :D Anyways I doubt Mel would do it; he's said that before and he is busy making all those cool ships FFG don't have in their inventory.

Speaking of Mel hares the big Vindicator model WIP he wanted to see... this is the bottom with just a base coat of light gray and a wash of GW nul oil (with Pledge floor polish added in). As you can see it turned out just fine.

The pinholes sanded off well enough but there were so many I just said frack it and sanded the whole bottom smooth with sanding sticks. This removed most of the tiny squares (surface detail) that were spread out over the surface of the ship. I then cut little squares and other shapes and glued them to the surface to get back some of that type of detail. At no time were the paneling detail lines at risk, which is what I suspect Mel was concerned about.

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Sooo, as you can see, if Mel did do the custom ISD and you got it in BHDA to save some money the bottom would be manageable for a modeler with some experience and time under his belt. It would just involve "a ****-ton", to quote The Walking Dead's Negan, of filing and sanding. You'd then have to add back some surface detail like I did with sheet plastic.

Oooooh, nice save. The plastisheet is a good addition too, I may have to shamelessly steal your idea there for the X7 station build. I've just picked up a silcone/resin duplication setup, so I'm going to focus on doing one of the four pods well, and mass-produce the rest. Hopefully get my small lathe working again for the body, too.

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