Hi all.

After the new versions of squadrons in CC I was thinking how it would be to have other versions of the ones from R&V, like for example:

- Chewbacca - Millennium Falcon
- Lando Calrissian - Millennium Falcon
- Leebo - Outrider
- Kyle Katarn - Moldy Crow

And even it could be the kid from Rebels who was piloting a YT-2400 (I don't remember his name).

Of course one still wouldn't be able to field two Millennium Falcons for example, but I think it could be interesting.

What other versions could you think of and what abilities would they have?

I'd like to see it, too.

But you have one point wrong there:

You won't see it without a Major Errata to all existing Rogue and Villain Squadrons.

Because they're unique dots are in the wrong spot. Or rather, they have one unique dot, where they really need to.

Go on. Check the card.

What part of the Card is unique?

"Han Solo".

Millenium Falcon is not Unique. At all.

The problem is, even if they gave you all of the above as options... You could have all 3 Falcons on the Table at the Same Time, as there is NOTHING TO STOP YOU...

8 minutes ago, Drasnighta said:

I'd like to see it, too.

But you have one point wrong there:

You won't see it without a Major Errata to all existing Rogue and Villain Squadrons.

Because they're unique dots are in the wrong spot. Or rather, they have one unique dot, where they really need to.

Go on. Check the card.

What part of the Card is unique?

"Han Solo".

Millenium Falcon is not Unique. At all.

The problem is, even if they gave you all of the above as options... You could have all 3 Falcons on the Table at the Same Time, as there is NOTHING TO STOP YOU...

You're right, I never noticed that.

So I'd like it to happen... with an added Errata for that

11 minutes ago, Drasnighta said:

You could have all 3 Falcons on the Table at the Same Time, as there is NOTHING TO STOP YOU...

Except, of course, an enraged nerd table flip for trying such heresy.

Just now, RedPriest said:

Except, of course, an enraged nerd table flip for trying such heresy.

You've still done it before the table flips. Ergo, nothing to stop you.

1 minute ago, Drasnighta said:

You've still done it before the table flips. Ergo, nothing to stop you.

And then here's having to look at yourself in the mirror the next day. One would only see...a monster.

I'd like to see it too.

10 minutes ago, Drasnighta said:

The problem is, even if they gave you all of the above as options... You could have all 3 Falcons on the Table at the Same Time, as there is NOTHING TO STOP YOU...

What if every new Millennium Falcon card includes a unique dot before "Millennium Falcon"?

I would also like to see a way to get upgrade crew cards for the shuttles, so you can have Chewbacca as copilot.

Perhaps this can be fixed in a future campaign expansion?

Lando Falcon (Ladies man)

All female aces firing at you cut their dice pool by half rounded down.

xD

24 minutes ago, Drasnighta said:

You could have all 3 Falcons on the Table at the Same Time, as there is NOTHING TO STOP YOU...

Seems fine to me.

What can go wrong?

10 minutes ago, Ell said:

What if every new Millennium Falcon card includes a unique dot before "Millennium Falcon"?

Well, that would work for the new ones. But not for Han, you could still have Han Falcon and Chewie Falcon or Lando Falcon and still be legal from a rules standpoint.

You could not have Han in the Falcon and a new unique Commander Han aka for example.

That being said, I'm sure its something that could be worked out relatively easily. If FFG were interested in making rules easy and intuitive...

No, that would work. If they issued a Han commander, you could not bring both the commander and squadron versions of Han, because they are both unique. Additionally, you could not bring both Lando and Han in the Falcon, because Lando's Falcon is unique. No errata necessary!

18 minutes ago, Eggzavier said:

Well, that would work for the new ones. But not for Han, you could still have Han Falcon and Chewie Falcon or Lando Falcon and still be legal from a rules standpoint.

When speaking about unique names, I thought it was the name itself what cannot be fielded twice. A unique name is identified by a bullet (dot) to the left of the name, but that dot is not part of the name.

We could get Iron Squadron for the YT-2400!

1 minute ago, Ell said:

When speaking about unique names, I thought it was the name itself what cannot be fielded twice. A unique name is identified by a bullet (dot) to the left of the name, but that dot is not part of the name.

That's correct, but the dot is what indicates uniqueness under the rules. All of us know that the Millenium falcon is a unique ship, but it is not signified as unique under the rules currently.

So Han Solo is unique, as he has the dot next to his name. The Millennium Falcon notation on that particular card is not unique (under the rules) without further clarification, as Dras pointed out.

So even if a dot is added to future incarnations such as:

• Chewbacca
• Millennium Falcon

From a *rules perspective*, there would be absolutely nothing stopping you from also running:

• Han Solo
  Millennium Falcon

It's not so much that it is unique names that cannot be fielded more than once (which is true), but without additional rules explanation (again, to the rulebook itself) the only indication we have of a unique name is the dot.

(Again, this would be silly, but from a rules perspective this is the state we are currently in - that being said if this should come to pass you should slap anyone who tries to justify playing this)

I would like to see more unique pilots for the squads we have, but the Falcon (Slave I) are ones that the ship needs to be unique as well. This isn't X-Wing, I don't want to see Chewie in a generic YT-1300 while Han is flying a YT-1300 with the Falcon title. X-wing has provided a lot of named pilots that could be brought over and hopefully some will; I just don't want Armada going further down the squadron rabbit hole.

They could errata the wording of the unique dot so that it does work as is suggested here.. in that you couldn't add a falcon with a dot to a fleet that has a falcon of any kind, dot or no.
That would be easier than new cards for the ships.

34 minutes ago, Eggzavier said:

• Chewbacca
• Millennium Falcon

From a *rules perspective*, there would be absolutely nothing stopping you from also running:

• Han Solo
  Millennium Falcon

In that case above, wouldn't you be running in the same fleet two cards that share the same name "Millennium Falcon" which is unique because of the Chewbacca card?

The name "Millennium Falcon" is not unique as long as you use only Han. But if you also field Chewbacca, it becomes unique.

From my understanding of the rules, for a name to be unique you would only need one card that says so.

Am I wrong?

The wording in the rulebook says

Unique Names
A card’s name is unique if there is a bullet (•) to the left of
the name.
• A fleet cannot contain more than one card with the
same unique name, even if those cards are of different
types.

So.. the unmarked falcon is not a unique name.. so not the "same unique name" as the lando falcon..sadly. From what I interpret.

That's the exact problem for sure, and I think this will be my last comment on this, because I think this is a silly oversight on their part and a silly argument to have because of how easy it could be fixed.

Normally, having one copy of a unique card would prevent you from running another version of that unique card, but only by virtue of both cards being rendered unique by the inclusion of the dot.

For example, commander Darth Vader and pilot Darth Vader are unique cards because they are signified as being unique by the presence of the dot.

In this situation though, with Millennium Falcon and Slave I not having dots, they are not unique.

If a later card, like a Chewie Millennium Falcon gets a dot, then that version is unique, but it does not change the uniqueness of the previous one because by their definition cards without the dot are not unique.

It would be as if a new unique upgrade card were released which shared it's title with a previously released non-unique upgrade card, and they have different effects. There would be nothing rules wise to prevent you from taking one of the now unique upgrade and as many of the generic if you want. In the case of the Millennium Falcon, it's Han who is unique, and is therefore the limiting factor.

You people are just crazy!!! We just got 16 unique squads from the CC and 8 uniques/8 generics from Wave 5. Is your thirst for new stuff unquenchable? I am still trying to wrap my head around all the new combinations and possibilities with what they already gave us...

We want it all

And, what about crew upgrades for shuttles? For example, Chewie giving Intel to Han...

Thanks for your input, @Eggzavier and @homedrone

Could give the imperials the norgi yt1300 falcon clone, and the rebels aces firespray

All of this is easily fixed with the introduction of the "Aluminum Falcon" to be released in wave VI.

38 minutes ago, Ell said:

We want it all

And, what about crew upgrades for shuttles? For example, Chewie giving Intel to Han...

Thanks for your input, @Eggzavier and @homedrone

I can't imagine a big monkey giving intel to someone.

But I see wookies serving the Empire as fuel for those big reactor. Bwahaha