Chaos Sigils, Daemonhosts, and Hedge Witches- oh my!

By Senpai_Mausu, in Dark Heresy

I am most likely in the wrong spot for this- if not, good for me! If so- I suppose that's what mods and admins are for.

My first time posting on this board and to be honest, slightly intimidated considering Milova's, my fiancee, inquiry responses. What a hoot.

Alright

I've been stewing for a month and I can honestly say my personal sanity rates are dwindling. Because the situation is something with limitless possibilities.

Allow me to explain-

My gal is Graile Vepsti the neckron surviving, warhammer world casting, telekinetic wonder who is oddly enough not dead yet for the obvious heresy.

I'll be posting my fanfic eventually but yeesh. Anyways- finally to the point.

Graile has a bit of a bad habit for psykers- from the trauma she's faced, she'd developed a firm case of cleptomania and has a very bad habit of never giving things up. I picked up several Chaos Sigils, as they're useful for spell casting-etc in warhammer fantasy. After dropping some off an a semi-sentient creature, causing issues on the inbetween, I kept one just in case of spell casting emergencies as I had been trapped where I was for several years- and had no faith in my newfound companions.

And I tucked it away in a pocket, forgetting all about it for oh... almost two years, Well I forgot about the sigil, learned how to use a tau weapon, killed a space wolf (not singlehandedly, just was graced enough to get the last stike ... or so), annnd alot of other neat horribly wonderful things.

One morning Graile wakes up, looks in the mirror and finds her sanctiong brand, one which crosses from one shoulder to the other- across the neck, and finds the long forgotten chaos sigil around her neck. Sanctioning Brand gone, but no one seeming to be able to see the chaos sigil and Inquisitor Persephone Domina, a woman who detests Graile's very exsistance, is suddenly very polite- treating Graile like a granddaughter.

Now Graile, aware of the implications, but not yet contacted by whom/whatever wants whatever they want- is left to stew.

I've made a decision to make a Daemonhost... now before ya'll tyrade off into how much of an idiot I am. This is the mind think of my dear Graile.

"If a Daemonhost was made in the name of the inquisiton and kept under wraps as necessary, surely there will be an execution of the maker in the name of the God Emperor- However, if the Daemonhost, in the time utulized before the obvious end of the summoner/packager/whatever- oo a shiny- ah... right- before the end of the summoner/sealer/whatever- is for the God Emperor to make a single section of the ever expansive realm safe or safer- then why the heck not? After all- I'm going to die from heresy at some point. The reality is, I'm an Imperial Psyker- and seen as a constant treat. "

The goal is to learn demonology and some heresy lore and make alot of rolls ... take some kid off the streets and work from there.

Sure, possession is something to be aware of- mostly because it'll be fun for my good luck to kick a one for resist possession- though c'mon- daemonhost! Sounds grand, don't it?

That's my plan.... Milova'll see this, I'm sure and I know he'll be interested in the constructive assistance which will hopefully stem from this long winded, mostly ego boosting post.

You, my dear damned, and incredibly insane psyker ... are an Oblationist. I can say this with conviction since the players in my 'about-to-start' game chose to go this route. So I have been researching the philosophy. You have already come to terms with the fact that you are damned. You have already determined to go ahead with your plans anyway. And you still hope to benefit the Empire of Man with your sacrifice. Yep! I am reasonably sure that I have you pegged. gui%C3%B1o.gif

Nutty as a fruit-cake. Useful, I'll grant you. But absolutely and irrevocably bent. gran_risa.gif

But all kinds of fun to roleplay, both as a player, and as a GM. demonio.gif

Kudos to you. aplauso.gif

And if you will ... share here your experiences in this. I would love to see how this progresses. happy.gif

You know, I've always wondered: Is Warhammer Fantasy Earth the past of 40K Earth, or is it a separate world entierly? I wouldn't mind either, but having it a separate world allows for some fun plot and RP chances, as characters try to bring the word of the GE to the planet, or a Trader tries to profit off the discovery.

Kylen said:

You know, I've always wondered: Is Warhammer Fantasy Earth the past of 40K Earth, or is it a separate world entierly? I wouldn't mind either, but having it a separate world allows for some fun plot and RP chances, as characters try to bring the word of the GE to the planet, or a Trader tries to profit off the discovery.

Terra in 40k is Earth as we know it; the Emperor's Palace is built upon foundations wrought from the Himalayas, vast hive cities dominate the ancient regions of Merica and Nordafrik, and the Emperor Himself was reputedly born in a village in Anatolia, the region of Earth that is dominated by Turkey today, in about 8,000BC. The Adeptus Mechanicus are based on nearby Mars, while the Ordo Malleus haves facilities on the moons of Saturn, including the Grey Knights Fortress-Monastery on Titan. 40k is presented as 'us', nearly forty thousand years from now.

The Warhammer World is, as far as I'm aware, officially a separate world setting from the 40k Universe; certain elements of their stories are similar, Chaos being the main one. Marijan von Staufer, who wrote the Liber Chaotica background books for Black Library, has mentioned that he views them as two distinct universes sat on opposite sides of the same Warp.

I must admit I do not understand a word of what you are talking about, surely the Warp must have taken your mind. Instead of pitfalls and abominations you see opportunity and hope, a sure sign that the powers of Chaos have damned your soul. All you can hope for is to see the light before the end.

The Emperor Protects the Righteous but you will receive no such protection.

Kaihlik, the Voice of a Puritan

Imperial Psykers are seen as constant threats for a variety of reasons. One of the greatest is that they will employ warpcraft. Using warpcraft because others fear you will really isn't a good justification for a sane person. However, your character sounds like she's already down in the loony bin, so no problems there gui%C3%B1o.gif .

However, it sounds like your character has become host for fairly great powers if they can influence everyone around her, including an Inquisitor. The only thing left might just be the Emperor's Mercy...


And to Sister Kat, I'd say that this individual really isn't quite Oblationist. They're more garden variety Xanthite. After all, Oblationists are driven by the limitless well of spite they develop over their necessary damnation. Xanthites feel that although dangerous, their methods can ultimately be used for good and not corrupt the user all that much

Kylen said:

You know, I've always wondered: Is Warhammer Fantasy Earth the past of 40K Earth, or is it a separate world entierly? I wouldn't mind either, but having it a separate world allows for some fun plot and RP chances, as characters try to bring the word of the GE to the planet, or a Trader tries to profit off the discovery.

you can view it as either a different world, or a different time, heck even a different reality if you want. as the warp it self spans across all time and space (which is why you can see the same demons in both genres) The orcs in the fantasy would be primitive orc tribes, then how ever you want to explain the undead (Vampire counts and Tomb Kings), The massive amount of non humans on the planet (so many xenos on the planet and they are all primitive versions of the xenos encountered in 40k).

Majeh said:

Kylen said:

You know, I've always wondered: Is Warhammer Fantasy Earth the past of 40K Earth, or is it a separate world entierly? I wouldn't mind either, but having it a separate world allows for some fun plot and RP chances, as characters try to bring the word of the GE to the planet, or a Trader tries to profit off the discovery.

you can view it as either a different world, or a different time, heck even a different reality if you want. as the warp it self spans across all time and space (which is why you can see the same demons in both genres) The orcs in the fantasy would be primitive orc tribes, then how ever you want to explain the undead (Vampire counts and Tomb Kings), The massive amount of non humans on the planet (so many xenos on the planet and they are all primitive versions of the xenos encountered in 40k).

To clarify, in the instance of my campaign. I treated Warhammer World, and the planetary system it is in, as being held in a pocket dimension created by the Old Ones as one of many attempts to appease the Necrons, and continued to be held by the Slann, their servants, after their death. The players were actually summoned by a "Space Slann" Mage priest (which exception to Graile who got "burped" there ten years prior via perils of the warp. It's in her fan fic on the other board.) who forsaw that they would be the only ones uniquely able to defeat a alien enemy (genestealer cult) which had also by chance found its way there.

The players found their way off the planet and out of the pocket dimension via an ancient dragon who pre-dated the Old One's coming, and had been slumbering awaiting the great apocalypse that would rid the lesser races and leaving it the cold environ they once lived in. The Mage Priest knew that the dragon would awaken due to a skaven attack on the manipulate terrestrial Lizardmen, and it would wish to spread its wings and solve its boredom. The dragon also knew the generalities of the Old Ones' plans and explained as much to the players. Two of which became so corrupted that they were ordered to be killed by their own inquisitor (both of which managed to escape to become arch-heretics in the future), leaving miss Graile, and dancer they picked up in Altdorf.

Admittedly, before I started their stint on Warhammer World I was just starting to explore Warhammer Fantasy and got carried away with bringing a crossover into the campaign. Even still, I thought the situation I came up with was rather inventive.

...as for my fiancee's psyker. Yes, she is a bit loopy, but seeing her entire ship slaughtered by Necrons from a newly awakened tomb, and being burped to a feudal world filled with unspeakable corruption when she attempted to bite off more of the warp cookie than she could chew, has left her unhinged. Oh, and she was tortured by Skaven pain-pain slugs as well, which didn't help. ^^

numb3rc said:

And to Sister Kat, I'd say that this individual really isn't quite Oblationist. They're more garden variety Xanthite. After all, Oblationists are driven by the limitless well of spite they develop over their necessary damnation. Xanthites feel that although dangerous, their methods can ultimately be used for good and not corrupt the user all that much

I humbly disagree, and here's why. She has already accepted that she is damned, and dead to Humanity. Yet she is still willing to use whatever time she has left to bring the pain to the Enemy, apparently in a rather spectacular fashion. Sounds Oblationist to me. gui%C3%B1o.gif Xanthites believe that they can control/master the forbidden methods they use.

N0-1_H3r3 said:

The Warhammer World is, as far as I'm aware, officially a separate world setting from the 40k Universe; certain elements of their stories are similar, Chaos being the main one. Marijan von Staufer, who wrote the Liber Chaotica background books for Black Library, has mentioned that he views them as two distinct universes sat on opposite sides of the same Warp.

Well, it's one of those things GW have changed their mind on in the past. It originally was a planet trapped behind warp-storms in the Eye of Terror, but it has since been said to be completely separate.

Basically, the relationship between the two is whatever you want it to be.

Sister Cat said:

I humbly disagree, and here's why. She has already accepted that she is damned, and dead to Humanity. Yet she is still willing to use whatever time she has left to bring the pain to the Enemy, apparently in a rather spectacular fashion. Sounds Oblationist to me. gui%C3%B1o.gif Xanthites believe that they can control/master the forbidden methods they use.

Admittedly, there's a case for both sides. She hasn't said the magic words "I am dead and therefore can sin no more" but she isn't quite as Xanthite as to say "I can totally control this stuff and remain pure." See, it sounds like she thinks she "can control/master forbidden methods," just her motivation seems a bit nearer to Oblationism. I'll admit, it's iffy.

numb3rc said:

Admittedly, there's a case for both sides. She hasn't said the magic words "I am dead and therefore can sin no more" but she isn't quite as Xanthite as to say "I can totally control this stuff and remain pure." See, it sounds like she thinks she "can control/master forbidden methods," just her motivation seems a bit nearer to Oblationism. I'll admit, it's iffy.

Okay, yes, having re-read the OP (no easy task, by the way gui%C3%B1o.gif), you do indeed have a point. It could go either way. After all, there is only a very fine line between the two. Either way, though, I hope she will keep us informed how things turn out with her character. Sounds like it could be epic material. happy.gif

So... the update as of far.

Due to the viewing of one Princess and the Frog (very worth your time)- and the introduction of one Dr. Faciliar- I was in a bit of shock when he made an appearance in the campaign. And by shocked I mean my head hit the table at a near alarming rate as I felt like something was in the air and it wasn't the Taco Bell belch from across the table.

As mentioned before I've been left for a while to stew and because the GM and I are engaged- he's been my bounce board. I think he kinda noticed I've hit a wall at a velocity that only suicidal pigeons would take. So again- he being the sneaky sneaky he is- I ended up getting exactly what I wanted. Without too much um- corruption just yet.

A train ride with my fellow warhammer buddy, Ezzy, ended with us in an Emporium and having our fortunes read. Yes. Seriously. Ezzay went first- her's was pretty.... meh. Then mind was "blah blah tainted... bad juju on your head...oh snap a blank card! you actually get to choose your future!" PLEASE keep in mind I'm paraphrasing because 1. I can't remember everything and 2. this is what Graile heard.

So after a pleasant fairytale by Dr Faciliar. One of treason, lost friends, odd reunions, and arguing demons. Graile and Ezzy end up taking him to Quilk. If you're not familiar with Milova's campaign, Quilk is a horned Skaven. Yes. Stupid, conniving, egotistical, pain-pain slug using, hunched back, flea ridden, waste of space skaven. As you can tell. I no likey.

Anyways. So we get to choose sides- I choose the easy route because I hear the words "Help me kill him and I'll teach you what you need to know to make your little plan happen." Well- I was sold. Ezzy destroyed the Vespid and I blasted a hole or two in the wall with my amaizing weapon- and then Quilk went down for the count! While directly respinsible for the massive hold in the center of the horned skaven, Graile was not the one to finish him off. But- if you ask her, she'll say it was.

So- easy route taken, I have a book of demonology.... and a book by Dr Faciliar himself (he made it a point to say so.)

Corruption and Sanity Pending. I may have a fighting chance to abduct my street urchin and make mineself a daemonhost... provided I don't grow a third eye on my hand and someone, who was around Quilk before he died, runs off and tattles on me to my inquisitor.