How would you handle a situation where two characters are using Move to fight over a lightsaber, each trying to pull it towards them?

Competitive Discipline check, whoever rolls better pulls in the saber.

Why did my mind think of 2 character pulling some hapless npc and them being ripped in half...

10 minutes ago, GroggyGolem said:

Competitive Discipline check, whoever rolls better pulls in the saber.

I was thinking this, but don't you think FR should come into it? I think of Discipline as "how skilled you are with using the Force" and FR as "how strong you are in the Force," and this feels more like a contest of brute strength than skill.

Just add Force pips as Success. It's not an indiscriminate tug-of-war...it's trying to pull a small object into your hand while someone is actively working against you. So there's a measure of skill involved.

50 minutes ago, DaverWattra said:

I was thinking this, but don't you think FR should come into it? I think of Discipline as "how skilled you are with using the Force" and FR as "how strong you are in the Force," and this feels more like a contest of brute strength than skill.

Being stronger doesn't mean an automatic victory. Case in point, Kylo Ren vs. Rey in their attempts to snag Anakin's lightsaber in TFA. Rey had just discovered her Force-sensitivity (FR1) while Kylo had prior training and experience (FR2), yet Rey was the one to claim the lightsaber.

48 minutes ago, awayputurwpn said:

Just add Force pips as Success. It's not an indiscriminate tug-of-war...it's trying to pull a small object into your hand while someone is actively working against you. So there's a measure of skill involved.

This sounds right to me. Good!

When two people play tug of war with an object using move The instigator makes A move check followed by a Discipline check with the difficulty being the opposing force user's Discipline.

This is all in the rules of course.

4 minutes ago, Decorus said:

When two people play tug of war with an object using move The instigator makes A move check followed by a Discipline check with the difficulty being the opposing force user's Discipline.

This is all in the rules of course.

Oh cool... got a page number? (I looked for this earlier and couldn't find it, hence the OP.)

5 hours ago, Donovan Morningfire said:

Being stronger doesn't mean an automatic victory. Case in point, Kylo Ren vs. Rey in their attempts to snag Anakin's lightsaber in TFA. Rey had just discovered her Force-sensitivity (FR1) while Kylo had prior training and experience (FR2), yet Rey was the one to claim the lightsaber.

It just occurred to me when discussing Kylo in another topic: he's clearly at least FR3, since he uses the Force to stop a blaster bolt (aka Protect).

53 minutes ago, DaverWattra said:

It just occurred to me when discussing Kylo in another topic: he's clearly at least FR3, since he uses the Force to stop a blaster bolt (aka Protect).

It's very likely that narratively, Poe just missed the attack & Kylo spent a number of Threat/1 Despair to freeze the blaster bolt in addition to using Bind to restrain Poe on his turn. Now Kylo likely does have FR3 for the Duration update to Bind but he definitely doesn't have Protect/Unleash.

Just now, GroggyGolem said:

It's very likely that narratively, Poe just missed the attack & Kylo spent a number of Threat/1 Despair to freeze the blaster bolt in addition to using Bind to restrain Poe on his turn. Now Kylo likely does have FR3 for the Duration update to Bind but he definitely doesn't have Protect/Unleash.

I like this interpretation. It's just using Kylo Ren's affinity for Bind to influence the narrative rather than using Bind as the mechanical reason why it was frozen.

18 minutes ago, ghatt said:

I like this interpretation. It's just using Kylo Ren's affinity for Bind to influence the narrative rather than using Bind as the mechanical reason why it was frozen.

Other options: Triumph on Kylo's Bind check or a Destiny Point flip. By the end of the scene, it did nothing meaningful but look cool & intimidate an already freaked out Finn.

I think it's pretty clearly implied that Kylo's power displayed in that scene is not a fluke, but something he can do whenever he wants. The scene is one of those "establish for the record how powerful this Force user is" scenes.

Destiny Points are available every session.

2 hours ago, GroggyGolem said:

It's very likely that narratively, Poe just missed the attack & Kylo spent a number of Threat/1 Despair to freeze the blaster bolt in addition to using Bind to restrain Poe on his turn. Now Kylo likely does have FR3 for the Duration update to Bind but he definitely doesn't have Protect/Unleash.

2 hours ago, ghatt said:

I like this interpretation. It's just using Kylo Ren's affinity for Bind to influence the narrative rather than using Bind as the mechanical reason why it was frozen.

It could be Kylo using a Despair on Poe's failed attack roll to Upgrade his upcoming Coercion check... which he failed of course, so something like:

Poe attacks and misses with a Despair. Kylo spends the Despair to upgrade his next Coercion check

Kylo Binds Poe successfully, activating the basic power, the strain causing Control upgrade, probably the Strength upgrade and committing 3 dice to maintain it.

Poe can't move or draw another weapon so chooses to try a Deception check.

Kylo Coerces and fails. So orders his troops to take Poe prisoner, uncommitting the Force Dice and the GM decides to add some flair by describing the release of the Blaster Bolt.

Im sure an already active Protect power which reduced the damage to zero also works, but I like the way the above description requires less foresight on Kylos part.

Yeah, there's a lot of ways to play out Kylo's trick of stopping a blaster bolt in mid-air that don't require him to be using the Protect power, or really even the Duration upgrade for Bind, since that scene very quickly falls into unstructured time and the whole conversation between Kylo and Poe could be viewed as a single exchange (Kylo rolling Coercion, Poe being allowed to resist with Cool instead of Discipline) rather than several rolls.

54 minutes ago, Donovan Morningfire said:

Yeah, there's a lot of ways to play out Kylo's trick of stopping a blaster bolt in mid-air that don't require him to be using the Protect power, or really even the Duration upgrade for Bind, since that scene very quickly falls into unstructured time and the whole conversation between Kylo and Poe could be viewed as a single exchange (Kylo rolling Coercion, Poe being allowed to resist with Cool instead of Discipline) rather than several rolls.

I love it that, when you get a scene from the movie and ask "Can it be done with the rules?" there are always like half a dozen ideas of how it could have been done, each of them valid and each of them giving an example of players having a fun time at the gaming table.