So this may not be a surprise, but it looks like Disney strikes again.
I was on http://www.starwars.com/ and it appears that what was once the Corellian CR90 corvette is now a Alderaan cruisers. with all references to Corellia removed. the write-up goes on to imply that there where a series of these built for Alderaan.
Now where Wookieepedia tries to claim this is just an also known as. the Starwars.com article seem to imply its the only name.
Edited by tenchi2aI hope they don't stick to it... Will upset a lot of fans. Not in a major way, but why change this anyhow?
It was originally called a rebel blockade runner. Then someone dreamed up CR90. Now this. I think the IP will survive.
Edited by 2P51Lucas Film called it a blockade runner. WEG came up with CR90 (as they did with most ship classes, new species, weapon models, et cetera). WEG pretty much fleshed out the Star Wars universe. Some of their contributions are still being used today, even by Disney after they killed off most of the Legends canon.
Edited by ShadoWarriorBefore it was the Rebel Blockade Runner it was a (rejected) design for the Millennium Falcon!
So it should actually be called millennium blockade rebel runner 90-falcon cruiser?
or Millennium Rebel Runner Falcon Cruiser Blockade 90?
In the grand scheme of things, this is pretty minor.
Nah, we need Pablo in here NOW! So he can decide what the full name of this starship type is. Imagine the confusion of future generations?!?!?!!?!
24 minutes ago, Wonder Lemming said:Before it was the Rebel Blockade Runner it was a (rejected) design for the Millennium Falcon!
More trivia: the YZ-775
is based on that original, rejected concept art:
I think I first saw the change in terminoligy on The Star Wars Show, I think it was their Rogue One Easter egg discussion. I don't know, seems a little odd for Alderaan to produce these warships, and to be honest I don't think the design really fits with the architecture we've seen from Alderaan.
If we really wanted to we could probably come up with some way of retconning the designation, but we all know what we mean when we say 'Blockade Runner', 'CR90' or now 'Alderaan Cruiser'.
It's far more likely that they are named "Alderaan Cruiser" not because they are built there but that Bail Organa owned many CEC-built corvette-sized vessels (including hammerheads). The Star Wars Rebels wiki still gives the primary designation as CR90, and still lists CEC as the builder, so I think that the old canon is safe. At least for now. Disney has had a nasty habit of tossing out old canon whenever they get a wild hair up their bum, so who knows what the future will bring.
1 hour ago, ShadoWarrior said:More trivia: the YZ-775
is based on that original, rejected concept art:
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Even more trivia: The very first models being made by ILM were held together with PVA or epoxy which took forever to dry.
When architectural engineer (and future head of the model making workshop) Lorne Peterson joined he brought with him with him substance that revolutionised the process... Superglue! Models that took days to make could now be done in hours!
I got to attend a talk and panel featuring both him and Ben Burtt (Lucasfilm sound designer responsible for all those iconic sounds like blasters, lightsabers, R2-D2, TIE Fighters, etc) at a local film festival last year.
Edited by Wonder LemmingWill to me it look like the power that be are trying to clean up the storyline to meet their new view.
The Rebels episode with princess Leia seems to point to the rebels "stealing" a lot of there ships from Alderaan , and in truth outside of the rebels we only see the CR90 in use by members of the Alderaan royal family.
So IMHO this seems like they are trying to imply that most of the support for the early rebel fleet came from Alderaan.
Most of the support for the early Rebel fleet did come from Alderaan. The worlds of the other two founding members of the Alliance (per Legends), Mon Mothma and Garm Bel Iblis (senators from Chandrila and Corellia, respectively), were unable to covertly supply the Rebels to the same degree because Imperial presence or scrutiny on those planets was greater than for Alderaan (as well as their internal planetary politics).
The databank there doesn't go in depth too much, several things in star wars have a technical name and nickname, sometimes rolled into one, a real world example would be something like the F-15E Strike Eagle fighter, technical: F-15E, nickname: Strike Eagle (even though both appear in the same place when you search the internet for it). I can see "Alderaan cruiser" being the latter, and Disney's attempt to make things more obvious, while possibly also trying to do something else at the same time, but what I don't know...
What Disney needs to do is release a few species and ship books to fill things back out and clear up some of this. It would have to include things like manufacturers and planets as well.
Well I am also not butthurt about it, it's just such a strange feeling seeing Disney pulling so much from old canon but some things which were perfectly fine get changed...
The sooner you decide to ignore Disney's revisions, the easier it will be.
Oh I actually like some of them, so I am accepting it. Some decisions just seem... off, for a lack of a better word.
7 hours ago, ShadoWarrior said:It's far more likely that they are named "Alderaan Cruiser" not because they are built there but that Bail Organa owned many CEC-built corvette-sized vessels (including hammerheads). The Star Wars Rebels wiki still gives the primary designation as CR90, and still lists CEC as the builder, so I think that the old canon is safe.
This was what first came to mind for me also. Easily explained by saying Corellia makes this line of ship for Alderaan who re-classifies them as "Alderaan Cruiser". There may even be a special model made for Alderaan that is slightly different then the baseline CR90 Corvette. Or perhaps the baseline, original Corellian Corvette is actually the "CR70" and other models have been made with new designators?
Looking for a realworld equivalent I looked at the old US made M113 armored personnel carrier. It has various names, some official, some not, when used by other countries. For example, Israel calls it the Bardelas (Cheetah) while South Vietnam calls it the Green Dragon.
Edited by Sturn3 hours ago, HappyDaze said:The sooner you decide to ignore Disney's revisions, the easier it will be.
Nah, the voong will stay dead forever in our game and so will the sun crusher
I never said I didn't ignore certain parts of the EU too (such as the ones you mentioned and TFU/Starkiller as a key to forming the Rebel Alliance).
40 minutes ago, HappyDaze said:I never said I didn't ignore certain parts of the EU too (such as the ones you mentioned and TFU/Starkiller as a key to forming the Rebel Alliance).
The thing is, if the whole group is watching the cartoons for example, the updated disney canon is easier to keep track off than the outdated EU from 20 years ago. Though the new canon eu seems to the same train wreck than the old dying one was, so I would totally without to straight ignore it ^_°
The databank has no references for CR90, Blockade Runner, or Corvette. The Alderaan Cruiser writeup stops short of saying they were produced on/over Alderaan (does Alderaan even have shipyards?), but why call it a Cruiser? I thought the Anaxes War College System was still canon.
I notice that the Venator is now called the "Republic Attack Cruiser." Wonder if we're going through a canon purge or something.
27 minutes ago, SFC Snuffy said:The databank has no references for CR90, Blockade Runner, or Corvette. The Alderaan Cruiser writeup stops short of saying they were produced on/over Alderaan (does Alderaan even have shipyards?), but why call it a Cruiser? I thought the Anaxes War College System was still canon.
that would depend on if the old canon is good: if it is then yes they have a ship yard if not who knows.
27 minutes ago, SFC Snuffy said:I notice that the Venator is now called the "Republic Attack Cruiser." Wonder if we're going through a canon purge or something.
In truth, in the TV series the name Venator is never used. The ship is always either called a Republic Cruiser or a Jedi Cruiser. so I'm not to surprised.