First Order Palp Aces

By TitaniumChopstick, in X-Wing Squad Lists

Omega Leader: Juke, Comm Relay (26)

Kylo Ren: Determination, FCS, Palp, Hyperwave Comm Scanner (46)

Delta: x7 (28)

Kylo will probably be targeted first in this list, so I wanted a ship who could reliably push those Palp crits through on anybody and OL can certainly do that! Delta can get focus+evade+target lock after Coordinate and can block pretty well if needed. Determination will definitely help in the Kylo mirror match because we definitely don't want an attack 4 gun getting Blinded! Hyper Wave Comm Scanner is there in case I want to deploy the shuttle before the Delta or if I just want to give Omega an evade so that she can barrel-roll in the early turns to bump if needed. What do you guys think? I think it could be pretty good in the current meta and will certainly be a lot of fun to play!

P.S. Just in case anybody decides they want to play this list, I've named it the "OLD Kylo Special". O and L for Omega Leader, with the D being for Delta.

Edited by TitaniumChopstick
Omega can also get a focus token reliably with Coordinate, so maybe that is a better use than giving the Delta a lock? Omega seems kind of ridiculous at 26 points if she is getting all that action economy every round, even after slooping or K-turning!

I see no reason to keep the shuttle this fat and Defender so naked? While Kylo's condition is cool i feel that simple Starkiller Base Pilot with FCS and Palp would be better here.

16 minutes ago, Vitalis said:

I see no reason to keep the shuttle this fat and Defender so naked? While Kylo's condition is cool i feel that simple Starkiller Base Pilot with FCS and Palp would be better here.

I dont know, the Delta gets the same action economy as Ryad or Vessery for much cheaper if the shuttle uses Coordinate and against a 2 ship build, Kylo's condition can shut down half of my opponents firepower which can drastically change a game in my favor. Its really not that hard to get a crit through on somebody with Omega either, so activating the condition shouldn't be a problem. Giving a ship like Dengar blinded pilot will let Omega shoot at him without fear of a double-tap, which makes Dengaroo an incredibly easy match connsidering Omega can also get a focus token from Coordinate until he decides to pop countermeasures. Against a ship like Corran Horn, there is no way he is shooting at my shuttle, knowing that he cant afford to take a crit from that condition. He will never hit Omega while she has a lock on him, leaving him with only the option to shoot my least important ship (the delta). It will definitely take some testing, but I think this list will do alright.

Edited by TitaniumChopstick

Cause PS1 for such important ship in a list...? I don't know man. At least i would get rid of scanners (they give you nothing) and determination to upgrade him to Onyx. But i still he is subpar to be an "ace".

18 minutes ago, Vitalis said:

Cause PS1 for such important ship in a list...? I don't know man. At least i would get rid of scanners (they give you nothing) and determination to upgrade him to Onyx. But i still he is subpar to be an "ace".

If I give everybody the PS 0 crit, he has the potential to move last lol! :P True though, PS 1 isnt really an "ace" so maybe I need to call it something else other than "palp ACES". A lot of ships like Miranda still dodge the higher PS defenders though, so I dont know that dropping my PS to 1 will be that much different from a regular defender. It really will only matter against a Ryad and vessery, in which case I have Omega who is higher and a superior shuttle.

Test (98)

"Echo" (35) - TIE Phantom
Veteran Instincts (1), Collision Detector (0), Advanced Cloaking Device (4)

"Omega Leader" (26) - TIE/FO Fighter
Juke (2), Comm Relay (3)

Starkiller Base Pilot (37) - Upsilon-class Shuttle
Fire Control System (2), General Hux (5)

56 minutes ago, TitaniumChopstick said:

If I give everybody the PS 0 crit, he has the potential to move last lol! :P True though, PS 1 isnt really an "ace" so maybe I need to call it something else other than "palp ACES". A lot of ships like Miranda still dodge the higher PS defenders though, so I dont know that dropping my PS to 1 will be that much different from a regular defender. It really will only matter against a Ryad and vessery, in which case I have Omega who is higher and a superior shuttle.

Point taken.

Maybe its just my personal "dunno" cause your points are valid. But i just feel that Omega gonna be focused first for sure. Then the shuttle while with epic guns and decent durability - will follow fast when focused. And then you are left with PS 1 no trick pony, defender for the end game.

My main concern is what to do with that last point I have remaining if I drop Hyperwave Comm Scanner. Its not super necessary, but it gives me a little bit more deployment flexibility. What else would be good for a single point?

Didn't want to make a whole new thread for it, but grateful for thoughts? I've seen how well a single forcing of a Dice reroll can be and really want to try elusiveness. I can just K to get rid of the stress.

Upsilon-class Shuttle: Starkiller Base Pilot (30)
Collision Detector (0)
· Emperor Palpatine (8)
Pattern Analyzer (2)


TIE Defender: · Countess Ryad (34)
Elusiveness (2)
TIE/x7 (-2)


TIE/fo Fighter: · "Omega Leader" (21)
Juke (2)
Comm Relay (3)
-- TOTAL ------- 100p. --

Edited by Goseki1
4 hours ago, Goseki1 said:

Didn't want to make a whole new thread for it, but grateful for thoughts? I've seen how well a single forcing of a Dice reroll can be and really want to try elusiveness. I can just K to get rid of the stress.

Upsilon-class Shuttle: Starkiller Base Pilot (30)
Collision Detector (0)
· Emperor Palpatine (8)
Pattern Analyzer (2)


TIE Defender: · Countess Ryad (34)
Elusiveness (2)
TIE/x7 (-2)


TIE/fo Fighter: · "Omega Leader" (21)
Juke (2)
Comm Relay (3)
-- TOTAL ------- 100p. --

Seems pretty similar to mine. I wish the shuttle was Kylo, but maybe the generic guy will do alright. Ive never been a huge fan of elusiveness, Just because there are great other options to choose from like Juke, Crack Shot, PTL and so on. Other than that, it looks like a pretty standard palp aces, with Omega instead of Vessery and the new shuttle instead of the old one with the points you save.

Soooooo... Looks like I won't be able to get the Batmobile until next week unfortunately... Could some generous fellow forum user test my list and tell me how it goes?