Just got myself a Striker and along with fancying breaking Whisper back out I've got this in mind..

TIE Phantom: · "Whisper" (32)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Fire Control System (2)
Advanced Cloaking Device (4)
TIE Avanced Prototype: · The Inquisitor (25)
Push The Limit (3)
Autothrusters (2)
TIE/v1 (1)
TIE Striker: · "Pure Sabacc" (22)
Lightweight Frame (2)
Adaptive ailerons (0)
-- TOTAL ------- 94p. --

6pts to play with.

I like Protons on inquisitor for 97 but not 100% on that. I think that extra bite will be nice though and I've seen plenty of people surprised by Inquisitor actually being range one rather than his usual pseudo range.

Real quandary with Sabacc though. Limited points and PS6 means Vi or crack shot are tempting but I also like the idea of Lone Wolf on him. I usually do ok at keeping it triggered. Would leave me on 98 or 99 with LW. Not sure I'm comfortable with only a 1pt bid when Whisper is in the list though.

I'd describe environment as semi competitive. We all hammer 100pt tourny style and have decent players playing decent lists but our meta is quite isolated so while we have Palp, Defenders and Miranda everywhere and Ghosts popping up a fair bit, Dengaroo is non existent.

How would peole tweak without going a million miles from the foundation?

I am ace player. Since i bought FA core set and decide to play imperial army.

for me:

1. Echo dance better than whisper. Look- echo can decloak into 6other places before move. To do it in best way add Colision detector so you are able to dexloak through obstacle or ship. He should shoot first and def. With 4dice so r. Specjalist is made for him to get two focus. One for shoot one to defend attack.

echo 30 + VI + Colision detector + r.specjalist + ACD = 38total

ok, what now? Add to him another ace who can be a threat from range3.

Typical inquisitor 25+autothrusters+title+PTL=31 (total 69 and its a good number hehe)

now we need perfect single killer;

omega leader 21+juke + comm relay (combo) and we can add stealth device. So our OL has 2 attack with juke no modify 4 dice and evade and 4 life.

98pts and 2 for bid. (You can also add lambda+palpatine instead of OL but i love 3ace and OL is harder to kill

I like lone wolf on Sabacc, just play him insanely defensively (think of him as imperial Biggs that doesn't require him to fly in formation with the others). With the last 4 points I would like to add a crew to Whisper. My top choices would be either Agent Kallus (if you have it) for a free mini focus against one ship and a two point initiative, rebel captive to stress ships that shoot you (but only a one point initiative bid), or tactician for a weaker stress effect, but a two point initiative bid.

Too much PS8 to run Echo without a substantial bid and I specifically want to run the Striker so no OL.

Kallus was always.my go to crew for Whisper but like I say had been leaning towards the prockets. Being able to LW Sabacc and keep a better bid does sound like a solid idea though.

Leaves the list looking like;

TIE Phantom: · "Whisper" (32)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Fire Control System (2)
Advanced Cloaking Device (4)
· Agent Kallus (2)
TIE Striker: · "Pure Sabacc" (22)
· Lone Wolf (2)
Lightweight Frame (2)
Adaptive ailerons (0)
TIE Avanced Prototype: · The Inquisitor (25)
Push The Limit (3)
Autothrusters (2)
TIE/v1 (1)
-- TOTAL ------- 98p. --

Cheapest ship is easiest to deal with so could make for great bait and switch with ailerons. If they go after one of the other ships, both Whisper and Inquisitor are capable of going evasive and Sabacc is more than capable of punishing them for not dealing with him.

With FCS on the Phantom, LW on Striker and the title on the Adv. prototype backing up a healthy pool of red die,offense should be fairly reliable. I'm not sure it has the defensive power to stand up to the Top Tier lists but I reckon it does have enough game against them to still be fun.

Looks pretty good as is now I think?

So finally gave this a couple of games. I've hardly played last couple months sadly.

Local meta seems ok matchup wise. Lots of beef like Miranda and ARC's. Not many Defenders anymore and no Parrattani as I am the group's 'main' scum player. Zuckuss is a 4 letter word here!

So settled on:

TIE Striker: · "Pure Sabacc" (22)
Predator (3)
Lightweight Frame (2)
Adaptive ailerons (0)
TIE Avanced Prototype: · The Inquisitor (25)
Push The Limit (3)
Autothrusters (2)
TIE/v1 (1)
TIE Phantom: · "Whisper" (32)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Fire Control System (2)
Advanced Cloaking Device (4)
· Agent Kallus (2)
-- TOTAL ------- 99/100p. --

Couldn't bring myself to lose Kallus in the end and I'm so rusty didnt fancy LW. Figured Sabacc was going to be a target so may aswell make that extra die reliable while it's there. Hence Predator. Lose the defensive boost but always have the offense regardless of positioning.

I think losing LW was the right call as I tended to want Sabacc right in the mix and also tended to deploy more centrally of the 3 ships.

Standard trip ace approach of spreading out and collapsing in on a target when they commit to a direction while the threatened ace gets the hell out of needed. If the commit to Sabacc, rather than run I'd go for block to minimise incoming shots.

Strikers are great blockers I'm finding, they can really shift and get to some surprising spots. 1 bank 3 bank.. surprise! Got good mileage from that. Especially against Miranda. Being able to stop her from a slam out of a trap was great.

Whisper and Inquisitor just do their thing. Couple times I missed having Prockets but I think it was a worth while sacrifice.

Still not sure it's optimal for the chosen 3 ships though.

Oh and also considering switching Inquisitor for an x7 but TLT's are fairly common so AT / diving for the bubble are good options to have too so I'm undecided.

I'm a huge fan of Kylo Ren on Whisper (many good choices... I just prefer Kylo).

On Sabbac I'd likely go VI, but Predetor or LW is solid.

IF you have a spare point, and don't want extra bid consider tracers. Having the option to get TL's on all three ships (with extra evade for Inquisitor - potentially followed by a PTL in the combat phase to arc-dodge) can sometimes be more useful than trying to do a point of damage.

I'm just a chicken with Whisper. I like to evade as her action, rely on the Kallus mini focus and FCS to get the hits and then have focus evade for defence.

Hadn't considered Kylo as I don't have the RenBat until next pay day. I will have to give that some thought.

i like your current list, i feel it is rather solid, ideally getting better to the point you can consistantly run LW would be best but i dont think it is very realistic when flying a phantom, you typicallly want as much freedom with the phantom as possible to make yourself not seem so predictable, and decloak blocks are the best XD!

I have tended to do well with LW but lack of table time is telling. I'm a millimeter wrong rather than a millimeter right if you know what I mean.

I'm now randomly wondering about Countdown I stead of Sabacc as he is so much harder to kill, but I think having the Striker be a tempting target and almost treating it as disposable is good to keep the heat of the proper aces.

I think your list is fine, but proton rockets on inquisitor are a good idea.

I would drop LWF off Sabaac, since its not great to begin with. I think you will find prockets do more for you than LWF.

Of course, that will leave you at 100 pts, but in my experience, 99 is inadequate for a bid against other PS 9 opponents. If you really want that bid back though, you can get it by dropping predator down to lone wolf or even VI

I think I agree that Lightweight frame might not be worth it. Remember that it's not an auto include even if it came with the ship. It might be better to drop it for a bid.