2 minutes ago, Thunderchild said:

The thing that bugs me the most whilst playing are people who use the phrase "Oh so you're running away?" whenever I decide to pull a ship out of a furball. I get it a lot and it still stings whenever someone says it to me, I have to often explain that I'm not running away just simply trying to get out of their arc and reposition my ship because odly enough I don't want it to be destroyed. I just can't understand why people say this in a game where tactical movement is so important.

I'd respond to that with "he's not retreating, he's advancing in a different direction"

New pet peeve. I found a TFA core set for $15 at Target. I convinced my dad to buy it for me. When I got home I asked if I could buy it with my allowance money. My mom said, "Why? You already have too many X-wing ships."

YOU CAN NEVER HAVE TOO MANY X-WING SHIPS!

19 minutes ago, Thunderchild said:

I just can't understand why people say [you're running away?] in a game where tactical movement is so important.

They usually say it because it's what they fear: you have an advantage, they fear you're going to exploit it, and people want the opportunity to erase your advantage and claim it for themselves. By calling it out, they're counting on it stinging a little and making you feel bad a little.

I do it, but I'm open and notorious (and hopefully funny) about it: "Oh, my God, Darth Vader is running like a little pansy?! Darth freakin' Vader?! "

I never hold it against people, though, and sometimes it will bite the runner in the butt. A few weeks ago, I had a 36 point ship left, and my opponent has a 35 point ship left. With three or four minutes left, I started running and he started chasing me. With 30 seconds left, somebody smarter than either of us asked, " ... But how much have you each destroyed?" My opponent was running 98 points, I was running 100 ... so I lost by 1 point.

15 minutes ago, AwesomeJedi said:

New pet peeve. I found a TFA core set for $15 at Target. I convinced my dad to buy it for me. When I got home I asked if I could buy it with my allowance money. My mom said, "Why? You already have too many X-wing ships."

YOU CAN NEVER HAVE TOO MANY X-WING SHIPS!

Hello, my name is Marinealver, and I have a problem.

51 minutes ago, Thunderchild said:

The thing that bugs me the most whilst playing are people who use the phrase "Oh so you're running away?" whenever I decide to pull a ship out of a furball. I get it a lot and it still stings whenever someone says it to me, I have to often explain that I'm not running away just simply trying to get out of their arc and reposition my ship because odly enough I don't want it to be destroyed. I just can't understand why people say this in a game where tactical movement is so important.

Oh this is a bad one. It's the player who is being a terrible sportsman by saying you're the one being unsportsmanlike for doing something that is COMPLETELY within the rules, and even the spirit, of the game.

You see it there but I'd also say you see it in many of these other "pet peeves" at least if the person is bringing it up to their opponent. Complaining about someone using a turret is unsportsmanlike even if it is something you don't like playing against it because "it gives that player an advantage" that they don't currently have/aren't using.

56 minutes ago, Thunderchild said:

A curse on how easy it to double post on these forums when it doesn't look like it registers the first "submit" press!

52 minutes ago, StevenO said:

Oh this is a bad one. It's the player who is being a terrible sportsman by saying you're the one being unsportsmanlike for doing something that is COMPLETELY within the rules, and even the spirit, of the game.

You see it there but I'd also say you see it in many of these other "pet peeves" at least if the person is bringing it up to their opponent. Complaining about someone using a turret is unsportsmanlike even if it is something you don't like playing against it because "it gives that player an advantage" that they don't currently have/aren't using.

For a second I thought I had clicked on the fortressing thread again by accident

I didn't read them all. But my main issue, is that flying correctly is not as important as it used to be. Bumping used to mean something, It mean no actions because you move was anticipated. Now it means you don't really care as much. Mindlink and multiple other upgrades allow those actionless ships to still get actions. X7 always get an evade, even why stress or bumped as long as they go 3 or more, Dengar gets tokens from Manaroo, even if he bumps.

How about this if you bump you cannot take any actions period, even those on upgrade cards. Now the game suddenly becomes very fun again.

Bumping still means something if you fly to take advantage of it (assuming it's your opponent bumping after a block). I've been flying mindlinked u-boats, and many games only fire 1-2 torpedoes, if that. Just blocking and positioning means I've been able to do most of the work with just the 2-attack primaries (albeit turrets, but still only 2-attack). My last match was against old-fenaroo, and I had fenn down to 1 hull and teroch down to 2 hull with nothing but primaries (finished both off with torpedo shots).

I've done the same to defenders with their free evades. Even with ways to get free tokens like mindlink and x7, you still suffer from not getting your own action to stack.

I agree, bumping does mean something. However, now it's way less than previously. Thus making it possible to fly worse and not suffer from it as much as others.

Just make it so if you bump no actions period and no gaining any tokens from friendly ships. Now the playing field is leveled again, Tie Swarms and Other generics can no exist again.

And Flying your list becomes paramount.

3 hours ago, Thunderchild said:

The thing that bugs me the most whilst playing are people who use the phrase "Oh so you're running away?" whenever I decide to pull a ship out of a furball. I get it a lot and it still stings whenever someone says it to me, I have to often explain that I'm not running away just simply trying to get out of their arc and reposition my ship because odly enough I don't want it to be destroyed. I just can't understand why people say this in a game where tactical movement is so important.

Running away? No: getting into a better position so I can wipe out your ships.

Take it in stride if you can, but more importantly know that in essence they're admitting that you're still a threat to them.

And never admit that you bumped your ships on accident out loud. You meant to do that clever maneuver to change the pace the game was taking. Don't show despair or disappointment when little mishaps happen. If anything if you appear positive about it, they'll second guess themselves and make a slip up of their own. The mind games are part of the game too.

The thing that bugs me the most whilst playing are people who use the phrase "Oh so you're running away?" whenever I decide to pull a ship out of a furball. I get it a lot and it still stings whenever someone says it to me, I have to often explain that I'm not running away just simply trying to get out of their arc and reposition my ship because odly enough I don't want it to be destroyed. I just can't understand why people say this in a game where tactical movement is so important.

Running away? No: getting into a better position so I can wipe out your ships.

Take it in stride if you can, but more importantly know that in essence they're admitting that you're still a threat to them.

And never admit that you bumped your ships on accident out loud. You meant to do that clever maneuver to change the pace the game was taking. Don't show despair or disappointment when little mishaps happen. If anything if you appear positive about it, they'll second guess themselves and make a slip up of their own. The mind games are part of the game too.

Pet Peeve: Double Double Posts Posts.

3 hours ago, Admiral Deathrain said:

For a second I thought I had clicked on the fortressing thread again by accident

I would have said pretty much the exact same thing on the most recent Fortress thread. I've certainly said it on previous threads talking about fortressing.

Calling something "unsportsmanlike" just because one is playing by the rules and happens to be using some strategy you don't agree with at the moment is what is actually unsportsmanlike. And to think some people call the exact opposite of fortressing, otherwise known as playing a very evasive/defensive game, as unsportsmanlike as well.

U-boat bashing. I thought it was a natural progression that resulted from Palp/Aces dominance.

I do like that I can play Rebels again though.

I think the biggest problem with Fortressing fix via errata/FAQ is what about those furballs where staying still was NOT intentional. How do you separate intentional bumping from non intentional bumping.

People say that the game being a somewhat of a flightsim-combat game (or at least the most abstract representation of it) ships should always move and for theme wise I agree. But back in wave 3 there were the big pile-in furballs in the center where ships just didn't move. It wasn't that it was intentional it was just there were so many ships on the table and movement options were not as varied as they are today. Breaking out of such jams would leave you with your back turned and no one to shoot at while those still locked in the ball would have pot shots at you. You didn't have enough space to K-turn so that would have just gave you a stress and you will still be facing the wrong way, and moving anywhere else would result in you still overlapping back to your original spot. So how do you separate that from deploying in a corner like a wall that doesn't move?

I don't like whining. About power creep, fixes, things needs to be changed etc. I don't enjoy all the x-wing 2.0 talk - always skipping it during podcasts.

8 hours ago, StevenO said:

I would have said pretty much the exact same thing on the most recent Fortress thread. I've certainly said it on previous threads talking about fortressing.

Calling something "unsportsmanlike" just because one is playing by the rules and happens to be using some strategy you don't agree with at the moment is what is actually unsportsmanlike. And to think some people call the exact opposite of fortressing, otherwise known as playing a very evasive/defensive game, as unsportsmanlike as well.

Its like some more old school shooters where some of the more powerfull weapons where declared "noob weapons" by the community, completely ignoring the element of area control they introduced to the game. I really dislike people who hate the player, not the game.

14 minutes ago, Oldpara said:

I don't like whining. About power creep, fixes, things needs to be changed etc. I don't enjoy all the x-wing 2.0 talk - always skipping it during podcasts.

Hey Para, this is slightly unrelated to this thread but I was wanting to ask if the Legion Krakow guys (yourself included) are doing any X-Wing this week? Parattanni is possibly my most favorite list that Ive played and I always learn something new from those videos about how to fly the list better since you've obviously practiced with it more than I have. I haven't played many games with it yet but I'm 7-0 so far, mostly just from watching how players better than myself fly the list. I'd like to maybe see how it does against Kylo Ren since nobody in my local area has gotten the new shuttle yet for me to play against.

3 hours ago, TitaniumChopstick said:

Hey Para, this is slightly unrelated to this thread but I was wanting to ask if the Legion Krakow guys (yourself included) are doing any X-Wing this week? Parattanni is possibly my most favorite list that Ive played and I always learn something new from those videos about how to fly the list better since you've obviously practiced with it more than I have. I haven't played many games with it yet but I'm 7-0 so far, mostly just from watching how players better than myself fly the list. I'd like to maybe see how it does against Kylo Ren since nobody in my local area has gotten the new shuttle yet for me to play against.

Cheers, nice to hear.

We practice for Yavin Open next weekend. We'll try to record and post tomorrow's or todays maneuvers.

People who complain about consistently bad dice rolls during matches and claim that "Statistically this shouldn't happen!"

The central limit theorem & law of large numbers would disagree!